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Cadence growing into an adult has nothing to do with anything. Are you suggesting that we should expect an alicorn to have an exceptionally long childhood just because they stay at peak physical age for so long? That makes no sense. They are still ponies, not some other kind of creature. Cadence’s maturation speed is completely irrelevant. It was the same as it would have been for any other pony, and it cannot inform you as to how quickly or slowly she will grow old.
I don’t have to. If you have a problem with people not accepting your headcanon as fact, that’s you. All I said is the show has never stated, shown or implied Twilight HAS to be long-lived just because Luna and Celestia are. Whether they started out as Twilight or they were born as Alicorns doesn’t even matter. They’re them and Twilight’s herself. Even starting out as Unicorns/Pegasi doesn’t guarantee they transformed by the same means, so its not argument one way or the other. And Cadance aging like a normal pony is brought up because its relevant. Otherwise it wouldn’t be brought up at all. Whether you consider it a weak argument or not doesn’t really matter.
Twilight might or might not be immortal. The point is her not being so, isn’t contradicting anything.
Nothing you’ve said actually has any firm basis. The show has not explained how Celestia and Luna came to be alicorns, so for all you know, they have been through the exact same process as Twilight and Cadence. There isn’t any particular reason, in the show, to suppose otherwise. I’ve seen people bring up Cadence on this all the time, and it’s just a really weak argument. Show me an older-looking alicorn who is only 60 years old, and I’ll be convinced.
The argument was that when she’s NOT portrayed as immortal, some people see it as some sort of contradiction to the “canon fact” that she’s immortal. Which is not, and has never been, neither canon nor a fact.
Why are we even arguing this? She’s Immortal in this story, and that’s all that should matter.
Only Celestia and Luna were shown to be long-lived. The 2 absolute rulers of the Pony race who raise the sun and the moon. Cadance’s appereance implied not all Alicorns are of that same standing. She was shown as much younger just a few years earlier despite already being an Alicorn, and since she was getting married, it suggested that she might not be super long-lived like the other two. Twilight becoming an Alicorn meaning automatic immortality was always just a passing possibility, but never an “implied fact” or a “thing”.
What if they time travel but when they warp in they end up telefragging Twilight?
… Do kids even know what telefragging is?
So than they could be there to find a way to prevent Twilight from being slain.
Conclusion: Twilight becomes Celestia’s “successor” after a violent coup, and takes on the title “Queen of Friendship.” She creates a warped and perverted version of the elements of harmony and uses a convenient L Ron Hubbard expy as her mouthpiece.
The original plot of Season 4 was obviously going to have the remaining Mane 6 summon some guy from Texas to stop her.
Of course it’s a “thing.” Twilight is an alicorn now, and alicorns have been shown to be long-lived. It’s pretty natural to expect her to have similar longevity.
I don’t think it has to do with Twilight dying young. Its just about people instantly assuming immortality and talking as if anything was an excuse to cheat her out of it, when in reality it has never been a “thing” in the first place.
@Fwelin
Pretty sure there was an age without princesses before the sisters came along.
Its entirely possible it could go back to that once/when/if all the current ones pass away.
Before Celestia and Luna came along, the ponies were self-led. Obviously, that provided an opening for some problems, but absolute power in Celestia’s hooves has made them vulnerable in different ways. The ponies have become kind of stupid and helpless compared to their ancient predecessors. Twilight could have become someone who placed an emphasis on raising more common ponies to positions of leadership.
Sadly, no such luck at this point. It’s princesses all the way down folks.
I’m not into the whole “Faust is the word of god in MLP”, but I do enjoy learning about behind the scenes stuff. In the end the only thing that’s really canon is what’s shown in the actual episodes.
I’ve always thought that comment was weird. If Twilight was just going to be a successor, and not an immortal alicorn, when what was Celestia going to do after Twilight passed away? Would she become Equestria’s leader again, or would she train a new successor every 80 years?
>Did Faust say anything more on the subject?
Hmmmm, not that I can recall… But then I don’t really follow the Word of Faust much. I just remembered this random screencap of a comment from a while back.
I stand corrected. But then again, successor, but not a princess… She wanted Twilight to become a queen? And since Cadance was not a thing at that time I guess having Celestia and Luna as the only alicorns could have been logical, but now the show has more or less stipulated that all princesses are alicorns, or at least that all alicorns are princesses. Did Faust say anything more on the subject?
Agreed. That tweet came out in a time where people were freaking out over Twilight’s ascension, and her immortality was a big focus of the outrage. So it could have been just a quick phrase to douse the drama. It doesn’t mean anything really, since the show will never show one of the main 6 die.
Lauren Faust herself said that her plans were for Twilight to become Celestia’s successor, from that you could infer that she was always meant to become an alicorn in the same way as the royal sisters.
None of the alicorns are immortal, if you want to get real technical about it. And McCarthy’s word doesn’t mean a whole lot, in this context. Twilight’s an alicorn, and we’ve seen that alicorns can live a very long time. There isn’t much reasonable proof of her being shorter lived than the others.
It’s weird to me how some people seem attached to the idea of Twilight dying young or whatever. Kinda morbid how much people obsess over that.
Meganahan McCartney confirmed as Yellow Diamond.
“stealing my immortality”?
When exactly has it been stated taht Twilight is immortal? Cause I’m pretty sure that no only has this never been mentioned, bu also that Megan herself said that she wouldn’t outlive her friends.
So no, there’s nothing suggesting she’s immortal. Celestia and Luna being so doesn’t guarantee Twilight and Cadance are as well, since they became Alicorns instead of being born that way.
It’s true that you can take the example of a widow or a widower that will let themselves perish after the death of their significant other, they can’t live without them, so my stance may very well be too rigid. But I still stand by it, because that sort of depression happens when death is imminent, for example when a loved one is sick and you know it will take their life. When you can’t escape it. Thinking too much about death is not healthy, and can be a sign of mental illness.
But I will retract my statement that the “Immortality Blues” theory is kinda dumb. It’s just another headcanon that I disagree with. We can’t postulate on how Twilight would really act when confronted with immortality (expect if we get an episode on the matter), so this is pure headcanon territory. Which is by definition presumptuous, on both sides.
Oh, I’m personally all for immortality! Well, functional immortality. True immortality would be horrible, though that’s because you’d outlive the universe, not any individuals.
I’m merely pointing out that that is one way Twilight could take the whole thing, and it shouldn’t be automatically discredited because people have a weird hateboner towards any negative thought on the matter of immortality.
Also, would like to remind the world that nihilism is a legitimate philosophical school, and not just a state of being.