Sphinx: Final Naming Poll

i voted for Nekopatra, Jinxy, and sphinx. I liked them all and couldnt decide lol

@cheezedoodle  

 
Please, I have like five accounts going back seven years (because it used to be that you couldn’t change your user name). Besides, people have been doing things like mass-registering accounts to spam downvotes since the beginning. I’d be more interested in how many uploads and comments the Nekopatra voter-accounts have.

@Wispy Tuft
 
I disagree, the other three polls are managing to (so far) beat the status quo option, the Sphinx’s case is different

@NamelessNP
 
First off, I want to clarify. On a personal level I either wanted ‘Jinxy’ or ‘Sphinx (character)’ to win. I’m perfectly happy with the result but I must point out the glaring flaw in this pole where I see it.
 
Mr and Mrs Shys polls are 10 choices instead of 15 which of course makes the votes clump into more concentrated clusters. That makes it easier for a unique name suggestion to overwhelm the original suggestion.  
Even so, the other 3 polls are still flawed. There should have been a poll for each character asking if the name should be changed or not. Yes or No.  
You’ll notice that leaving the names the same is also the second largest voted for option on each pole other then the sphinx. But regardless of how the other polls are fairing, my observation is still valid, the polls are lopsided because the polls are asking two questions, while collecting 1 point of data.
 
The two questions being:  
1: Should the sphinx name stay the same? (yes) or (—)  
2: What would you like the sphinxes new name to be? (bastet) (Nekopatra) (Jinxy) (isis) (etc.)
 
A perfectly fair pole would be as follows:
 
Poll A:  
Should (insert character) be named?  

@HumanGhosts  
Uploads and comments are not a very good metric. Many people don’t do either. Votes aren’t the best metric but most people at least do some voting.
 
Of the 172 votes for nekopatra when I took the data, here’s the breakdown:
 
accounts with no image votes: 18  
accounts with 10+ image votes: 49  
accounts with 1k+ image votes: 51  
accounts with 10k+ image votes: 40  
accounts with 100K+ image votes: 14
 
Several of the accounts were potential aliases, but there was no evidence any of the multiple accounts were used to do any voting.
 
Anyway, some data. As I mentioned before, many people vote for multiple entries. Here’s the number of choices each account voted for:  
Votes # Acts  
1 42  
2 14  
3 29  
4 29  
5 21  
6 8  
7 15  
8 6  
9 4  
10 1  
11 2  
12 2  
13 2  
14 0  
15 0
 
Of the 42 people who voted only for nekopatra, only 6 had no image votes. The average number of image votes for people who voted only for nekopatra is 6,200. The average number of names selected for people with no image votes is 3. The average number of names selected for all people who voted for nekopatra is 4.

@CMC Scootaloo
 
On my case, i wanted to name her, but i ended up voting for the equivalent of “none of the above” because none of the suggestions look good to me.

@cheezedoodle
 
Thank you for looking, but it seems to me uploads and comments are better metrics because they can’t be automated. Or at least that’s what I’d do if I were writing a bot, have it select popular tags and fave random images under them. You could automate comments too, but it would be riskier. Uploads are really the only thing I don’t see how you could automate at all. The percentage of people with zero uploads should still tend towards the same number in each pool, shouldn’t it?

@HumanGhosts  

 
They can, it just takes a little trickiness and they can be automated. I have a project on the drawing board that would allow artists to drag/drop their art to my discord bot and it would post it for them.

@cheezedoodle  
Thanks for being thorough. I’m satisfied.  
Turns out people just have bad taste.

@Damaged  
Well, yeah, the posting part itself. The impractical part is obtaining enough original art for all your bots to look legit.

@HumanGhosts  
Ah, heh. Well, Fimfic have long-since stated that computer-generated content that has no work done by a human to at least make it readable is banned—not sure if derpibooru has made a statement on that side of things, but if they’re allowing digital art, I could always fire up PyTorch on my bot…

@Damaged  
We actually already have a neural network with an artist tag here. Though I’m not sure how much those were edited by the artist behind it.

@Yoshimon1  
So they’re allowed then? Well, that makes life a bit easier with regard to uploading automatically.

@Damaged
 
I’ve never heard them say that. But it’s good they enforce this. We should never allow machines to do art for us and art created in such a way should always get banned everywhere, regardless if it’s drawn or written.

@CMC Scootaloo
 
Yes! Ban art! Ban art! Ban art! Censorship is magic!
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿’̿’̵͇̿̿з

@Wispy Tuft
 
Yes, I’m sure the machine who made the art piece, because the “artist” was too lazy to learn drawing by themselves, will feel very censored~

wow the most unoriginal one is winning, why was Sphinx (Character) even on the list?

@CMC Scootaloo
 
Besides, machines can’t have feelings.
 
@wselfwulf
 
Because it was defined in the first post of the thread for name suggestions that the option of leaving as-is would be in the poll for those that didn’t want her to get a name or as a “none of the above” option. It turns out that for the Sphinx, the first party was stronger than with the others.

@CMC Scootaloo  
Its arguable that the people who made the art machine would be getting censored.  
It has nothing to do with feelings. It has to do with upholding a principle. That all art be expressible.
 
This isn’t the place for this conversation.

GG @everyone

@Wispy Tuft
 
Banning machine-generated art has, too. Supporting an environment where art created by AI can flourish and grow means to also support that artists don’t put an effort into their work anymore and earn fame with something that they did not even create by themselves.  
Additionally, it would one day lead to it that real artists who stick to the old ways won’t have a job anymore and get forced to either succumb to the AI creation or to stop creating, because AI art is faster and easier to produce and beats artists who draw everything manually.
 
There are many wrong reasons for censorship, but not all are. Banning computer-generated art to prevent artistic creation from becoming something machine-controlled would be the right and responsible thing to do.  
Art should only get expressed by an actual artist, not artificial intelligence.

@CMC Scootaloo  
Hey AI has rights too! (no they don’t)! What if you bully a AI and it turns Skynet on us! (omg Skynet please don’t kill me, I’m your biggest fan!)

@Ping_chan
 
The funny thing is, if it were an actual AI that identifies itself as a living, feeling creature (Sweetie Bot, “Detroit: Become Human”, ect.), I would be okay with them creating art and publishing it. That wouldn’t be much different from a human creating art anymore then. And they’ll likely say no if you ask them to do your art for you. Unless you commission them and pay them to do art, which is something human artists do anyway.  
But right now, it’s a mere machine that can draw or write for you, not a real AI.

@CMC Scootaloo  
If we created a full on AI we would have functionally created a living mind that would be capable of expressing emotions and feeling and thinking just as real as you or me. Just because your head computer is made out of meat doesn’t make you better than a computer made out of metal. If we truly make real, AI it should have the right to draw like anything else. An interesting thing you bring up at the censorship point I’ll have to actually think about whether or not anything should ever be censored because I find censorship as a whole quite reprehensible.

I cannot believe.
 
You numpties.
 
Voted for no name.
 
For fnork’s sake.
 
Good God, y’all.