@liquidsodanium  
I can say for certain that sometimes drinking can cause radical shifts in emotion and mental state. Also both are accurate however the top is the viewed loud opinion, where as the bottom is the more common general variety.

So, both can’t be true?

 

@Moonatik  

@leondmaster  
“you people”?

@Moonatik  
Mark my words, Trump is going to win and you people are going to screech about how there was interference, just like what happened in 2016.

@belmontzar  

 
The pain of living in Michigan is felt.
 
 
But more real: there is no human nature. The only thing that can be assuredly said about it is that we differ from animals only in how we make shit not just for our own basic-bitch survival but to enrich and enhance our own enjoyment in the environment. That’s it.

But that’s literally what they’re doing - rioting, burning cop cars, bashing in windows. Sure, ‘#NotAll’, but the people doing it are left-wing extremists.

@belmontzar  
That’s the whole point. If people are smart, they are harder to control, thus necessitating a system that works for them rather than for their “betters”. This is how you can get anarchy to actually work in some capacity. In addition to this, if people are smarter and needing to govern themselves, they will be more likely to work toward self-preservation and responsibility in their lives (independence). Of course, that’s why we’d have to stress mutual aid and environmentalism so that we can keep financial inequality down and fix our climate. As for you going off track, I’ll just say that authoritative parenting is the way to go since it’s a perfect balance between strict authoritarian parenting and lax permissive parenting. Basically, you establish boundaries with your kid but you provide emotional support to them as well. So establishing trust. As for “cancelling”, I think it’s partly a result of seeing the horrible things that “untouchable” people do and finding some way to release the genuine outrage…though some people might just be obstinate for the sake of it if they don’t look at genuine change. The latter can’t be helped. Again though, you went off track but that’s fine.

@AaronMk  
kinda hard to not feel alienated when your a mental minority surrounded by people who think you need to die because you think differently. I know im a bit messed in the head as a result, no argument there at all.
 
I am a Pagan Athiest who grew up in a very religious part of Kalamazoo Michigan. So yeah… kinda hard to not feel alienated when every single day lead to pain and suffering for many many years. I even have my bias against people still but I’m trying to get better at handling that as well. [Though admittedly that Bias against people in general has risen again, and kinda expanded thanks to the grand pandemic]  
But beyond that i did a lot of study on my own about different types of government. I wanted to compare and contrast the actual differences between the things everyone talks about.. and After much study came to the conclusion that by its very nature Government is flawed, but that it also has to be flawed so that it may grow and adapt accordingly to the times and situation of the people.

@Nido3  
yes and your right.. but if the people are smart.. they are harder to control. That desire by the people in power to Control, to keep people dumbed down, to limit access to knowledge, to in effect, punish the people who ARE smart and DO look things up. You need to set up a system that works with people, instead of trying to control them in some way shape or form, and im not sure such a thing can exist. Mostly because, if such a thing did exist, then people would need to take responsibility for their own actions, which so many people hate to do.
 
Just looking at society today, you got a bunch of parents who refuse to parent, you have people who throw as many excuses as possible to avoid feeling bad. Hell people get mad at you when you ADMIT you messed up. I had a f*** up, and I admitted it, and instead of letting me TAKE the lumps I deserved, they kept telling me that it wasn’t my fault [When it was] and that I was being hard on myself [which I wasn’t, in fact I stated how dam lucky I was that things had not been worse when I admitted my mistake.]  
But then, on the utter flipside, you got people being fired or having their lives ruined because of choices made over ten years ago.  
angry person : YOU ARE HORRIBLE  
person : yeah.. it was ten years ago, and I WAS horrible. I got better, turned my life around, and am so much better a person now.  
angry person : NOPE you are horrible.
 
Like.. seriously… what the hell?  
I… realize i went a little off track but I hope this makes sense.

@belmontzar
 
This post by: Alienation.
 
Alienation: drowning you in a culture of indifference and bleak despair since 1981. Alienation: We’ll convince you there is nothing better; we’ll convince you there was nothing ever good.

@belmontzar  
You’re describing a culture of ignorance and you’re right about that. The solution is to change that culture. Create an emphasis on education and critical thinking while helping people without the means to get those things. This will obviously take work since people suck but if you can dumb people down, you can smarten em up.

@AaronMk  
If people could actually be counted on to not only willingly come together or actually plan on something as elaborate as any sort of council id be fine and like the idea, unfortunatly.. well… im fairly sure you know humanity and people well enough to know how far that tends to go. Technically safety meetings at my work are mandatory and not going to them, can lead to termination due to the large number of hazerdous things we work on/around on a daily basis. Yet even something as simple as that is beyond many many people.

@belmontzar
 
Perhaps you should try a worker’s council

@Nido3  
it is not that simple, in a sense, while none of them happen to be good or perfect, they are still a necessary thing conscious intelligent beings need directing, or direction of some sort. It is admittedly kind of paradoxical… we want to be in charge and in command of our lives, yet we require someone else to handle and take care of things such as laws and governmental functions. There is no getting around the fact we need some form of government overseeing our dumb azzes, that is just the way it is.

@belmontzar  
So get rid of the government and build a system that upsets the least amount of people. Ideally, the people being upset should be the worst kind of person. Maybe have workers vote out the drunk.

The fact lf the matter is that just about all forms of government have built in flaws, because of the fact they are government.  
You either have the guy who kicks All kinds of a$$ being upset that he is treated the same as the guy who is drunk asleep on the bench.  
Or a bunch of hard workers upset that this one crazy awesome guy makes ten times more than them when, in reality, these hard workers are not only in more danger, but pull in far more revenue than the one guy does these days.  
There is no really good system, because we as humans wont LET there be a good system. SOMEONE has to be upset and want to change things, and honestly thats not entirely a bad thing.  
During the early days of Covid I remember feeling both a mixture of Sheer Panic but also relief when I found out I was an Essential worker.  
Me : YAY I CAN WORK!  
then  
Me : F*** I gotta walk into the wasteland!  
My only main irritation is  
“Hey look im important enough to work… but my paycheck remains the same.”

@Armagedonus  
The fact that you don’t know that every socialist whose engaged with just a bit of theory acknowledges that the capitalist mode of production is a necessary stage of societal development frankly demonstrates a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject on your part.

@Armagedonus  
The Soviets were socialist in name only. They were more along the lines of state capitalism. In America, we’re capitalist but also have people trying to gut our welfare system which has only lead to revolts, leading to capitalism itself falling out of favor.

@Moonatik  
Paradox of anti-capitalism:  
The loudest anti-capitalist voices come from rich countries that embranced it completly, while the most anti-capitalist countries start being capitalist when regimes dies and people are given free will.
 
Seriously, I am from post-soviet “socialist utopia” that embranced capitalism at the drop of the hat.  
Result? We became over 10 times richier! And things like “empty shops” or “ration stamps” became history.

@AaronMk  
“Arena chances” comes with power rotation. This is easier to observe on the enterprise environment, especially when there is a radical change in consuming culture or supply chain. Like when a mining town run out of ore to sell and become a tourist town, or even something more dramatic like Uber taking over taxis. It’s fascinating to try and understand power switches.  
 
I had the distinct privilege of growing up in a “industrial district (single industry city)” and see the chaos left behind after someone grabs the CEO throne:  
The way the town votes change, rich neighborhoods become vacant while poor neighborhoods are suddenly rich, old social clubs change flags, even the town cultural events went from “MPB” music to country music. Not to say the wave of unemployment has every other business adapts to the new meta game of the head industry. It ain’t pretty, but sure is interesting.
 
 
@Armagedonus  
Teenagers imma right wheeze

@Armagedonus