@PwnyPony  
He can’t, as he’s a duck.

@Background Pony  
“in 95% of the developed world it isn’t.” There is one, and one particular nation only, where it carries this connotation.”  
Stop pulling statistics out of your ass.

@Background Pony
 
@Background Pony  
One particular artist appears to believe so.  
Unfortunately the mods always seem to side with the least intelligent and most blanket available option to them  
Just look at how the fluffy shit went down months ago. This only serves to show how little they learned since from such authoritarian measures.  
@kassarc16  
in 95% of the developed world it isn’t. There is one, and one particular nation only, where it carries this connotation.  
Perhaps we should instead merely ban the IPs of those offended in the same way everyone bans Russia for spamming? It seems the less damaging blanket in the long run, after all. Instead of banning content to be consumed by all, you ban from nations which would be offended by that content. (or perhaps just auto-hide based upon IP locations)
 
@kassarc16  
mainstream media uses liberal in that fashion too, should we ban them from saying the word? And again, you are putting a single country and its colonies before the entire rest of ‘the world,’ as if it is not only universally known that way but also universally has its own equivalent in each and every single language. This is why no one trusts lower-case l liberals anymore, they offer no solutions aside from increasingly draconian censorship. You have it your way, the entire world will be like Germany.
 
@Clover the Clever  
>implying /mlp/ is the only place on the internet that abhors unnecessary censoring.

@Background Pony  
Ah, faggot appears to be canonical. So that. Don’t think we need an alias, I’m just being tired and silly.

@Clover the Clever  
>“OP is a fag, vulgar”
 
Is the tag “OP is a fag” or “OP is a faggot”? Or are they aliased?

@Background Pony
 
Here, since last week

Post from Dear Leader inkommen! This post largely is my own opinion but the last bit is a consensus derived via debate within the admin team.
 
This isn’t /mlp/ and we don’t go by /mlp/‘s moral code here.
 
That said we try not to have too much of a moral code. We encourage people to be nice and not constantly attack each other, in jest or otherwise, and we limit content based on the laws of the lands in which we primarily operate. That’s pretty much it. The “Be excellent to each other” rule informs the others; the other rules of the site are mostly clarifications or technical detail regarding laws, or clarifying the intent of the site. Back when Derpibooru launched, Rule #0 was the only rule - we added the others because we had to. The fact we host quite a lot of content most people find objectionable - rape, abuse, death/grimdark, foalcon, etc - should be evidence enough of this, even in the context of purely fictional characters.
 
The whole ‘op is a faggot’ debate boils down to allowing some people to post image macros (that is, typically simple edits of screenshots or other artworks) which have text on that some people may find offensive, particularly out of the context of /mlp/. It’s easy to lose sight of the fact that /mlp/‘s (and 4chan’s) userbase have a very different idea of offence compared to the internet at large. Obviously there’s healthy overlap between the two communities - out of the core administrators/site owners, almost all of us were /b/rothers and some of us still frequent /b/, /tg/ and /mlp/, so we do get the mentality.
 
But to get back to the point - should Derpibooru host image macros that some people find offensive? Well, we don’t really have a problem with that. Some people will find anything offensive, so it’d be insane for us to censor everything anyone found offensive. However we do remove attack material - this is covered by rule zero and clarified in rule five. Material which is intended to attack or defame an individual or group. Almost all “op is a faggot” macros clearly fall into this category; it’s not directly attacking a specific individual when posted as an image, though, which has lead to this confusion I think - most people posting them don’t think of them as attack images, and most people looking at them being deleted don’t either, and that’s understandable.
 
Given that people evidently feel strongly about it - and I can somewhat understand that, though I never personally felt the need to shout “op is a fag” on /b/ - we’re going to allow “op is a fag” images to be posted so long as they are tagged properly with the minimum tagset of “op is a fag, vulgar” to allow users to filter the images out.
 
We will still not permit users to attack uploaders or topic creators in the forums or image comments with “op is a fag[got]” posts as these are considered personal attacks. We will not permit use of “op is a fag” macros in these contexts either. Tagging random images with “op is a fag” will also still earn you a ban. This part of our policy has not changed and will not change, and we continue to ban users who violate this rule frequently, and that’s not changing either. We’ll host the stuff and discussions on/around the material but using it as attack material on the site will still get you a ban. Like I said at the beginning - this isn’t /mlp/ and it is not Ponibooru.
 
This is the best compromise position we could settle on and we hope that users who feel strongly about this will appreciate we do not want to encourage the perpetuation of what basically boils down to using homosexuality as an insult. We may change this decision in future if it looks like it’s causing too many issues within the community; this is effectively on a trial basis, and we’ll be keeping a close eye on it.

@Background Pony  
No, and like I said, even in the way you’ve presented your position we still discuss things.

@The Smiling Pony  
Whether or not a rule change is good has nothing I do with who suggested it. If I suggested that lolicon should remain banned in a really obnoxious way, would you unban it?

@Background Pony  
Rules are made in the best interest of the community, and are subject to change. Acting in the interest of those that intentionally start drama is not something we see as leading to the site’s best interest.
 
And I dare say you’d be surprised at how “petty” we actually are. Ideally you could discuss things in a more adult manner, but I realize that that is almost asking the impossible. Either way, we are not immovable or infallible, and when issues present themselves, even is such a churlish manner, we actually do discuss things.

@Background Pony  
*against

@The Smiling Pony  
I see. So rules aren’t made based on what’s best for the site, but out of petty retribution agains people who call you out on your faggotry.

@professor_of_hoers  
Remember, kids! Something is only “truly” offensive if it upsets the ones in charge, in which case it is objectively and unquestionably Offensive™.
 
@The Smiling Pony  
Wait, there’s a forum? Where, and since when?
 
@professor_of_hoers  
The image gets 1000 downvotes, and that’s fine. If you really want to aid in the hosting of images, don’t censor more than you have to. Banning loli makes sense if the site is hosted somewhere where it’s illegal. But if someone is offended or upset by certain images, that’s what the filters are for.

I’m fairly new as a mod and I don’t get to make any really big decisions. So, that should be known outright.
 
I came from PB, a place that had pretty much no moderation and it was a place where everyone could pretty much act however they wanted and it was, like most things, a mixed bag.
 
Sometimes it was incredibly fun and liberating and sometimes it was rather nasty, hateful, and quite frankly disgusting. I think there’s a place on the internet for just about any type of behavior so long as it’s not actively victimizing or harassing someone. So long as nobody is being exploited or outright harmed then I pretty much believe everything is fair game.
 
However, this is a personally owned website with it’s own atmosphere, community, and issues. No matter what the people that run this site here do, someone is going to be upset. You allow OP is a Fag, then people get offended or upset. You don’t allow it? People get offended or upset. You allow people to post pictures of Hitler ponies putting furries in a big oven while belting out “YIFF IN ZE HELL!” and you get 1000 downvotes. However, you disallow that sort of thing and you get a dedicated group of people saying their rights have been downtrodden.
 
This is AN IMPERFECT site with (at least speaking for myself) imperfect mods doing the best job they can to make everything run as smoothly as possible and make everyone as happy as possible.
 
We will NEVER please everyone. It’s not going to happen. However, our goal is facilitate ONE THING beyond all others; to provide a home for the most diverse, high quality art available within the fandom and to have it properly cataloged, tagged, displayed, and to make sure artist credit is given.
 
That more than anything else is our goal. Everything else is just side crap that has to be dealt with.
 
We want to make this place great for everyone involved but it will never be perfect for everyone either. So, all decision, so far as I am concerned revolve around whether or not we’re making this site as accessible, friendly, functional, and helpful as possible.
 
PS: THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION AND IN NO WAY REFLECTS SOME SORT OF MOD-WIDE SENTIMENT. THEIR OPINIONS ARE THEIR OWN

Seems like the PC police. “I’ll tell you who can be made fun of!”

BP makes me sad

@Background Pony  
Disagreement is one thing, this is another; ie the overbearing examples of how wrong we are. Not to mention that this is not the part of the site this goes into; we have a forum set up to discuss site issues. This is just another “wha, look at those faggot derpibooru mods” attempts to stir some drama.

@kassarc16  
Obviously it’s not just used for “harassment and hate”, as the images in question are lighthearted jabs.
 

 
@The Smiling Pony  
Someone disagreeing with a rule makes you less likely to change it? You’re actively trying to go against the wishes of your userbase? Derpibooru is looking less and less appealing compared to the competition.

@Background Pony  
You’re just going to have accept that we have a rather strong sentiment against that term here. Making a fuss about it like this isn’t going to do anything change that other than annoy us and further cement our position against any change in the future.

@Background Pony  
Ok, moron, get this. The term you love so much is not just offensive, it is also used for the sole purpose of harassment and hate. Whether or not it’s offensive doesn’t matter. Harassment and hate break site rules, so it doesn’t belong here. Your opinion DOES NOT MATTER if mods and admins say otherwise.

what the heck does honkey mean

Oh good, someone responded to my questio-…
 
 
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Sometimes I’d love to take my dick out at 7-11. They don’t generally let me do that though even though it’s a perfectly natural part of my anatomy.

As an African-American, I hereby request that >>247554 be deleted. It contains a hateful slur towards my people, and I’m Offended™ regardless of context or intent.

@professor_of_hoers
 
That’s fucking retarded. No, my enjoyment is  
not predicated on calling people fags. My enjoyment of the show is also not based on Derpy Hooves. That’s not the goddamn point. The POINT is standing against the pussification of our culture by censoring anything that offends people.