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Seriously, this is how some of you ni**as act.

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Alphamon_Ouryuken
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@Ebalosus  
I think this quote fits as a good counterargument:
 
@Cirrus Light  
Well, sorry I never really finished this, that’s pretty much all I was inspired for, anyways. Maybe someday I’ll come back and finish it, but probably not, I need to start focusing on writing my stories, and learning my physics more. Jeez that’s sad to type out and say I’ll never finish this…
But anyways, here’s something I’ve been keeping open in a tab to put as the endnote:
And I read something, given the internet being what it is, the more emotionally touching a story the less likely it is to be true, heh, but, maybe it really is, could very well be.
But one line really stood out to me, thinking of all this, and how much people hold on to hate and just won’t allow a character to move on from their past and forgive them.
Some folks told me that writing my own obituary was morbid, but I think it is great because I get a chance to say “thank you” to all the people who helped me along the way. Those that loved me, assisted me, cared for me, laughed with me, and taught me things so that I could have a wonderful, happy life. I was blessed beyond measure by knowing all of you. That is what made my life worthwhile.
If you think of me, and would like to do something in honor of my memory, do this:
Volunteer at a school, church, or library.
Write a letter to someone and tell them how they have had a positive impact on your life.
If you smoke - quit.
If you drink and drive - stop.
Turn off the electronics and take a kid out for ice cream and talk to them about their hopes and dreams.
Forgive someone who doesn’t deserve it.
Stop at all lemonade stands run by kids and brag about their product.
Make someone smile today if it is in your power to do so.
(emphasis added)
I think all anyone really needs to deserve forgiveness, is an honest and continuing effort to improve. And truth be told, all that Glimmer did, say what you will, there’s really very little harm done.
It maybe feels a bit inappropriate to quote someone’s obituary over a fictional character, but unwillingness to forgive someone who’s sincerely trying to improve is a dangerous thing in the real world, and is about more than fictional stories or characters. Hate only begets more hate. It’s one thing to stop someone from doing something terrible, but when they’ve stopped, and are clearly no longer a threat, I scarcely see how most peoples concept of “justice” is really any different from “revenge”, which only extends suffering.
Ebalosus
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@darknessRising24
 
It isn’t hypocritical because I was referring to villains that continue to do villainous things while the protagonist is A-OK with it now for some [100% of the time BS] reason. I used TIM as a perfect example of this, since he does all the villainous things that Cerberus always does, but now Shepard et al will go along with it because the writers are fucking retards whom ruined a series with great potential the narrative makes hokey excuses for it. Discord’s reform is organic and makes sense for his character, and there is weight to what he does since the protagonists are understandably weary of the god of chaos maybe pulling a fast one on them…like he did in the S4 finale. TIM and Cerberus’ ““reform”” was…well, there was no reform, only narrative sleight-of-hand and ex-post-facto ‘justifications’ like “that was just a rogue cell” to try and get the protagonists on their side. Egregiously, it works.
 
Don’t you just love it when ‘auteurs’ making ‘art’ don’t hold the audience’s intelligence in as high a regard as people making glorified toy commercials?
Alphamon_Ouryuken
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@darknessRising24
You’re still going on this crap. Now that’s pathetic. And I’m going to call you that, because that’s what it is. That you’re still going with this crap after all this time.
 
Same can said for you, what with your non-stop hate-boner for Starlight.
 
What makes Discord different is that he actually learned something from when he was a villain. Because Tirek was the first time he was betrayed, because we have no other evidence to the contrary. But the same can’t be said about Starlight.
 
And yet even after that he went out of his way to troll/mess with the mane six, knowing he’d get away with it, “What about Discord” and “Make New Friends But Keep Discord” are prime examples of that.
 
A villain that relapses once and learns from their mistakes is better than one that tends to relapse at the drop of a hat and would gladly do it again as long as they don’t get caught.
 
But I’m not going to waste my time with some fanatic like you. You’re just going to continue and continue going
STARLIGHT IS BEST PONY! YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME!!! OR IT’S OFF TO THE CAMPS WITH YOU!
 
It’s adorable how you just throw word into my mouth just to pretend you’re right.
 
All I’ve been doing is pointing out how Starlight isn’t as bad as everyone makes her out to be, you on the other hand just want to focus on everything negative about her.
 
BTW, Rainbow Dash is best pony.
 
Because that’s pretty much what you’re doing at this point. And the fact that it’s been nearly a month since I commented here, it does nothing to help your “cause”.
And it’s really hilarious how you’ve told me before that I only point out Starlight’s flaws, when you barely mention them at all, if at all in a passing comment of “Here it is” as you run right past it.
But have a nice time being a opinionated little crybaby. You’re just bitching because not everyone agrees with you and your opinion, especially about your beloved Starlight Glimmer.
 
Dude.
 
Stop talking to that mirror and listen:
 
There’s a crucial difference between hating some thing and hating something while acknowledging it’s positive attributes. I like Flash Sentry yet can acknowledge that he could use more development than what he’s gotten in the for movies. I dislike the Mysterious Mare Do Well episode but I can acknowledge that both parties are in the wrong, the mane five for not bothering to talk to RD, and RD herself for letting his ego get in the way of saving ponies. I dislike BlueBlood yet I can think of ways to make him better than just a one-note pretty boy spoiled brat. I like Glimmer but I can acknowledge that her reformation would have been a little stronger if she went through all the alternate futures with Twilight instead of just one.
 
I’m not pretending that she wasn’t a Villain at one point, if that was the case that I would have simply said that she did nothing wrong.
 
You on the other hand? You immediately start throwing out every problem with her under the sun and not a single suggestion on how to make her better in any way. Any positive points given to her are quickly dismissed you because you can’t stand the idea of her having any likeable qualities or acknowledge the development she’s had since then.
 
All you’re doing is basically going out of your way to be negative about the entire situation and pretending that their opinion is all that matters, even when the facts are starting you right in the face. All for the sake of getting in the last word, just like a troll.
 
See this guy?  
full  
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You need to stop being this guy.
 
If you don’t like hearing your arguments get the deconstructed and maybe you shouldn’t have commented in the first place.
 
And if I’m wrong? PROVE IT:
 
Name ONE POSITIVE THING you said about her since this argument started.
 
Bring up ONE positive attribute about her.
 
Suggest a way to make her a better character than what she currently is if you hate how she’s improved so far.
 
There, I’ve laid out three options for you, so I suggest you swallow your pride and put your effort into something other than just hating her.
 
If not? Well congratulations, you basically proved me right.
Alexlayer
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@chubbyninja89  
Now, now, let’s please calm down. I’m probably one of the most critical ones around here about Starlight, but this ain’t the way to act. You’re throwing out a lot of names and just being plain rude. If you can’t see eye to eye with someone, just agree to disagree and let it go. No need for insults.
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@darknessRising24  
You’re still going on this crap. Now that’s pathetic. And I’m going to call you that, because that’s what it is. That you’re still going with this crap after all this time.
 
What makes Discord different is that he actually learned something from when he was a villain. Because Tirek was the first time he was betrayed, because we have no other evidence to the contrary. But the same can’t be said about Starlight.
 
But I’m not going to waste my time with some fanatic like you. You’re just going to continue and continue going
 
STARLIGHT IS BEST PONY! YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME!!! OR IT’S OFF TO THE CAMPS WITH YOU!
 
Because that’s pretty much what you’re doing at this point. And the fact that it’s been nearly a month since I commented here, it does nothing to help your “cause”.
 
And it’s really hilarious how you’ve told me before that I only point out Starlight’s flaws, when you barely mention them at all, if at all in a passing comment of “Here it is” as you run right past it.
 
But have a nice time being a opinionated little crybaby. You’re just bitching because not everyone agrees with you and your opinion, especially about your beloved Starlight Glimmer.
chubbyninja89
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@Alexlayer  
Good point.
 
Though I think it would’ve been better if Sunset was brought into the show and would’ve been the one who reformed Starlight. It would’ve meant more, from a pony who had been there.
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@chubbyninja89  
Probably because of the impact she left as a villain. Kinda funny in that regard, that for as much as Sunset and Starlight are compared (and I’m guilty of this myself), they’re total opposites in this regard. Sunset made a terrible villain, but a pretty good protagonist and hero. Starlight made a much better villain, but her performance as a protagonist/hero has been quite debatable so far.
chubbyninja89
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@Alexlayer  
You make a fairly good point.
 
I myself don’t really mind Starlight that much, just her taking over the focus of the show. And I can’t get past the feeling I have that she might still be a villain somehow.
Alexlayer
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@chubbyninja89  
Geez, seriously? Like, have you seen some of the posts I’ve been posting around lately?
 
I don’t like Starlight’s addition, and I’m definitely not a fan of how much prominence she’s taking lately, let alone that she’s likely gonna mess up “A Royal Problem” - the long awaited Luna and Celestia episode – and don’t even get me started on her showing up on Equestria Girls where I’m betting they’ll be shilling her to world’s end, most likely by mouth of Sunset, no less.
 
No, I’m not happy with any of this, and if these episodes turn out to be as bad as I’m predicting, I’ll be voicing it, likely quite loudly, but that said and done, that’s still not a reason, let alone an excuse, to directly or indirectly attack her fans, regardless of their attitude or whether or not they think her taking over the show is right. Attacking other fans is just being a dick, and sure, sure, OP here is likely more on the “duck” side of morality because of how he’s generalizing all who dislike Starlight, but what’s the use of stepping down to their level?
 
I’ll say, voice your dislike of Starlight all you like, let it be known so the fandom – and hopefully by extension the writers and producers – come to know that something with the writing has been wrong as of late in regards of Starlight, but draw the line at attacking fellow fans, because that’s just breeding hatred.
chubbyninja89
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@Alexlayer  
So you’re saying that it’s complete ok that she’s taking over the show? Because that’s just stupid, not only the fact that it’s happening in the show, but also the fact that some people try to justify it.
 
The show isn’t called My Little Starlight.
 
And the OP does not have a point, and he’s just being stupid by adding that.
Alexlayer
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Okay, okay, people? Come on, chill. I’ve probably been one of the most vocal so-called “Starlight Haters” as of late and if anything, I stand as evidence of that the conflict isn’t as one sided as Background Ponies are claiming. Sure, I’ve been on the end of condescending words from Starlight fans as well, but my point is: The anger goes both ways, and it only fuels each other’s side.
 
Now, I may strongly dislike Starlight, guys, but not excuse to insult her fans or talk ill about them. So Background Ponies, please quite behaving like victims and insinuating the hate is that one sided.
 
One thing that we can probably most agree on is that Starlight is clearly a very divisive character, and with the way things are going, will probably continue to be so for at least a good while. That said and done, while voicing one’s opinion on the character is one thing, attacking each other is plain rudeness, so again, let’s just all chill, please.
Brass Melody
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@Background Pony #BC95  
And yet you have paragraph long comments that show you getting angry at people for making such a big deal about a character that has joined the cast of leads. You don’t need to outright say it. Your actions have spoken for you.
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@BK_Leonidas  
Thats very creative thinking, because not even once have i mentioned that i ahte starlight, or that i hate her having screentime. It kinda just goes to show im not so wrong about generalisation against people who dont like starlight
Brass Melody
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@Background Pony #BC95  
Right now I’m just imagining you getting so worked up over a character because she’s getting more screentime than the fandom expected and your 3 posts as of this post show that bit of imagination coming to fruition.
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@Crazieman  
There are literally thousands of posts humiliating people who dont like starlight, picturing them as autistic manchildren who only shitposts on 4chan all day. Starlight hateposts are practically nothing compared to thier opposites. And i bet you a good part of the statlight hate-posts are just starlight fans posting dumb shit trying to make those who just dont like starlight look bad. One does not need to be a genius to see that about 70% of the posts and comments with the tag “starlight drama” is either neutral general discoussion, or hate on non-statlight fans. Mabye im tired of being branded as autistic and crazy because i dont like a character thats writing is “somewhat okay-ish” in a show of many well written characters. But no, because i have legitemate reasons for not liking starlight, im just put in the general group of fedora tipping overweight 4channers, because based upon all the starlight drama posts, that is exactly how many of you imagine us to be