@Background Pony #342E
I guess I didn’t understand how the widescreen in N64 games worked, because I didn’t have widescreen as a kid. It’s nice how they implemented it in those games.

They also improved some framerates in games like Pilotwings 64.

As you can see with the Nintendo 64 games on Switch in the four years since we had this conversation (or however long it was, I just see “four years ago”, I don’t know if you can set it to display exact dates somehow) they could have had the the image stretched out after it was squished (to avoid distortion) like it was done before but they didn’t bother.

I’m not sure why you thought I was talking about it having a higher resolution. Fortunately we got Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, and Banjo-Tooie in their proper widescreen and I’m sure we will get Donkey Kong 64 with it working one day on the system.

@semerl
I believe that one didn’t even get a box, as it was a SuperNES console bundle pack-in, or something.

Shame it’s not the seldom made “+World” version.

@Background Pony #342E  
Some improvements over Wii N64 games was Rumble support could finally work, you could customize the controllers, AND suspend/restore save points could work, allowing you to continue exactly from where you were.
 
The widescreen for DK64 I think only worked for old TVs, because it stretches it out, rather then increase the resolution. (Which the N64 wasn’t capable of.)

The only bad part I remember about the N64 Wii U Virtual Console was that they did something weird with the settings for the lightning on their emulator so the colors were darker then they should be.
 
Oh and Donkey Kong 64 wasn’t in widescreen even though the game had a built in widescreen (selecting it from the menu just resulted in a squashed image which you couldn’t stretch).
 
At least I think that’s how it was. It has been while so my memory might be off on that.

@Background Pony #71CB  
My N64 games work fine on WiiU, and I didn’t have lag.  
Or are you refering to the control-stick sensitivity that was messed up in earlier releases? (Which wasn’t as precise as the Wii versions, requiring you to push the control stick halfway for it to work.) That was a li’l annoying though they corrected it for some games like Star Fox 64, and F-Zero.
 
Though “Super Mario 64 DS” works well on a WiiU Game Pad, and TV.

@northern haste  
And thank god for that since playing Mario 64 on the Wii U was awful for just how bad the input lag was in that emulation. Same goes for all the N64 games that were available on the Wii U’s virtual console.

@Beau Skunky  
Also they still did optimize them for hd It’s not the same as playing virtual console or a wii disk on wii U on an hd tv

@Background Pony #71CB  
In fairness, Super Mario Sunshine & Galaxy probably wouldn’t look much different with a higher polygon count, and I think they kept Super Mario 64 the way it is, because it’s low-polygon style has become kinda familiar with it.
 
The SNES was a different story, because they were trying to push “better” graphics back then, and experiment with them.

@Beau Skunky  
I wouldn’t call 3D All-Stars a sequel since the graphics in all 3 3D Mario games aren’t improved at all, with the exceptions of them being in higher resolutions.

Is this hilarious in hindsight now that said game is recently on Switch? (With an upcoming sequel.)

@Beau Skunky  
I think I even saw people claiming twilight was becoming a background pony at the same time as seeing people claiming she was Dominating the show

@northern haste  
True, just look how divided this brony/MLP fandom is on everything. Even Pony Life, and it’s version of Fluttershy are divisive.

@Beau Skunky  
No fandom ever truly agrees on things and sometimes it Turns into a full on 5050 split.

@Background Pony #71CB
 
I don’t hate them. They’re just inferior to the originals.

@Background Pony #342E  
I know that, but my point was that no matter what they do somebody will take issue with it.
 
And actually, there are some contrarians online whom do change their mind alot, or just like to troll.

@Beau Skunky
 
That’s a logical fallacy. “First you said X then you said Y” when the people that said X and the people that say Y were entirely different people.

@Background Pony #71CB  
Yeah, I remember similarly some complained about “Twilight Princess’s” reveal trailer having orchestra music, but the final game had mostly synth music. Even then some complained it didn’t have orchestra music either. Can’t win either way.
 
Meanwhile, Mario Kart, and Splatoon use actual electric guitars, instruments, mixed with synth sounds, and nobody complains, either mistakenly thinking they’re fully synth, or fully instrumental. Maybe they need to do that more to trick players.

@Beau Skunky  
Now that I think about it, I do remember encountering someone who complained about modern 3D Mario games having live orchestral soundtracks like in the Galaxy games & Odyssey, claiming that Mario games shouldn’t use live orchestral osts & that it doesn’t belong in the Mario series, saying things like “This is Mario! Not Star Wars!”

@northern haste  
Yeah, as I pointed out in the Sonic forum thread here, it was odd they advertised it as a “Genesis/Megadrive” game, (even the reversable clamshell packaging paper) as it’s graphics/animations/colors/effects are more like what you’d see in a sidescrolling/2D 32-bit Sega Saturn game, and the music quality is more 32-bit CD style.  
Even the 3D low-polygon bonus stages look reminiscent of that. It really does feel like a lost Sega Saturn game.

@Beau Skunky  
The funny thing is sonic mania wasn’t Limiting itself to Genesis Gameplay feeding more like the Saturn really  
.

@northern haste  
I’ve seen some complain Megaman 7 was 16-bit, instead of 8-bit.
 
I remember people complaining that Sonic the Hedgehog 4 wasn’t 16-bit, and then later some bashed “Sonic Mania” for looking too “retro,” or “nostalgia pandering.” I swear you can’t win no matter what.

@Beau Skunky  
It is worth remembering (This doesn’t make retro games any less good) Most retro games were limited to what they could do. I even saw someone complaining about mario 64 being 3d because more mario was supposed to be 2d.oh he also capcom lazy for making megaman nine 8 bit

Now I wanna play it.
 
@Background Pony #71CB  
I’ve seen a few, but they’re more rare, same with Zelda. (They dominate the Sonic fandom for some reason.) There’s also some whom argue if the traditional sidescroller Castlevanias, or RPG-ish Metroidvanias are “better,” and such. So there’s always going to be some “new VS old” gamers out there for every series.
 
I even saw a guy back in the 2000s say Ocarina of Time “sucked,” just because it didn’t have an overhead view… (I’m serious.) I saw another guy even rant about how he hates “Blonde” Link, and wishes they’d bring back brown-haired Link. He also hates blonde Samus. (Guess he’s hair-ist.)
 
Speaking as a retro-gamer, we can’t expect every game to be like the old ones, and if they only emulated the old ones, they’d be very limited in what they can do. There’s only so much you can do with Mario moving in only 2 directions, (this is why the NewSMB games lost their novelty) or an above-view Link.