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@Background Pony #11AE  
Lol, I was right. You’re attempting to just handwave it away.  
Well, sonny, someone pointing out fallacies in your way of thinking is not whataboutism.
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Is this the part where someone points out to you that all your arguments also apply to rape and murder pictures and you handwave it away and the circle begins anew?
just removing one evil ideology and replacing it with another evil ideology you don’t have a problem with, it just laughable thinking at best
 
Uh, no. That’s not how meaningfully discussing a problematic topic works. There’s this neat word for what you guys who can’t come up with good counterarguments re the actual topic at hand are trying to do here in order to continue excusing Nazism, and you might wanna look it up:  
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whataboutism
 
@Hisexpliciteditor  
Filter existence, you realize that you know?
 
“Just gonna close my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears! La la la la! If I, personally, don’t see it or hear it, it doesn’t exist and isn’t a problem, right? RIGHT?!?”
Hisexpliciteditor
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What kinds of things do you want to have people saying in your fandom and on your platform(s)?
 
“Filter existence, you realize that you know?”  
Do you really want to welcome in people saying things that trivialize and glorify Nazism? Because, I could be mistaken here, but it looks like you want to welcome, or at least make excuses for, people who are trying to trivialize and glorify Nazism.
I really like how the amount of gymnastics of saying “nazism is bad.” I’m not putting it out their for the high heaven, I’m not glorify it. You are and those hit pieces that they called “journalists”. When I see a nazi drawing here i’m just like “whatever, probably some RP character that I don’t know about” and I move on and never see it again. It just looked ridiculous to think like that. They are soo many political ideologies on this platform that are not just nazism you know? just removing one evil ideology and replacing it with another evil ideology you don’t have a problem with, it just laughable thinking at best.
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@Background Pony #11AE  
Is this the part where someone points out to you that all your arguments also apply to rape and murder pictures and you handwave it away and the circle begins anew?
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@Hisexpliciteditor  
No, I’m not “giving a drawing more power than actual people.” I’m saying that drawings mean things. Because they do. People say things with drawings. What kinds of things do you want to have people saying in your fandom and on your platform(s)?  
Do you really want to welcome in people saying things that trivialize and glorify Nazism? Because, I could be mistaken here, but it looks like you want to welcome, or at least make excuses for, people who are trying to trivialize and glorify Nazism.
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@Background Pony #11AE  
What credit? You’re literally given a drawing more power, then the actually people that will do physical harm regardless. This is like me blaming gangsta rap for the increasing amount of black people doing crime. Due to their song lyrics promoting drug, violence, sex, and guns.
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I’m not entirely certain that this boop is consensual.
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@Setsugekka  
Yeah, I know, right? Wish I could, but I’d rather not have the harassment that basically guaranteed to come from this otherwise.
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@Hisexpliciteditor  
I don’t think it’s “projecting” to say that a drawing of a banana invokes certain widely understood ideas and qualities inherent to bananas.  
Similarly, it’s not “projecting” to say that drawing of a Nazi is pretty reasonably interpretable as carrying the baggage inherent to Nazis and Nazism.  
“You’re just projecting” in this case is really just you obtusely pretending that pictures don’t mean things. They do. And you know they do. C’mon, man, give us all more credit than this.
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@Background Pony #11AE  
Honestly I’d be more inclined to give you more credit, if you wouldn’t hide behind a BP!
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Implying that there’s no such thing as a reasonably widespread consensus on certain moral ideas like, “Hey, maybe genocide is wrong.”
There is.
 
Their is. But here you are projecting your morals into a drawing you don’t like.
Background Pony #11AE
  1. Not having Nazi images on this platform isn’t “censorship.” That’s a red herring that gets thrown a lot by people who don’t understand what real censorship is. Nothing would stop you from creating Nazi images or whatever other expression you feel like, and nothing would stop you from posting it in whatever other venue will have it. Not letting you set up a soapbox on my front lawn so you can scream at people who pass by does not mean I’m “censoring” you.  
  2. It’s a drawing contributing to trivializing, glorifying, and supporting an idea that there is a strong moral consensus is really shitty, and is profoundly offensive and hurtful to many people for very real and very good reasons. This is not just the empty “video games cause violence” argument. This is an actual thing that has hurt many real people in real ways, whether you choose to see it or not.
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@Background Pony #11AE  
a) So Is censorship  
b) Its a drawing. Nobody dies through them. This is just the “Video games cause violence” argument again
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@FrecklesFanatic  
Implying that there’s no such thing as a reasonably widespread consensus on certain moral ideas like, “Hey, maybe genocide is wrong.”  
There is.
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@Background Pony #11AE  
*worthwile to you  
Morality is not a science, you can not use the scientific method on it. Something you consider good might be seen as horrid by someone else. Your not the arbiter of right and wrong, no one is.
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@Tinandel  
That’s the thing, though: if you’re so open-minded that you just give equal credence to every idea, no matter how bad and no matter how discredited it has clearly already proven to be time and again, just because of some rigid, unthinking adherence to a blind principle of, “welp, better just give EVERYTHING equal time and equal platforming,” then you’re not doing any critical thinking.
 
Not all ideas are of equal value. Not everything anyone wants to say should be given the full weight of forcing it to be platformed anywhere and everywhere. Legitimate astronomy and astrophysics college courses don’t give “equal time” or “equal weight” to flat earth nonsense out of some misguided sense that “someone believes it, so I guess we all have to listen and respect it, no matter how obviously wrong it is.”
 
I am not saying by any means that we should be blindly conceding content control to authority. I’m saying that maybe we should think about what content is actually worthwhile. We should maybe know better than to just accept certain absolutely awful things, and we maybe should - thoughtfully - give authority some permission to deal with some of those awful, disruptive, valueless things so that we don’t have to just live with them crapping up our house forever.
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@Background Pony #11AE  
And do you think that’s what’s going to happen?
 
All I know is, when we look to authorities to do our critical thinking for us, the world gets worse.
 
I do think the left and the right have one thing in common: We both thought we were past all this.
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@FrecklesFanatic  
You’re saying that like I’ve even read the article. I haven’t. I base my opinion of a community on first-hand observation of its works. Surely you can agree that this is the most fair way, yes?
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@Background Pony #11AE  
Maybe you shouldnt let clickbait articles from people that dont care for the fandom or did even the most basic research let decide what we can and cant do.
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the days when you could counter bad ideas with your good ones, instead of just trying to silence anyone you didn’t like.
 
Yeah, that’d be ideal I suppose, but everything has a cost unfortunately, including endless debate with people pushing malicious ideas in bad faith. How many times do you let the same bad ideas run their course over and over and over again creating the burden of dealing with false controversies over what should be settled questions before you finally do something to just be done with the hassle for good?
Tinandel

I really miss the days when telling people to grow some thicker skin was the common-sense solution instead of being alt right… also the days when you could counter bad ideas with your good ones, instead of just trying to silence anyone you didn’t like.
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@Background Pony #31A9  
What’s wrong with people? It’s like they don’t think just sitting around chanting “this is fine” in blissful ignorance while the house burns around them is good enough anymore.
Background Pony #31A9
What’s wrong with people? It’s like hiding tags just aren’t good enough anymore, so now Aryanne has to get censored and people are making walls of text about it.
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@Amm  
and the Atlantic article had absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
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