@PeppermintSwirl

@TexasUberAlles
Today I learned that being against authoritarian governments is racist. Thank you for your wonderful wisdom

@PeppermintSwirl
I can afford to, as bigly as we fuck things up Texas is still better than you. Sooner or later I’ll convince the ignorant racist shitheads to all go live in Oklahoma.

@TexasUberAlles
Fascinating response, for someone who claims to be Texas “Uber Alles” you sure as heck seem to hate your own people.

Hey mods, am I allowed to call someone insane if they post something which is clearly and unambiguously far beyond the bounds of sanity, or do I have to be circumspect about it?

@TexasUberAlles
General reminder it’s only treason if you lose. The US today is a corrupt tax-mongering scheme designed to drain the citizens themselves of their money and right to liberty and happiness. A modern Confederacy would be socialist in practice. The exact same conditions that created the USSR and China as we know today exists in the South.

@Background Pony #84D6
Kinda rude, hanging a banner of treason next to a symbol of patriotism.

@Ridley Wolf
I too have a Confederate flag. I display it with the Betsy Ross.

Still proudly celebratin’ the ol’ “runner-up”. The second-best half of America, with a “participant” medal to prove it.

@liquidsodanium  
An appropriate comment, since going by the score that’s just one more fight you’re destined to lose.

Here’s my upvote to counter the southphobes :3

@Ridley Wolf  
They would have disagreed with you on that one.

@Ridley Wolf  
The Confederates were Americans, too  
Yes, and? This is why our civil war was by far the costliest we’ve ever fought; excepting foreign mercenaries and laborers, every life lost was American. Kind of a good argument against the concept in general.

@TexasUberAlles  
The Confederates were Americans, too.

That’s not the Equestrian flag…
 
…Son of a bitch turned on me.
 
SUNSET! Wanna be a main character!?

@TheDeinonychus  
And the right to free speech does not come with a concurrent right to freedom from criticism. If someone insists on wrapping themselves in a symbol of racism and treason, they don’t have any “right to not be offended” when someone else points out the racism and treason that symbol represents.

@TexasUberAlles  
There is a right to free speech in this country.  
There is not, however, a right to not be offended.  
If you disagree, then by all means, start a war over it.

@Rareblood9746  
Uh, no– pointing out the racist implications inherent in the iconography of a nation which was literally founded solely for the perpetuation of racial slavery isn’t “playing the race card”, it’s “actually being honest about an inherently racist symbol”. The only practical difference between wrapping oneself in the Confederate flag and insisting there’s no racism involved anywhere and wrapping oneself in the Nazi flag and insisting there’s no racism involved is that the war fought to put the Confederate flag in the dirt where it belongs killed at least three times as many Americans.
 
While disengenuously trying to blame Africa for the horrors wrought upon it by European colonialism may be a favored pastime among certain kinds of people, it is a completely irrelevant and frankly amateurish attempt at distraction from the issue at hand, which is the racism that is intrinsic to and indivisible from Confederate iconography.
 
He never had any plans on getting rid of slavery  
Rote historical revisionism won’t save you here, either– Lincoln’s attitudes on abolition changed over the course of his political career, and have been rather quite thoroughly documented; by the time of his Presidency, he personally favored abolition, but took his role as President seriously enough that he would have kept slavery if it had meant keeping The Union intact. Congress disagreed.
 
@Ridley Wolf  
my neighbor’s got a Jeff Gordon flag  
How many slaves does Jeff Gordon own? How many hundreds of thousands of American deaths is he responsible for, and how many millions of American lives has he completely ruined by starting a war of suicidal attrition? The answers may have something to do with why that’s an absurdly false equivalence.

@TexasUberAlles  
Nice to see you drop by, TUA. And great to see you playing that race card.  

 
And you can trust me on this, I’m a Illinoisan, and being from the “Land of Lincoln” Lincoln isn’t as much as a “Freedom Fighter” as everyone claims he is. He never had any plans on getting rid of slavery. The North wasn’t the “free states” they were just as much into having slaves as the south. Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia (which became a state after seceding from Virginia in 1863 to go back to the Union) had slaves and they were part of the Union. And even in Washington, DC had slavery (although to be fair, they abolished it in 1862).
 
Also, if you hate the Confederacy so much because of slavery, then your blood must really boil whenever you think about Africa. Africa is the main source of slavery, not those “damn mean evil racist southern white supremacist”. If Africa hadn’t literally sold themselves out, Slavery would have never been a thing. And unlike the Confederacy, who ended Slavery in 1865, Africa is still slave trading now. And yet, I don’t see you going on these Africa related photos on here bitching how they sold their own people for profit.

I fly my rebel flag because I’m a proud Southerner.  
I recognize that it offends some people, and I regret that they judge me as something I’m not because I choose to to display a symbol they consider offensive.
 
Honestly, I’m a little annoyed by people who think they have the right to tell me to take it down.  
When did society get to the point that the act of being offended gives you more rights than the person who offended you?
 
Hell, my neighbor’s got a Jeff Gordon flag that offends the hell out of me, but I would never ask him to take it down.

Some facts about the 1st National Flag of the CSA and the Battle Flag.  
Like the flag of the US, the seven stars on the blue field represent the original 7 succeeding states.  
After the first few battles of the Civil War, the consensus among many Confederate generals was that the flag of the CSA was too similar to the flag of the Union. This wasn’t about aesthetics, but rather the similarities caused confusion on the battle field. In battle, generals would use flags to keep track of units and signal to troops. At a distance the Confederate and Union flags were so similar, soldiers would often fall back to the wrong battle lines.  
The Confederate Battle Flag was designed based on a flag flown at the Carolina secessionist convention, which in turn was based on the St George’s Cross (or Latin Cross).  
The St George’s Cross is typically displayed upright, however it was decided to emblazon the battle flag’s cross on it’s side. This was done to make the flag less offensive to non-Christians, in particularly Jews.  
While the Confederate government initially rejected the proposal to replace the national flag, the ‘Southern Cross’ was adopted as the Confederacy’s battle flag, to be flown in times of war. The second and third national flags however did incorporate the battle flag in their deign, since it proved to be so popular. It was also adopted as the 2nd Confederate Naval Jack, but with a lighter blue cross.  
After the Civil War, the Confederate battle flag was widely adopted by veteran groups.  
In a national survey in 2015 across all races, 57% of Americans had the opinion that the Confederate Battle Flag represented Southern pride rather than racism. However, poll results from only the South yielded a completely different result - 75% of Southern whites described the flag as a symbol of pride, while 75% of Southern blacks said the flag represented racism.

Nah, buck that noise.  

 
Rareblood9746  
Nothing says Throw Back Thursday like celebrating a symbol of slavery and treason against the United States :3  
FTFY
 
Here’s the thing, Bo– it’s entirely possible to be proud of a heritage that includes inhumanity and horror; you can trust me on this, I’m a Texan, and boy howdy has Texas done some awful shit over the years, including stupidly joining the Confederacy. The way you do that without coming across as a racist duckhole is by acknowledging the sins of the past and highlighting all the ways your people are better than that now. And okay, maybe if you’re from Missouri or Mississippi that’s not so easy even in the 21st Century, but belligerently promoting and celebrating the iconography and symbolism of a racist past with only a token “I’m Not A Racist But–” tacked on the end like it’s a magic charm of Protection Against Criticism sure as hell ain’t the way to do it. If you’re proud of who you are and where you’re from, you throw that awful past out there so that everyone can see just how far you’ve come and how hard you fought to get here and leave all that behind, you don’t dance around the obvious implications like anyone who has a problem with it is being “oversensitive” or whatever. Plenty of people in Germany are proud of the bravery their fathers and grandfathers showed fighting in the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine under the Nazi flag, but anyone who flies that flag with pride is rightly seen as a deviant who supports racist ideology.

@A-T-S  
I never got why you guys always pull the race card for everything. It doesn’t help stop racism. By all things, it helps racism spread.
 

@Ridley Wolf  
yeah, that’s probably the smart thing to do
 
can’t stop the fact that people will continue to buy into all this biased media and be unable to make rational thoughts of their own, so might as well ignore them

@Ridley Wolf  
Considering that there’s people saying citizens of the former CSA states have nothing to be proud of…