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C’mon dude, I’m all with ya on that sentiment, but I think you seriously underestimate the level of petty some people have
Piccolo = Sunset
Vegeta = Starlight
Frieza = Chrysalis?
p.s. who would be Freeza?
Juniper? nah, she doesn’t, and wouldn’t, compare to him. besides, she’s just a Sunset rip-off.
Sunset? maybe, but she “became” a mediocre “heroine,” so she’s out of the question (unless we return her back to normal).
Gloriosa? not really?… all she did was have a nervous meltdown…
Tempest? uhh, but she redeemed herself – she’s definitely out of the question!
Starlight? aw, hell no! poor little cinnamon roll, too pure for this universe. ;-;
ah, I know! how about Queen Chrysalis? takes whatever she wants without a shred of guilt? yeah, she WILL do… ha ha ha ha ha ha! 😈
(and as I said before, Princess Luna should be Piccolo in this case. >:V)
just like goku was very tired in namek when using kaioken and spirit bomb but become in ssj … and magically his energy was restored …
at least here goku uses the energy that Frieza gave him although his body has not yet stabilized as a result his transformations are weaker
Jiren did not wake up from his meditation so it was not worth it until he felt the ultra instinct again
maybe but you can choose to focus more on comedy and that’s not why it would be wrong
if I start to overanalyze things, dbz would have less sense of what it supposedly has
in the series they explain that the saiyans of universe 6 are warriors who have evolved to no longer need the tail and who fight for the good of their planet by logic more powerful than normal
the ssj berserk is a ssj more powerful than the normal being based on broly
gohan had barely reached the ssj but it did not take him long to transform into ssj 2 thanks to his potential since he already had the power he just had to release it
gohan and trunks of the future needed intruction first to transform
at least caulifla and kale needed the instruction of cabba to transform because the power already had it
Trunks of the future is the same trunks and trained constantly and it cost much more to become ssj
false, vegeta never trained with trunks until the arrival of the tournament that is why he is surprised that it was transformed into ssj the first time
trunks and goten never trained lived in times of peace unlike gohan and trunks of the future nobody taught them and they became ssj at the age of 7 and 8 years much younger than any saiyan and even so they could fight alongside gohan and vegeta ssj as training
gotenks just need to see the ssj3 to be able to transform without anyone teaching him despite the fact that it took goku 7 years
in coclusion caulifla and kale are more consistent than children
“goku the defeat kefla being very weak for his fight with jiren what is mentioned many times in a normal situation goku ssj god would have defeated he”
“it never stopped being a comedy … super buu turns vegito into chocolate but he was still alive and could fight with buu giving him a beating like you want me to take that seriously … also comedy is subjective”
“it is because of nostalgia that people really complain about caulifla and kale but they do not remember goten, trunks and gotenks that only served to give power to buu but now that is important”
On the other side…
Caulifla turned on SS1 like a switch. She then briefly activated SS2 a few minutes later like it was nothing. An hour later, she just turned on SS2 for good like a switch. Kale’s power exists completely on Broly hype, but completely negated the tension of such an unstable power they could of took time to develop by having her master the power in a half an hour.
A coffee flavored super saiyan sucker :U
goku the defeat kefla being very weak for his fight with jiren what is mentioned many times in a normal situation goku ssj god would have defeated her
@Tyrranux
it never stopped being a comedy … super buu turns vegito into chocolate but he was still alive and could fight with buu giving him a beating like you want me to take that seriously … also comedy is subjective
@RIG
it is because of nostalgia that people really complain about caulifla and kale but they do not remember goten, trunks and gotenks that only served to give power to buu but now that is important ….
We are literally going in circles here, now this conversation is even more pointless than it already was. I’m bored >:/
I’m not accusing you, i am just saying we are too different.
Oh c’mon man if you’re gonna accuse me of being a curmudgeon that hates everything don’t then go bringing up guilty pleasures >:/
Don’t ask me, i am the WORST type of person to talk about how “deep” something is. Wanna evidence? I like johnny test and i don’t understand why people get so assblasted by it’s existence.
So it is too much to ask for something that is supposedly “the best anime/manga of all time” to actually live up to that title? I guess we’re not suppose to expect quality in our products right? Just be a good little piglet and take whatever slop is shoveled in front of us and be grateful we’re even getting a bad version of what we want instead of a good one?
My deepest apologies I forgot where I was, the internet, where I’m not suppose to have a differing opinion than the teeming masses and am to just fall in line with the popular notions even if I know them to be wrong. Where I’m suppose to have the same opinion as everyone else even though it would be an absolute betrayal of who I am and everything I believe. I’ll try to remember that next time, and het while we’re on the subject do your shoes need shining? I’ll polish them right up for ya’, sir.
Also, i like starlight glimmer.
Geez, you guys are NEVER satisfied, just admit you are this
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My thoughts exactly. End of the day this Universal Survival Arc, nay, Dragon Ball Super itself, is just one big waste of time. There are far better things to do than concern oneself with this rather fitting encapsulation of everything wrong with Shonen Battle stories (given this franchise’s impact on the genre and all)
I don’t see how the two Starlight Glimmers, Kale and Caulifla, losing to the main character is really a cheerful point when by the time they were finally defeated, they were already stronger then all the Universe 7 fighters combined besides UI Goku. The damage is already done. We already knew that UI Goku could knee Jiren in the chest so Goku’s win isn’t any surprise or any kind of payoff. The only thing we are left with is befuddlement on how their asspull Goku getting back his stamina AGAIN to rematch with Jiren, because the writers wrote themselves into a corner as usual.
I hope you are happy UI Goku BTFO Kefla so hard that he broke her potara fusion and kamehameha her out of the ring, now U6 only have two who namekians, they are doomed (unless the theory about hit creating a time padarox clone to escape elimination is true, el grande padre never announced his defeat, xeno hasn’t cross him out from his tablet and he has been suspiciously silent since his elimination)
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Yeah I saw that, which means the whole new favorite OCs beating series mainstay bit they’re doing here was now even more of a hollow punchline. At least when Beerus beat Goku they had the balls to have it stick but I guess that’s only because Beerus is literally the best thing to happen to Dragon Ball Z in years…..
@Archangel
I’m pretty damn impressed they actually managed to make a genuine transforming toy off of Luluco herself, I haven’t even seen the show and I still want that damn toy. It’s like a Semi Waifu Bait Megatron man, the delicious absurdity alone is too good to ignore. I HATE BEING POOR!
Yes
ahh you mean Space Patrol Luluco. yes both anime made by the same team that made Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill two of the best animes of history 😎
Now I think of this other anime that actually crossed with Little Witch Academia. Forgot the name
…I can’t argue with that. Oh, if you’re looking for more Kamen Rider, well, all of Wizard’s successors, Gaim, Drive, Ghost and Ex-Aid all have their good points.
spoiler titles and summaries says Goku will go ultra instint again and kick her ass