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That would be fantastic.
With her rediscovering her good side, I’m hoping we get a small flashback of Sunset when she was a young filly and Celestia’s student. :D
And it didn’t help in the least.
I sent you a message explaining. :)
Okay, most of that kinda checks out, but where does Tirek come in?
You do have a point. I had forgotten about that first picture and Celestia’s positive comment about Sunset’s ’potential for good even though she strayed. Thanks for pointing that out :)
That definitely helps us grasp the new her as quite real now that she has her ‘eyes wide open’ so to speak.
@PonyPon
Oh when Sunset is trying to recreate the events in reverse, it truly IS terribly confusing.
But when you think of the original potential context that Sunset was reading about, it sounds no different then an old Ultima game. You, a normal person, are teleported into a land where magic and magic items are real. You are given access to a sacred power, and if you stay pass many trials and test your worth there for a long time, you are basically a god among men. In C.S. Lewis books, you are often made kings and queens as well. However, once back in the real world, almost all power accessible to you are gone. Only on rare occasions of the trope ‘entering a magical world’, does it ever effect you physically to the point where your not even human, but its not unheard of. Of course, in the case of the Pevensie cousin, Eusitice, he actually DID transform for a while.
This was all useless information until Tirek entered the picture, if you understand my meaning.
I think you’re forgetting something:
Also, remember how in the comic, Celestia said that she had thought that she’d seen compassion and sincerity in Sunset? Early Sunset is hinted to have been someone who unconsciously exhibited these tendencies, but repressed them as time went on. As such, I don’t find her new-and-improved behavior to be so shocking.
In fact, the very process you’re describing sounds terribly confusing.
You’re gonna have to tell me what that is, because I don’t exactly follow what you’re saying.
I’m aware of the novel, but I doubt Eakin was. Regardless of the many similarities, the two stories are distinctly different. I just find the coincidence interesting.
Oh that? Well once I found out what she was doing, I catagorized those traits to ‘failed ascension’ tropes.
Y’know when the darkness of their hearts is abnormally effecting their body, their mind becomes unhinged due to the trauma, etc…its seen in a lot of anime and ‘2nd forms of the final boss’ in games, right before they ressurect as a perfect evil being now in control of their power.
I wouldn’t call it a ‘specific’ spell considering Sunset described the method in the movie, but described the goal of the spell in her backstory comic. They intentionally kept the two pieces of the puzzle separate.
In the comic, Sunset is partially in hysterics in rage when she finds the spell. Partially because of the sheer enormity of the secret she discovered, and partially that Celestia was holding her back by not showing her this magic.
She throws a forbidden history textbook ‘Canterlot History Vol II’ at Celestia, which Celestia deflects but makes the princess look absolutley livid. Sunset opens it up and she clearly states that it describes the process of which using the mirror along with, revealed in the movie, something related to the elements of harmony, one could become an alicorn just as powerful as Celestia or Luna.
I can’t confirm the title of the history volume, if it had one, but there was certainly one book that she was searching through that had a title that 1) was completely unlike all the other books she procured from the restricted section, and 2) connects all the dots on this spell.
Only the 2 year thing isn’t mentioned, but I’m guessing just entering a portal with an element of harmony isn’t enough to activate the spell and make you a god. There must have been SOME reason why she left to live in a magicless world for more then 2 years. Perhaps it required a full portal cycle? (shrug)
But… the very idea that using the human-to-Equestria mirror and becoming a Celestia-level alicorn was in a history textbook, the VERY second textbook of Canterlot which was built and ruled by the unicorns before Celestia and Luna took over….
That is a huge implication.
Yeah, Edge of Tomorrow was based off a 2004 Japanese novel called All You Need Is Kill, so if anything, Eakin took that story’s premise.
What?
I meant when she put the crown on. Before that, she taunted Twilight, saying she didn’t know that the crown works differently here. And people took her tears and bone-headed plan afterwards as evidence of additional corruption.
This is the first time I’m hearing about some specific spell she was trying to use, where was that from?
I completely understand what your saying, but given that Sunset had basically zero dimensions to her character in the first movie beyond 1-dimensional ambition…the second she started exploring those other dimensions and other emotions via the elements, all bets are off.
We literally have no claim to her real personality. And psychologically, adults have far more difficulty changing who they are. Set in their old ways, so to speak. This is different for Sunset. It really is not that surprising she would want to distance herself from her former self in personality so tremendously given her age and her circumstances.
“It doesn’t help that the idea that the element of magic ’works differently’ in this world and becomes a corrupting influence when worn by the wrong person is often perpetuated.”
Oh.
Oh no, you got that all wrong. Her transformation and emotions had NOTHING to do with the elements of harmony’s purifying spell.
Sunset was trying to replicate a spell described in Canterlot History Vol II, where one lives in another dimension for 2 or so years and comes in contact with either the element of magic or its source magic to become a godly alicorn like Celestia and Luna. It turned her into a demon, however, cause her heart was too corrupt.
Calling it now, the Elements are going to turn out to be sociopathic manipulators like in the Hard Reset trilogy. Eakin predicted Edge of Tomorrow perfectly, why not this too?
I would agree actually. Her character has done almost a complete 180 from what the previews have shown. Still though, I very much like it. Hopefully her new persona is something great for her character overall.
Look, I only say that because this new Sunset, while great, just feels…off.
Luna, I’m willing to say isn’t brainwashed because she is regretful after the fact, and her goals have changed, but her personality hasn’t been altered as much. She’s still jealous of her sister at times, and still emotionally abrasive at others, so I buy that reform.
But this Sunset is just completely different from the one I ‘fell in love with’, so to speak, so it’s still kind of awkward. It feels like the bitchy yet kind of alluring girl was carted off after her breakdown and came back a smile on her face and stitches in her temple.
It doesn’t help that the idea that the element of magic ‘works differently’ in this world and becomes a corrupting influence when worn by the wrong person is often perpetuated. Maybe whatever force does that also switches the normal ‘get better’ function to ‘brainwash’. It’s a gamble to say they don’t do anything we can think of.
I don’t know, maybe her bitchitude and ambition in the first movie was pretty much all she had in terms of character, and she feels empty without it so far.
Maybe it’s just me.
This popped into my head, and considering its Sunset this is the last thing you’d think of.