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Somehow, someway, EG has got the spirit of MLP nailed down far better than FiM does nowadays.
Earlier seasons kept things really simple:
>Mane 6 + Spike
>CMCs stuff sometimes
And that’s what we liked. We enjoy seeing the Mane 6 interact, the show is called FRIENDSHIP is magic
Obviously, their chemistry is the main draw. But now later seasons have so much f*cking cast bloat, that chemistry gets diluted (not to mention several writing issues, change of tone, etc.). The gimmicks they keep throwing in to try and make things feel fresh certainly doesn’t help, like the Friendship school.
EG though, keeps things simple, probably due to limitation.
>Humane 7
>Side characters sometimes
That’s it. We are getting pure unadulterated friendship out of EG. Sure they have a gimmick in the form of their powers but all that really does is give them something to do together. That’s why the AJ + Rarity special was really good. It was a full length story exploring their relationship with a bad guy thrown in to spice things up.
FiM just doesn’t do that sort of thing anymore which is really sad.
Hell, FiM never featured any of the mane 5 in 2-parters, period…
Mane 6 also seem a lot bitchier to each other this season. And dumber. You’ve got Applejack telling Twilight to be honest with Celestia three times and Twilight’s like “nuh-uh”. She’s the element of honesty, Twilight, she knows her shit.
Or how even Pinkie remarks that it’s a bad idea for RD and AJ to do a field trip with the new students when they are so obviously clashing. But Twilight again is like “nuh uh”.
And for some reason what really sticks out to me is how often characters roll their eyes. You seem to have it one time minimum per episode, and nothing says “I’m so sick of your shit” like a good eye roll. But then they let everything play out according to script anyway so they can have a forced friendship lesson at the end. It just doesn’t feel organic or endearing any more.
Equestria Girls, however… still has that spark and does it way better imo.
Earlier seasons kept things really simple:
>Mane 6 + Spike
>CMCs stuff sometimes
And that’s what we liked. We enjoy seeing the Mane 6 interact, the show is called FRIENDSHIP is magic
Obviously, their chemistry is the main draw. But now later seasons have so much f*cking cast bloat, that chemistry gets diluted (not to mention several writing issues, change of tone, etc.). The gimmicks they keep throwing in to try and make things feel fresh certainly doesn’t help, like the Friendship school.
EG though, keeps things simple, probably due to limitation.
>Humane 7
>Side characters sometimes
That’s it. We are getting pure unadulterated friendship out of EG. Sure they have a gimmick in the form of their powers but all that really does is give them something to do together. That’s why the AJ + Rarity special was really good. It was a full length story exploring their relationship with a bad guy thrown in to spice things up.
FiM just doesn’t do that sort of thing anymore which is really sad.
Hell, FiM never featured any of the mane 5 in 2-parters, period…
Mane 6 also seem a lot bitchier to each other this season. And dumber. You’ve got Applejack telling Twilight to be honest with Celestia three times and Twilight’s like “nuh-uh”. She’s the element of honesty, Twilight, she knows her shit.
Or how even Pinkie remarks that it’s a bad idea for RD and AJ to do a field trip with the new students when they are so obviously clashing. But Twilight again is like “nuh uh”.
And for some reason what really sticks out to me is how often characters roll their eyes. You seem to have it one time minimum per episode, and nothing says “I’m so sick of your shit” like a good eye roll. But then they let everything play out according to script anyway so they can have a forced friendship lesson at the end. It just doesn’t feel organic or endearing any more.
Equestria Girls, however… still has that spark and does it way better imo.
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Disagree
*sigh* yes, yes there is. 😒
¡quiero hacer mi show!
pfft. sure.
Now THAT .. is the truth
>Unsubscribing from this ridiculous conversation before it gets stupid.
to late.
They aren’t one-dimensional at all. Just because they aren’t exactly the same as their pony counterparts (living in a different universe tends to do that) doesn’t make them Flanderized versions of the Mane 6.
Fluttershy, for example, is actually more likely to find her inner strength as a human because, unlike the perpetually isolated pony Fluttershy, she’s forced to deal with others every single day.
And Twilight (SciTwi) is more socially awkward and shy compared to pony Twilight, again because of the different circumstances of their lives.
The characters are similar, but not identical. If that, to you, makes them one-dimensional, then you are choosing to blind yourself because you prefer to watch ponies over humans.
Stop using these old, tired excuses for justifying why you don’t like looking at humans because it makes you look petty. Particularly since you admit that your animosity towards EG is driven in large part by your perception that FiM has suffered for it.
The writers are offered scripts to write. New writers are writing for FiM because new ideas are required after so many years. The veterans are applying their more polished and experienced writing to EG because EG is still developing in ways FiM already has. Resent it all you want, FiM is getting very close to being 8 years old now and is approaching it’s 9th season. It’s hard to keep things dynamic for that long. In 5 years, EG has generated a fraction of the content of FiM. Four 90 minute films, three 22 minute specials, two 45 minute specials and a few episodes worth of shorts is barely more content than season 1. Please stop complaining. Nobody is forcing you to like EG, nobody is forcing you to watch it, and you don’t have to agree that the content is currently better. Block the Equestria Girls tag if you feel so strongly. Nobody cares that you don’t like it. Honest.
Unsubscribing from this ridiculous conversation before it gets stupid.
I mean it. the EqG characters are boring as hell; the FIM cast are more fun to watch because their personalities are more dynamic.
it wouldn’t be as good if everyone in FIM only had their number one trait defining them as a whole. you know what that’s called? Flanderization.
So you’re saying Equestria Girls is not part of the My little Pony Franchise Because Humans
OH MY GOD WHY DOES EVERY G4 FAN WHO RAGS ON EQG FOR THIS REASON FORGOT THAT HUMANS HAVE EXISTED IN THIS FRANCHISE LONG BEFORE FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC WAS EVEN A THING SO GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT “Equestria Girls is just My Little Pony in name only” bs
also all the Characters in Equestria Girls are versions of Characters we already know so there recognizable faces equestrian magic plays a large part in the story lines and Sunset Shimmer is from equestria so has little to do with pony my butt.
@DiscipleOfAndrewRyan
So consistent character development is a bad thing know.
consistent character development = bland = you’re logic = X
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@Group935Pony
Equestria Girls is just My Little Pony in name only; very little of it involves actual ponies.
@Tavi959
I wish you were joking on that last one.
Season 1 is perhaps not looked at with a critical eye often enough. It was good, but I feel like it’s been out-shined by nearly everything that came after, and personally, if I were ranking seasons by overall quality, I’d feel fine in putting Season 1 towards the bottom.
That said, for me Season 3 would be at the bottom. I did like it, and in my opinion there’s never been a bad season of the show yet, but it had a lot of great and fun ideas that sadly fell on their faces by episode’s end. Of course, I’m not ranking Season 8 until it concludes, and it’s not looking good so far. It still has seven episodes to go, so we’ll see, it’s not over yet.
I think we’re mostly on the same page. :D
I would definitely say that season 1 is overhyped. People look at it through rose-colored glasses because it was when the show was still new and exciting.
If you look at it in direct comparison with other seasons, without the glasses, it’s very average. Almost boring, even. Season 2 really upped the game and set a standard that other seasons are measured by…and season 1 is never put to that test. Season 3 was good as well. Season 4 wasn’t so good. Seasons 5-7 were good overall, if a bit hit and miss on a per-episode basis.
All things considered, FiM has a pretty good track record if you ignore the people who insist it’s been ruined since some event or another happened. I just find that EG has been more consistently good, not that it’s necessarily better.
Season 3 got a lot of hate when it was new (Faust wasn’t working on the show anymore, Derpygate happened, Twilight’s alicorn drama happened, among other things).
But when Season 4 came out, I think people started forgetting the flaws from seasons 1 to 3 because Season 4’s flaws were more recent as well as a bit more obvious since a lot of MLP reviewers did put Season 4’s problems to light.
Also I think the brony fad was starting to die around then so that could have been another thing at play too. Just my guesses.
Funny, because I can distinctly remember a lot of people hating S3 back in the day. I’m an outlier because I to-this-day consider S2 to be both the weakest and the worst season of the show.
I honestly found episodes I liked and disliked from each season.
I also find season 1 to be a bit overhyped. Because season 1 was “educational” there were times where it would feel like the show would just stop to teach the audience something even if it felt out of place (e.g. the lesson on hibernation in Winter Wrap Up), the CMC were probably at their most obnoxious, they completely ignored Luna throughout the entire season even though I think it would have been interesting if they did things with her then, and it felt that Twilight was shoehorned every episode even when she wasn’t learning the episode’s lesson or really needed in the plot just so she could write the lesson at the end of the episode. I also felt a lot of episodes in season 1 were rather average (not bad, not good, just average).
I’ve never known how to do that.
Don’t mind me just fixing you’re broken link
I was quoting this. https://youtu.be/Vt0U9jgTKd4?t=7m48s
Agreed.
Yeah, a lot of EQG stuff has little to do with the school itself and more about the friendsship the characters have with each other alongside using magic/super powers to fight magical villains. It’s like a magical girl anime, except made in the west (a lot of the characters in those type of anime tend to be around that age too but a lot of those shows have little to no focus on teenage school drama). There’s also cute slice of life moments like FiM. Also quite a bit of the shorts take place in locations outside of the school too.
@Havock
Yes. Yes it is.
@CompletelyBatty
@Ihhh
I agree with Ihhh. To me, FiM has honestly felt less and less like a magical girl anime the older it gets (not a bad thing by any means by the way, just me thinking thinking that it doesn’t feel the same as that genre all too much).
A majority of the episodes in the series are cute and/or comedic slice of life episodes. And I’m not complaining about this either. I think I may be in the minority on this (since I’ve seen so many people wish FiM was a full blown adventure series and want less slice of life episodes), but I think a lot of the shows weaker episodes are the adventure episodes. Funny enough those episodes at the same time seem to get a lot of complaints due to a lot of them introducing new characters and/or gimmicks that feel like they were just tacked on the sell toys as well as doing controversial things with their villains (like not giving Sombra much of a personality or even much lines or botching some of the villain redemptions by having them be redeemed far too quickly).
@Background Pony #98AE
Yes, yes we are all humans but you’d be surprised how many humans just hate seeing humans in fiction and/or hate humanity in general. (Or maybe you wouldn’t be.)
I’ve seen people go “ew humans” in not only this fanbase but in the furry community and in fandoms heavily focused on robots (e.g. Transformers).
I don’t understand this mindset either to be honest with you.
@Tavi959
I think that latter complaint is one thing I do miss about the earlier episodes that I wish stuck in the latter seasons. I don’t mind them acting like humans once in a while (especially in cases where they need to pick up things). But the doing humanoid poses while on their hind legs looks so off to me and I think it’s been happening a bit too often.
@TheMultiBrony21
Agreed completely.
@Tavi959
I’m sorry but that’s like saying Bugs Bunny and Judy Hopps are only cute because they’re upright like people and act like people. And then saying rabbits aren’t cute.
But then again, I think ponies (and even big massive horses) are cute. All subjective really.