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Diversion attempt? A character who is defined by their ability to make almost anything out of anything and get out of almost any situation not being able to. A character who is defined as being so good at magic she’s the Element of Magic and the personal student of Celestia forgetting she can do any actual magic. It’s an apt analogy.
No, what I wanted was the character who is the Element of Magic and now an Alicorn, to actually use magic to solve one, just ONE of the problems tossed at them. Season 1 Twilight handled some situations far more dangerous than some of situations in the movie. Oh no, a gang of people want to take us. That’s so much scarier than an Ursa Minor. Oh no, we’re falling out of a balloon. That completely negates my ability to think until we splat against the rocks and die.
My point is time and time again, over and over there were situations where BASIC MAGIC would’ve solved the issue. But no, apparently she forgot how to cast any spell beyond telekinesis and laser blasts that did nothing.
You can say what you like, you can try to justify it any way you like, but the truth is it was for plot convenience. The same way Stormtroopers can’t hit shit until they need to. The same way just the right systems get hit with the first blast in Star Trek to disable ships and make the episode dramatic. They nerfed her magic ability because otherwise most of the situations they put them in would’ve been solved instantly.
Ursa Minor
Queen Chrysalis
Discord
Tirek
Starlight Glimmer
Sunset Shimmer
The Sirens
Do I need to keep going on with situations that she was under serious stress yet didn’t forget every single spell she knew? She doesn’t need to be perfect. But you know what? In none of those situations did she forget all the magic she knew. For days.
You seemed to have missed the pissed-off arguments about how that was bullshit and ALSO a plot contrivance.
We’re not going to get anywhere. All I’m saying is they “dumbed” her down for the movie so the plot would actually work. You’re saying it’s “logical” and “in character” for her to crumble to uselessness at the slightest resistance or stress. If that were true, Equestria would’ve been doomed in season 1.
You obviously loved the movie. Good for you. I had issues with it, as did many people. And this happens to be one of my biggest ones. I could see if there was one or two situations where she was helpless. But not the entire damn movie. Especially not in situations where imminent danger wasn’t even present. The desert? Hiding at Capper’s? A teleport would’ve solved the issue. Or even when imminent danger was present. The pirates on the ship? Hey, shame she doesn’t know a shield spell, or practically any other spell that would’ve helped them, oh wait…
They made her into Twilight Useless for the movie so the plot would flow. Again, there’s a trope named for this: Idiot Ball. Look it up.
What the Fluff?
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You keep using yourself as a reference
Yeah, no– one time. In the context of a glaringly obvious analogy that could have had literally anyone else on the planet who’s ever pulled off a cool move plugged in instead. Diversion attempt denied.
Diversion attempt? A character who is defined by their ability to make almost anything out of anything and get out of almost any situation not being able to. A character who is defined as being so good at magic she’s the Element of Magic and the personal student of Celestia forgetting she can do any actual magic. It’s an apt analogy.
Look, I get that what you really wanted was Twilight Sparkle: Rainbow Mane Six Tier 1 Tactical Operator
No, what I wanted was the character who is the Element of Magic and now an Alicorn, to actually use magic to solve one, just ONE of the problems tossed at them. Season 1 Twilight handled some situations far more dangerous than some of situations in the movie. Oh no, a gang of people want to take us. That’s so much scarier than an Ursa Minor. Oh no, we’re falling out of a balloon. That completely negates my ability to think until we splat against the rocks and die.
My point is time and time again, over and over there were situations where BASIC MAGIC would’ve solved the issue. But no, apparently she forgot how to cast any spell beyond telekinesis and laser blasts that did nothing.
You can say what you like, you can try to justify it any way you like, but the truth is it was for plot convenience. The same way Stormtroopers can’t hit shit until they need to. The same way just the right systems get hit with the first blast in Star Trek to disable ships and make the episode dramatic. They nerfed her magic ability because otherwise most of the situations they put them in would’ve been solved instantly.
It is an observable fact at multiple points throughout the series that Twilight trips herself up under stress
Ursa Minor
Queen Chrysalis
Discord
Tirek
Starlight Glimmer
Sunset Shimmer
The Sirens
Do I need to keep going on with situations that she was under serious stress yet didn’t forget every single spell she knew? She doesn’t need to be perfect. But you know what? In none of those situations did she forget all the magic she knew. For days.
Starlight Glimmer, who is objectively not even close to the same power level, was countering and foiling and diverting and parrying her to a standoff even when she was genuinely pissed off and actually trying
You seemed to have missed the pissed-off arguments about how that was bullshit and ALSO a plot contrivance.
We’re not going to get anywhere. All I’m saying is they “dumbed” her down for the movie so the plot would actually work. You’re saying it’s “logical” and “in character” for her to crumble to uselessness at the slightest resistance or stress. If that were true, Equestria would’ve been doomed in season 1.
You obviously loved the movie. Good for you. I had issues with it, as did many people. And this happens to be one of my biggest ones. I could see if there was one or two situations where she was helpless. But not the entire damn movie. Especially not in situations where imminent danger wasn’t even present. The desert? Hiding at Capper’s? A teleport would’ve solved the issue. Or even when imminent danger was present. The pirates on the ship? Hey, shame she doesn’t know a shield spell, or practically any other spell that would’ve helped them, oh wait…
They made her into Twilight Useless for the movie so the plot would flow. Again, there’s a trope named for this: Idiot Ball. Look it up.