Noooooooo!

Twilight and Timber are not the perfect couples.

@OneOverTwo  
A fitting analogy…
 
What many fans of Timber, and TimberTwi I think miss, is that in how this pairing was writen, Timber’s story also suffered - when in the non canon Bloopers more of his comical personality was shown (once they weren’t bound to push as much as they can Twi and Timber as a pair), or even his share care about his sister, and his comlex relationship with camp Everfree, - these are things we could see more of, if Timber wsn’t just shoved so much into the role of Sci-Twi’s boyfriend. Again, have him maybe still as Twilight’s boyfriend, but let him be more often more than that, as it was shown there is stuff about him that could be explored.

@BackgroundLoL  
My analogy is something like:
 
I like laptops & I like peanut butter, but I don’t think putting them together would work out in all that satisfactory a way.

@OneOverTwo  
Yeah, I also fear it will be the case…

Horrible couple, just my opinion.

I seriously doubt they’ll be able to make me think this pairing has the proper chemistry.
 
^{It’s possible but unlikely with their track record.}

@marik_azemus34
 
You know, you can like, and even love something, but still recognize it’s flaws.
 
Again, people who love FiM, and are considerate and constructive in criticism, noticed for example Wonderbolts, and Spitfire are less and less sympathetic in each appearance, and they have the right to point it out. Or do you claim fans should uncritically worship what they enjoy? I also wonder if you would hold this views about an aspect of a work you like (not necessary MLP), you yourself think is flawed, or even bad, but you would like to see improved?
 
Dunno about Timber “showing the capacity to put himself out there for her” - the one time he noticed Twi was in trauma, he quickly forgot about it (and that was when SciTwi was most traumatized by her fears, aside from the battle against Gloriosa. And who came to support her then? Not Timber, but Sunset.). I think you’re confusing his actions here for what Sunset done. I mean, as Timber literally had no role in Twilight overcoming Midnight, and controlling her magic.
 
Him making her feel better was rather not that good writing - I mean Twilight went in moments from being paralyzed by fear of Midnight and her magic, to lovestruck. This arguably damaged Sci-Twi character arc, as it undermined her trauma. Some people even find Sci-Twi unlikable because of it, and (they not me) think she acts as a jerk towards her friends, if she acts snappy because of her trauma/fears when around them, but acting all lovestruck around Timber.
 
Again, if the writers were slightly more consistent, than rather switching sometimes within seconds with Twilight acting traumatized, then meeting Timber and acting all in love, then again being traumatized. Again PEOPLE.AND.THEIR.EMOTIONS.DON’T.WORK.THAT.WAY.
 
And many reviews, even liking Timber and/or Timber x Twilight romance , noticed the romance isn’t exactly well paced.
 
And, really, can you claim it’s well paced, when it at least kinda starts essentially as a cliched love at first sight ?
 
And to be clear, while I hope the writers will develop the romance of Sci-Twi and Timber better, if the creators decided to do so, I just think they done it badly as of now, and wrote about my opinion as such before.  
@BackgroundLoL  

 
Again, just my opinion, but your previous comments, are just your opinion, nothing more, nothing less. I don’t think you should necessary try to shove to other peoples throats, if they disagree with you.

I have no interest in dragging this out but I can see how it could be…

@marik_azemus34  
Sure. I know better than to waste my time with people like you.

@Alexlayer  
I’m secure enough in myself to not waste too much time complaining about things I can’t change. I have stuff to do. Making my monkey servants dance for me is just a little hobby of mine.
 
Now, away with you. And, if you don’t mind…  

@marik_azemus34  
Gee, and you complain about others being embarrassing to be around?

@BackgroundLoL  
I like creating stuff and letting other people create stuff. The showrunners for Equestria Girls chose to pair these two up and I rather like them together.
 
They’re both nerds who love nature, geology especially, and Timber has shown the capacity to put himself out there for her, connecting with her emotionally and making her feel better despite her ongoing fear of Midnight Sparkle. He doesn’t know her situation but he has the ability to make her feel less alone in her time of need. That’s boyfriend material.
 
It’s okay if you don’t like them together, but chee-rist, how vindictive and hateful people can be towards this pairing is just an embarrassment to be around. If they insist on acting like filth-slinging monkeys in the mere presence of easily blacklisted tags and seek to ruin my enjoyment of a fictional couple I happen to like, I might as well make the monkeys dance.

@marik_azemus34  
You indeed really seem to enjoy to provoking people, and causing ruckus, don’t you?

 
You know what you are.

>_>
 
This wasn’t supposed to be so serious.

@MrSeyker  
Dunno, I think I and Starswirl still have a discussion going on, and the extra comments, is to clear up stuff up, so there won’t be another unecersary quarrel, due to misunderstandings…

@Starswirl  
Also, with stuff bellow, dunno, in retrospect you probably didn’t know the scale of the stuff then, hence your friendly interraction with angrybrony, although I admitted allready that in this instance I might have overracted (and I think I did in retrospect), and I apolognized for it (and I apolognize again, for what it’s worth).

BackgroundLoL, it’s time to stop.

@Starswirl
 
To be clear, I meant not “but also responding positively to his stalking, and reacting similarly.”, but “but also responding fairly positively to his stalking, and that one time reacting seemingly similarly.”
 
In all fairness tough, I should also note, that this might very well not the case all the time, but that’s what expirienced in the instances your interraction I saw.

@Starswirl  
Oh, you answered one of my point when I wrote my response - cool.
 
I think you forget though Sunset clearly stated in Rainbow Rocks she dated Flash as she was only using him to leech of his popularity, and that she does feel nothing towards him, and Twilight is free to have him.
 
Not to mention, Rarity and Applejack have about times times more shippy moments, than Flash and Sunset (2-3 moments). I mean, I think Equestria Girls versions of Applejack and Rarity have more of them, in some they much more physically close than Sunset and Flash were ever shown.  
>>383642t (merged)  
>>1259673t (merged)
 
About lesbian ships having it easier than straight ones - dunno that’s an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence, ie the weight of evidence rests one the one making the claim (you). Gay ships (male x Male) having it truly harder than lesbian ones, I can buy it, but straight ones? Give me some evidence (as I justified before), without it, it’s hard for me to buy.
 
(Again, I don’t claim lesbian ships have it harder - just that they have it comparably with straight ships, so I don’t think I make an extraordinary claim.)
 
Again, if the straight ships had that hard, I’m not sure there would be 52% of straight pictures on derpibooru…quite a bit with hundreds, or even over thousand upvotes.
 
But let’s be fair, if we take out explicit, and questionable pictures, there is 31324 straight pics on derpibooru, and 34124 lesbian ones - so (relatively, seeing the size of numbers) slightly more lesbian ones, I can give you that. But believe me, a lot of “Questionable” lesbian pictures, is porn, it just doesn’t show genitals, or acts using them super visibly, while straight questionably tagged pictures are less often outright softcrone porn.
 
But I still don’t think, seeing the relative closeness of numbers, that straight ships have it worse than lesbian ones.
 
Although in this discussion, I think it should be also noted there is MUCH more female characters, than male ones (I think over two times over, but I may be wrong) in FiM and Equestria Girls, and there is more female x female interactions, than female x male, and least male x male ones. (I mean talking, doing stuff together)
 
But to be clear, I wait till you write your arguments why straight ships have it worse than lesbian ones. And take some time, if you must. Or don’t do it you don’t want to XD
 
(although arguably, I did already give you something, with the numbers of straight and lesbian pics not counting explicit and questionable pictures…even if it’s a very slight advantage in number, relatively speaking.)

@Starswirl  
I only kinda implied you’re not as smart, by writing I’m disapointed how gone the way of the excatly same hasty conclusions as angrybrony, and thought you you wouldn’t do. Hence why I didn’t include the information were I precisely wrote I don’t think you are a homophobe. But as I write, I decided against, in part as I thought I would then insult your intelligence.
 
I maybe shouldn’t use the term smarter, and use “wiser”, but I was kinda angry because of your response. I also wanted to write “when you so exactly that you do claiming I’m called you a homophobe…talk about projecting.” to “ when you so exactly that you do claiming I’m called you a homophobe or framed as one…talk about projecting.”, similarly how I wrote in the rest of the comment (“That’s in no way the same as me calling you a homophobe, or even framing you as one.”, “If you still claim so – please tell me were exactly I called or framed you as a homophobe?”, but as I was a bit angry when I wrote, I missed the “framed” and latter it was to late to edit it…
 
About being biased against homosexual pairings - really that’s not the same as homophobia, especially seeing we talk about fictional characters. Again, wold you call a person who dislikes homosexual romance stories, but is an angel to real life homosexuals “homophobic”?
 
And about you coming to me as biased against non-straight ships - really I also used it, as also I didn’t have a better word how to describe how you come of to me. I found kinda annoying and strange you were nitpicking on the family tree, seemingly because it had more homosexual pairings (and yet it had more straight pairings, than male x male ones for example). If you had another reason, okay, but so it did come of to me. I mean it didn’t help you complained about Velvet x Celestia, but I don’t remember you complaining about (the tens of times more popular) Fluttershy x Big Mac, or others like Sombra x Chrysalis (who never met outside of comics, and the ship existed before that) which are of similar nature. Correct me if I’m wrong, and if so, then I apolognize.
 
You also wrote you don’t much toxicity towards SunsetSparkle pictures compared to TimberTwi, or FlashLight, right after you acknowledged angrybrony’s actions. I mean the guy talked how Sci-Twi x Sunset Shimmer sucks, under every second, or sometimes every new SciTwiShimmer picture at times, and even threatened me for imagined insults.
 
Sorry, but those two in pair ticked me of, I mean don’t you think were at least bit contradictory there?
 
With that, you at least seemingly came of to me as wanting to frame SciTwiShimmer, or SunsetSparkle facing visibly less toxicity than it does. (and there many more toxic comments about it, although most usually from BackgroundPonies…I can search for them if you want).
 
The fact I myself was kinda affected by toxicity towards SciTwishimmer (as I described), made your words seem even worse to me.
 
(To be fair though, angrybrony now stalks WAAY less often SsciTwishimmer, or lesbian pics in general these days…so he improved I guess?)
 
About your joke - I think you yourself kinda admitted it was unnecessary, and I just wanted to present it to you as an interesting example - if a similar (although in some manner, due to you know canon and stuff) comment was made on a TimberTwi picture, wouldn’t you hold it as an example of an anti-TimberTwi bias.
 
Let’s something like this was under a TmberTwi picture: “Here we have a canon ship that will sink as fast, or faster than FlashLight XD” (Again, I don’t mean it, just give it as an example). Again, I doubt you would like it, and you may consider it flamming. Yes, the comments are kinda diffeent, but I think they comparable.
 
It was also to serve, obviously, as another counter-argument to you not doing anything against angrybrony, but being all offended when others do the same to ships you like (along wity the argument you as well had wroye nothing under this pic, using the same logic…)- it just looked bad to me you washed your hands of doing anything, or even arguing with angrybrony, while not only doing nothing, but also responding positively to his stalking, and reacting similarly. I mean angrybrony literally also made a similarly joking quip a bit after you under the same picture , as a part of his agenda against SciTwiShimmer, and other lesbian pairings.
 
Then again, I possibly DID blown this one out of proportion, so I apologize for this one, if it means something.
 
I don’t know how though I could insult you, or you perceive me insulting, aside from the above. I thought I just disagreed with you, and provided counter-arguments, and counter-evidence to your arguments and claims…If you find some insulting, please tell which and why, and I very well may apologize for them – I just want to know if I a to apologize, then for what, and if it’s needed (I apologize here for arguably sounding arrogant, but I just don’t really what of the other stuff could be that insulting..)
 
But I mean, could you address my other points from that comment? I mean like there also being visible toxicity to SunsetSparkle (I mean angrybrony is like a walking evidence for that), or how I discussed there already exists a balance, for example seeing 52% of all pictures on Derpibooru is straight, or how with Rarity and Spike there is the notion of bisexuality (or really many other characters or arguably all excepts strange ones, seeing none is exactly described as 100% straight, 100% gay etc by official material. Also fan works technically take place in parallel words of their own, and have their own canon), sexuality being more complex, as well as Rarity arguably having shippy moments with girls (again refer to my comparing to “Flash x Sunset situations” I broke down , if you disagree) etc.
 
Unless you really find something of those insulting then you can ignore it. Or you can not answer to my points at all - again it’s your decision…and I don’t any authority or right to to force you to do so…XD
 
[EDIT]
 
If I again insulted you here, then it wasn’t intentional - dunno, then it means I’m an idiot or something XD

If this shallow kid can get a girlfriend like Twilight, then screw it, I’m asking my crush out :D.

@BackgroundLoL  
As for some of your other points. There is a big difference between the ship teasing between Flash and Sunset and Rarity and Applejack, for example.
 
Flash and Sunset used to date. The context is totally different. If Rarity and Applejack used to date, then yes, that would also be different. It’s not my fault the writers haven’t gone that step. Neither is it my fault angrybrony was angry at the very idea, and I do not appreciate being lumped in with that, thank you.
 
No, I don’t believe I’m biased. I do believe lesbian ships have it much easier in this fandom, and gay ships get marginalzed. And I also believe what I’ve been doing that has you so riled up can’t be called “flaming” either because it has been pretty harmless, and that you’re overreacting.