@Derpyfan  
I find the fact that this show as specific character haters is a little pathetic. I was going to ask how people could take a kids show so seriously, but tbh I only needed to type it out to realize… yes… they do.

@destineigh  
People always take this kind of image seriously because Starlight haters have done this kind of stuff to the point where it’s not even funny.

I didn’t expect anyone to take this seriously.

If you can’t debate civilly, don’t.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken  
See you later dude. I’m done entertaining your aggressive issues.

@AC97  
““Oh, next I suppose you’ll tell me that ’the fate of all of Equestria hangs in the balance!’””
 
….Says the woman who just invaded a castle of a princess of equestria and specifically tampered with a table specifically designed to detect the issues with the fate of Equestria with her time spell. :/
 
Is that sounding a bit odd to you?
 
She very likely knew that they are considered heroes by this point, hell she knew from the start that Twilight was an Alicorn Princess the second she saw her. But she WANTED to believe that regardless of whether the Mane 6 defend Equestria or not, the world would still manage to keep on turning AND let her have her revenge on them because she wanted it to be that way.
 
And after ALL that common knowledge, logic from tampering with a table connected to Equestria’s fate, still didn’t clue her in on the importance of the Mane 6…being connected to Equestria’s fate, the Mane 6 who introduced themselves in the first place in the cult episodes as people who are responsible for checking on abnormalities in Equestria’s fate which to which she replied ‘nope’, hiding her cult leader nature, later even spying on Twilight’s lectures to learn as much as possible …
 
….what does that tell you?
 
Either she’s in COMPLETE denial or UNBELIEVABLY INCOMPETENT, she was still willing to a MASSIVE risk to tamper with reality and change the fates of a princess and her 5 champion friends using time terrorism out of petty revenge.
 
That’s what it boils down to. Literally everything about her plan was setup so that she would know as much about the Mane 6 as possible before her plan was enacted and tampering with a table linked to the fate of equestria to set it up….
 
…. and you think she wasn’t just a nutjob in denial? EVERYTHING about her life has been about denial.
 
Her fantasies of the Mane 6 not being important to Equestria by the time her time plan was about to start were just as real as Starlight not thinking she could just join Sunburst at the academy……either extreme denial or incredibly badly written incompetence that wouldn’t even begin to be defensible.
 
And, again, trying to tamper the lives of 6 people you hate, one of which you know straight away is important as an alicorn princess, is INCREDIBLY risky, intrusive and evil.
 
…..
 
I DO, however, admit that I forgot that Twilight didn’t even try to talk her down until the last one. That’s one thing I DID forgot. Anyone with common sense would of tried explaining shit was getting really, REALLY bad and it wasn’t just about them personally fighting after the first or second time, and then I suddenly forget the protagonist is Twilight Spuckles.
 
That WAS my bad. Maybe it was wishful thinking that the writing for someone was good in that episode, and I remembered it wrong. I apologize.
 
Even so, “I” personally wouldn’t exactly tamper with time 10+ years in the past without a method of knowing if it was safe or apocalyptic, especially if your tampering with the life of a princess. Then again, Starlight WAS technically a violent, nigh murderous terrorist during that time, messing with reality and people’s lives for her own selfish ends and grievances, violently attacking others, and even in later seasons she is often ‘bend rules first, think about consequences later’. So I don’t think endangerment was ever high on her priorities for that in denial nutjob.
 
“Besides, of fucking course she’d be in jail in real life”
 
At least we agree on that, and for what little is left, how about we just agree to disagree?
 
 
@Alphamon_Ouryuken  
Missing the point as always? Check.  
Looking for a fight to continue like an addict as always? Check.  
And….what the hell?!
 
“one got punished for a thousand years and still can’t dial back his antics,”
 
Jeezus! The hell is wrong with you? That statement tells me a LOT about you.
 
You make it sound like people who are only partially evil have absolutely no say in what degree of “justices” are done to them and must simply accept it like a dog. Reality does not work that way, its pitiful you think reality works that way, and its clear you and Discord wouldn’t understand each other in a million years, and neither will we.
 
Since we’ve made that last two points abundantly clear, lets stop.
 
Allright, see ya never :D

@CronoM
 

 
“She knew of their importance because of how they defeated Tirek” is still fanon, not canon.
 
Try again.
 
In fact, it’s fanon that seems to directly contradict canon:
 

 
Why would she be sarcastically saying that if she knew all about Tirek attacking? On what basis do you think she knew at that point? Was she completely familiar with Ponyville’s layout before?
 

 
Twilight only even tried talking her down on the last event, and no more loops happened after that.

@Alphamon_Ouryuken  
Pretty sure they were both monsters, at least by good citizen standards. Being chaotic neutral still means Discord can be a pretty cruel monster on a bad day or if he meets a very pompous person. As I’ve always stated. He IS a Trickster afterall. If someone like Prince Blueblood did something rude to Fluttershy, he would turn that guy’s life into a living hell with no remorse at all. But being chaotic neutral also means he has certain standards chaotic evil’s do not.
 
Although you have to admit, pre-reform Starlight did display a lot more aggressive and killing intent then Discord, who could snap the neck of anyone he wanted with his level of power.
 
Course there’s a big difference between A)having served 1000 years of stone already, and B)no punishment at all and many benefits. I know your looking for a fight, as you’ve been hounding me for the past few weeks, but can we please leave it at that for now? I am honestly asking for that, we do not get along, oil and fire, and we should interact as little as possible.

“You seem to be implying she fully believed they were that important. She didn’t.”
 
She DID. NOT Starlight during the beginning of the 5th season, but Starlight at the END when she had re-entered central society and fully investigated, invaded and sabotaged the castle that arose when the Mane 6 publicly saved all of Equestria.
 
I have specifically not been mentioning her cult activities, which also require sentencing as well, because on the topic we are CURRENTLY on, she was NOT ignorant of the Mane 6’s importance. During the Cult event, she WAS ignorant of the Mane 6’s importance.
 
Again, anyone older then 16 should of picked up on that. Of course Starlight early S5 didn’t know about the Mane 6, she was in the boonies of the boonies on the border of the very country. Her follow up plan involved actually entering the sanctum of ‘heroes who defeated Tirek’
 
The reason I didn’t bring up her cult activities when mentioning the endangerment issue was obvious.
 
“ you already have a hint with my username. Are you implying I’m automatically immature for not seeing eye-to-eye with you? Because you’re kinda giving me that impression.”
 
What I am implying is that either you are A) So young that you do not fully grasp the conversation, or B) You ARE older, but you are using the arguments of a younger, less mature person because you are biased towards Starlight.
 
Starlight
 
Starlight Glimmer, an adult fully in control of her own actions who is a time terrorist, a cult leader, risks reality to take revenge on 6 people, risks the country to take revenge on the defenders of the realm, and took an egregiously long time to see anything wrong with that, that she created many, MANY alternate realities with infinite pain, suffering and death before she was finally convinced to stop.
 
Whether you see eye-to-eye with me doesn’t matter. MY word doesn’t matter at all, I’m just a regular joe. Whether you see eye-to-eye with the actual facts is a different matter entirely.
 
“but the standards for forgiveness in this setting are very high anyway”
 
Hence, Cozy Glow is brought up regarding modern punishments. And even with the standards of forgiveness set in MLP, Starlight Glimmer’s lack of punishments and even rapid benefits in the wake of her reckless endangerments and time atrocities, is several scales higher then anyone else.
 
Hell, even Starlight Glimmer HERSELF thinks the speed of which her old town forgives her is insane, stupid, and lets be honest, badly written, even from her perspective. If those citizens have become so addicted to her guidance after she was chased out of town in a mob, the best thing she should do is stay far away from that town as possible so those poor idiots can think for themselves.

@AC97
 
Oh, and I chimed in with the drunk driver thing not because I’m arguing she bore no liability for her actions, but because of how ridiculous it is to sue gun manufacturers, to touch briefly on politics.

@CronoM
 

 
You seem to be implying she fully believed they were that important. She didn’t. That was outright stated in the episode; first rule of running a cult is isolation, and news doesn’t seem to be overly great at spreading throughout Equestria anyway, like how Daring Do’s existence isn’t universally known. Hell, she started S6 not knowing what the Wonderbolts are.
 
With her plan, she wasn’t trying to completely ruin their lives, she was trying to prevent the six of them from being friends.
 
The answer to the age question is: you already have a hint with my username. Are you implying I’m automatically immature for not seeing eye-to-eye with you? Because you’re kinda giving me that impression.
 
Besides, of fucking course she’d be in jail in real life, if she’s lucky, but the standards for forgiveness in this setting are very high anyway, otherwise they would’ve petrified Discord or worse for treason, probably.

@CronoM  
I’m 24 and her only intent was to get revenge on the ponies who ruined her life nothing. The fact is that you can’t arrest someone for something they didn’t do nor can you arrest them for something that isn’t illegal and both apply to this situation.

@Derpyfan  
@GaruuSpike  
@AC97  
There are MAJOR flaws in all of your comparisons most people over 16 would know right off the bat. How old are you three?
 
…
 
Buying or selling a gun for self defense and buying or selling a car for travel =/= Going back in time to INTENTIONALLY ruin 6 people’s lives. They are not even remotely similar.
 
(And yes, we would never sell time machines legally in the future either. Phil of the Future was not a realistic sci fi comedy.)
 
Even if you take away the BASE effects, the effects anyone coherent could understand (you stop a hero who defeats Tirek from becoming a hero using time travel, Tirek does not get defeated, which WAS public knowledge at the time)…
 
….she is still actively using time travel to ruin 6 people’s lives. Messing with the past and tampering with people’s lives are two extremely risky, UNBELIEVABLY INTRUSIVE and evil things she is actively doing right off the bat. That already is incomparable to selling a gun commonly used for self defense or selling a car (unless its a Pinto)
 
That is not even REMOTELY comparable to buying or selling a gun for self defense, or buying or selling a gun. Explain how that is comparable again?
 
“Technically she couldn’t be charged with anything in any of the timelines because the only thing she actually did was interrupt a race some foals were having which is far from illegal. Everything that happened in those alternate timelines was the result of another villains actions and what Starlight did was nothing more than a catalyst not a direct influence.”
 
So as long as the triggers were mild, the malicious intent behind it and the effects it had on other timelines, and the deaths of people that lived in those timelines…. don’t matter?
 
Is that your moral standpoint? That if you intentionally ruin 6 people’s lives with a mild trigger, your not responsible because the trigger was mild and the effects of intentionally ruining the lives of public heroes before they could become heroes? And whatever a villain does in those now defenseless timelines, is completely off your shoulders?
 
Really?!
 
REALLY?!
 
Twilight is a princess, semi-responsible for the realm, and is thus legally obligated to testify to the RULING princess(Celestia) of someone who at least TRIGGERED mass death and misery on a global scale in Equestria, even if it wasn’t observed in their timeline, as such a thing could of been permanent, so she could receive just but fair punishment from beings powerful enough to confirm her actions, like Celestia.
 
AFTER SEVERAL WARNINGS OF WHAT SHE WAS CAUSING, by Twilight, a princess of the realm no less, Starlight STILL did it a few more times until she finally stopped creating messed up timelines with a lot of death and misery experienced in those timelines.
 
….
 
I know you guys are Starlight fans, but lets be ACTUALLY honest for just a second. Not ‘shady defense lawyer honesty’ using words ‘technically’, I mean ACTUALLY honest.
 
Starlight’s actions were messed up, one of the worst. Going back in time to ruin people’s lives is NOT the same as buying or selling a gun commonly used for self defense, or buying or selling a car commonly used for travel.
 
Add to the fact that this was after the 6 of them stopping Tirek was public knowledge, and its even worse.
 
They are completely incomparable, and all three of you guys know that.

@GaruuSpike
 
Or why car manufacturers don’t get sued for whenever a drunk driver kills someone.
 
Holding them responsible for what some shitheads do with their products is ludicrous.

@Derpyfan
 
Good point. There’s some major post hoc ergo propter hoc with saying Starlight “caused” those apocalyptic timelines. Unintentionally creating an opportunity for someone else to fuck shit up is not the same thing as fucking the shit up yourself. Starlight can’t be blamed for the Butterfly/Ripple effect; that’s a stretch that would cause Elastigirl to snap a tendon.
 
This is why gun dealers don’t get in trouble if their customers use the guns they purchased to shoot up a crowd.

@CronoM  
Technically she couldn’t be charged with anything in any of the timelines because the only thing she actually did was interrupt a race some foals were having which is far from illegal. Everything that happened in those alternate timelines was the result of another villains actions and what Starlight did was nothing more than a catalyst not a direct influence.

Even disregarding the show’s constant comparative hypocrisy with punishment(and yes not everything on this page is accurate, I know)…
 
….I do have a bit of an issue with the ‘spreading infinite misery across multiple timelines’ thing. Cause whether they exist still or not, there was a lot of death and misery experienced in those dimensions exclusively because of Starlight’s meddling.
 
If she was left in any of the dimensions she recklessly created , especially AFTER being told what it was doing but ignoring it, she would be imprisoned for life by the remaining good guys. What would our country, or any country do if we found out some schmuck actually caused World War 1 while messing with time for completely selfish reasons, and they admitted to it and proved it while in custody?
 
And its not like she could claim ignorance that the Mane 6 she was trying to ruin weren’t heroes relevant to the timeline, that was public knowledge after Season 4 when the Rainbow-fied Mane 6 fixed Tirek’s damages all across Equestria. And Starlight had to be IN main equestria for a time to sabotage the crystal map with her time spell. She was IN the castle that appeared AFTER their public hero work.
 
…
 
Its only because her terrorism is isolated to an….unsettlingly forgiving nowhere town(hell even Starlight agreed its unsettling and nonsensical how easily she was forgiven there) and multiple split dimensions they no longer have access to, that Twilight can play favorites on how easy to make her ‘reformation process’. Pinkie even hinted to Maud that they keep it a secret, thus she gets the least amount of public scorn for being a terrorist as possible.
 
Its kind of hard to ignore.

@Background Pony #B840  
Here’s some fries for all that salt  

@CountColtnackh  
Grow up.

@CountColtnackh