@Alexlayer
 
…says the person who constantly bitches about Glim Glam

@Background Pony #0B3A  
Go to sleep, Chrysy.

I do. You are the worst.

@iexist1  
Just being what I am.

@Ack_Attack  

 
DAT profile pic is just… Yes

@Background Pony #4439  
Because we’re all buddies.

It always seems to be the same users that keep commenting on this images.

@Syamsudin Irawan  
gurl, you are LATE to the party.

Oof Popcorns out

@Background Pony #8623  
Exactly. Just because we can dislike a character that is terribly written, doesn’t necessitate hate. Her character writing barely has enough identity to be liked or disliked to begin with. “Hating” a writing mess like her just seems pointless.

Hate her? No. Think that she’s a rather poorly thought out character made with a bunch of choices that baffle me for one intended to be a regularly recurring part of the show? Absolutely.

@FlutterButterButt  
what kind of essaies have you been read and where can I read it? haha joke, let’s not start an another pointless arguemnt. you get my point, if you don’t have anything to say. move on.

@Background Pony #B064  

 
I too enjoy the simple and unanalytic. As for not writing an essay, by comment lenght standard, you did

Tl;dr.  
But ooh grab popcorn

@FlutterButterButt  
hey now, I started with vague ones(kind, intellegent) but I’m sure that I used specific “adjectives” to describe her after that. besides no need to be assblasted over an honest and simple compliment. I don’t think i should write an essay about Starlight whenever I want to compliment her character. like, how her progress and development have been realistic, gradual and natural or how admirable and indepth character she is. a lot of people already did that since her introduction. so why not just simply compliment her without being overly specific or analystic?

@Ebalosus  
i care so little about what other people give shits about you’d need an electron microscope to even comprehend it.

@Ebalosus  
The general argument you’re met with is “Mary Sues are bad”, and you basically just go out to say “No, according to this evidence, Mary Sues are good”.
 
The whole thing of a “Mary Sue” has, sadly, become way too vague and can basically mean anything at this point. Sometimes someone sees a collection of tropes that are often associated with their perception of “Mary Sue” and, because of said tropes, they automatically declare the character as a Mary Sue. But the whole thing doesn’t have so much to do with tropes on itself, as it has to do with how these tropes are executed. A character in question can have a ton of tropes often associated with the Mary Sue, but if they (the character) are really well written, what people see is a really good character then. Batman could probably count as one of the best examples of this if by tropes alone, and other ones I can think of are Dante from Devil May Cry (who, by the way, is one of my favorite video-game leads ever) and, as you like to cite, Elizabeth from Bioshock: Infinite.
 
But like I said, the status of Mary Sue is not about the tropes themselves, but the execution and writing of them. The reason for which Starlight is often called a Mary Sue (despite being far from an actually “flawless” character as it’s often expected from Mary Sues) is because her writing is often enough some of the worst in the show, and yet despite that, the show often tries to sell her as the best thing since sliced bread despite the mixed reception, often at the expense of other characters portrayals, which, by the way, is one of the worst writing decisions you can make and one of the writing sins that will almost definitely get your character labeled as a Mary Sue.
 
For the record, though, I’m not here to declare that Starlight is a Mary Sue, but not to declare that she isn’t either. Like I said, the concept has become too broad like to have any useful application nowadays. My real beef with her is that she’s a horribly written character that the creators are far too in love with to recognize the problems with the ways they write her, and has been a hindrance to my enjoyment of the show ever since her reformation. Whether someone wants to declare her a “Mary Sue” or not is none of my business.
 
But I’ve honestly grown tired of you bringing up this “Being a Mary Sue counterargument” over and over again when all you’re doing is the same thing you’re complaining about, aka, presenting an absolutist, black-or-white declaration. It’s an extremely shortsighted perspective that you’re trying to pass as “smart” on your part (without even using your own arguments, even, but someone else’s), but it’s only making you look like a pretentious jackass. So I’d advice to outgrow what’s frankly has become a bad habit out of you.

@Alexlayer
 
@Ebalosus  
Can you two like just make out with each other already and stop whining about a drawing on a show?

@Alexlayer
 
You have yet to explain why my examples are bad, or at the very least not applicable here. I’ve linked examples that are written by me, Shamus Young, Smudboy, and Matthew Matosis that are not voluminous nor hard to understand nor need an in-depth understanding of the media they’re critiquing to gasp the points I’m trying to make.

@Ebalosus  
Congratulations! You’re a broken record!

@Alexlayer
 
Because A) It’s true, and B) I’ve been making it for 5 years now

@Ebalosus  
You sure like to bring up that argument a lot. You should know by now that just citing that post/article isn’t really gonna change someone’s mind.

@DanielTepesKraus
 
>Muh Rey Sue  
>Implying people actually give a shit about that

Of course I don’t hate you I freaking love you so much ❤️