@wrabbit
 
@Cyborg_pony
 
Godammit.

@wrabbit  
Incredibly sad.

@Cyborg_pony  
Pretty sad, isn’t it?

@wrabbit  
I’ve already seen articles saying how Women woman is a “great success for women”
 
As I said once before:
 
Imagine having to validate yourself through a fucking superhero movie.

@Keith Mowz  
Oh, believe me. The SJWs will interpret it as a feminist success.

@Kuairu  
And it turned out to be legitimately good. Can’t wait to see how they’ll manage to completely misinterpret it’s success.

And then the Wonder Woman movie became a reality in 2017…

@TheDog  
Chaotic Evil, even.

@Darth Sonic
 
No he doesn’t. He would have used it if he did, because his plan for Superman is for if Superman became evil. And Joker is pretty much the definition of ‘evil’.

@WM-R  
Can’t argue with that!

@TheDog
 
To be fair, I don’t expect Batman (or most other heroes) to just stand there and watch someone, even as monstrous as the Joker, be shot in cold blood.
 
Still really annoyed that no one else is willing to try to off him, though. If, for example, Joker’s corpse washed up in Gotham Bay, Batman might be willing to track down the killer (because a murder is a murder), but I’m sure most everybody else would be willing to let it be.
 
@Darth Sonic
 
I appreciate the difference, it’s just the fact that Batman will fight tooth and nail to save Joker that irks me. I know he’s all, “I save everyone,” but still.
 
If, for example, Joker contacted him begging for help, you know Bats would be more than willing to help. And of course, Joker’d double-cross him, no doubt kill whoever was targeting him, and then go off and kill some more.

@TheDog  
Pretty sure Batman has plans on how best to kill the Joker as well. Planning and doing are two separate things.

@WM-R
 
Hell, in a Punisher/Batman comic Punisher has a gun pointed at the Joker’s forehead, dead to rights and about to pull the trigger… And then Batman jumps Punisher to keep him from shooting Joker, and even tells Joker to run! That’s right, the Batman saved the clown’s worthless life from a well-deserved bullet to the head!
 
And yet, as Tower of Babel proved, he sits around planning how to kill all of his fellow heroes! He refuses to kill a known genocidal maniac in Joker while thinking up how best to kill SUPERMAN!

@Darth Sonic
 
Oh, I get Batman having his code and fearing he’ll fall too far if he takes someone’s like except really, really dire circumstances. It’s just… well, try telling that to, say, those parents in Arkham Knight whose kids were butchered, then their corpses sewn together like jigsaw puzzles.
 
It’s the same issue I had with Spider-Man choosing to save Doctor Octopus when he tried to flash-fry the planet. Meanwhile, his friend Silver Sable was drowning in another room, and he chose to save Ock instead of going back for her. They always choose to save the bad guy, and then later feel all bad when said bad guy massacres a bunch of people again.
 
Also, to be clear I’m talking about unashamed murderers here. Someone like the Shocker or Calculator or Captain Cold, who are willing to kill but don’t do it for laughs I don’t mind quite as much.
 
@Background Human
 
Never mind an orderly at Arkham, what about a police officer sick of this bastard always getting out decding to put a bullet in Joker’s head, or a henchman realising he needs to take Joker out before he gets taken out instead?
 
Hell, why isn’t there a “Shoot on sight” order on Joker? I remember that Red Hood movie, where Joker tries to burn Black Mask, his secretary and a bunch of other crime bosses alive while standing on some armoured car. I was screaming, “Where the hell are your snipers?! Shoot the SOB already!” at the screen.

@Darth Sonic  
Batman I can understand. Guy’s got mental problems of his own. What about the orderlies at Arkham? One guy with a scalpel and a sense of civic duty could fix Gotham’s supervillain problem real quick.

@Darth Sonic  
Geeze, did I muddle this comment…
 
@WM-R  
The idea behind Batman not killing the Joker is that Batman genuinely feels like that if he kills anyone in anything but the most ultra-dire circumstances (and by that, I mean “Darkseid is about to delete the universe” levels of dire), he’ll snap and become Ben Affleck become something akin to the punisher but worse. It ties into the theme that Batman may well be just a moral code away from a cell in Arkham Asylum.

@Darth Sonic
 
That might be true, but it doesn’t change the fact that someone should’ve put a bullet in the Joker’s head a long time ago, the same way Thor and T’Challa should try to kill Doom the moment they know he’s still alive.
 
It’s just jarring to me when Batman actively tries to save Joker despite knowing that Joker will kill again and again and again, while Marvel’s heroes will join forces with Magneto and Doom despite that whole ‘attempted genocide’ and ‘mutilation of innocent civilians’ thing.

@WM-R  
The difference between the Joker and the other two characters listed here is that the Joker of today is that this is the character the Joker always fundamentally was, with his “harmless clown” persona of the sixties being the deviation. That’s the exact opposite of the other two characters.

@WM-R  
That sounds interesting. I’ll have to look into that. I really miss the Chris Claremont days of X-Men. Things were so much more fun back then.

@wrabbit
 
I’ve been enjoying the game Avengers Academy because of how comparatively carefree it is. For example, Spider-Gwen and Spider-Man being all awkward with each other because of how she couldn’t save her Peter and he couldn’t save his Gwen. And Gwen’s determined not to let things drag her down, and she’s going to make sure Peter won’t either no matter how much he tries.
 
You know, something cute and uplifting to remind myself that there was a reason I fell in love with there characters.

@RyuSpike  
It really is. :D

@wrabbit  
I like it cause the art is adorable.

@WM-R  
Sigh. Yeah, the fun is getting sucked out of hero comics. I’m thinking of taking up Gwenpool, though. It seems to balance the violence with fun and a dash of innocence.

@TheDog
 
@thps48
 
Wait, so there was a reboot, and now they’re rebooting the reboot? Primus.
 
@wrabbit
 
And the villains are even worse. I mean, seriously, why are guys like Joker, Magneto and Dr Doom still alive? When Joker was about amusement, okay, fine. Magneto wanted mutants to have power over humans, that’s okay, the guy survived the Holocaust so naturally he’d be a bit leery of one group of people having power over him again. Doom having an honour code and occasionally showing nobility like repaying favours, great.
 
But now they’re so monstrous I don’t understand why no one just straight up kills them. Joker must kill, like, at least a couple dozen people everytime he breaks out of Arkham. Magneto once tried to march the population of New York into ovens, Holocaust-style. Doom invaded both Wakanda and Asgard, and horribly mutilated people from both places. These are all crimes where every hero or justice agency on the planet should be dedicated to putting them into the ground permanently (and this especially so with Doom, since Black Panther and Thor are supposed to be royalty who’d never forgive crimes against their people).

@thps48  
I ignore pretty much anything Marvel printed after the Age of Apocalypse crossover. All the heroes just don’t seem very… heroic anymore.