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it was to be expected. These are the changelings we’re talking about, this has been the vast majority of fans’ fanon material for years and for good reason. They’re the most basic thing you can get for a tragic case, they fight not for power, but for their own survival as a species.
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@Dizzy Pen  
How is this a change for the bad?  
Other then there look and the fact we now know these changelings are not going to be threats, we got nothing to really go on.
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@PonyPon  
Exactly. I consider Twilicorn a change for the good, while I consider this change for the changelings for the bad. Glimmer is neutral for me, since it was handed poorly, but it kinda had and still has potential for good stories.
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I think the change was great. It shows they’re different, better creatures now. Thorax looks elegant and powerful. I think I’m the only person who thoroughly enjoyed every part of this and saw absolutely nothing wrong with it. And, regardless, it’s the way it is now, so we can either get used to it or get out while we can.
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Consider that there is good change and bad change.
 
And equally divergent ways to do both.
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Wow. Reading back through these comments. I can’t say I am surprised at how people don’t like change, after all these years of complaints about change, though.
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Ah OK then.
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Yes it has. This is their only form of long distance communication.  
 
There’s no “hivemind” kind of link.
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It might have been, with the whole beetle communicator.
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@Keith Mowz
 
I’m not talking about full blown hive mind where they’re mindless drones. I’m talking about Chrysalis communicating them through a link. That hasn’t been jossed at all.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
“hive mind” has always been fanon and was all but outright jossed with this episode.
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@Prof.NightJack  
That’s merely the radius of the magic-nullifying effect being larger than it probably needs to be, it was completely barren, unused land. It could technically be part of the kingdom sure, but as far as things go, the only real “kingdom” part of the kingdom is the hive.
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@zippysqrl  
And the land around it effected by the magic-nullifying thrown is not?
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@Keith Mowz
 
And pray tell how is that going to happen when they all have hive mind functionality? Chrysalis just can straighten up block him.
 
 
 
@zippysqrl
 
I would actually accept that explanation but they never really imply it. Well if they do go with this I hope they do it in the next season.
 
 
@Prof.NightJack
 
Yes and the changelings reside in the Hive? How exactly is he going to convinced anyone when Chrysalis is just going to flat out knock any ideas he had. Thorax had to have known about this too since he’s a changeling too.
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@Prof.NightJack  
I’m pretty sure the changeling hive IS the kingdom, since Chrysalis and ALL the changelings were there, and it has a magic-nulling throne.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
“I’d hoped never to see that place again” was about the HIVE.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
In The Times are a Changeling, he probably was not exiled yet, so it’s possible that between the events of The Times are a Changeling and There and Back again he was discovered to be a traitor, then got exiled, and lost hope of trying to reform the others, therefore making him wish to never return.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
So? One can convince other changelings without having to go back to the hive.
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@Prof.NightJack
 
Uhhh maybe you should re-watch it.
 
Thorax in The Times are a Changeling.
 
Thorax: That’d be so amazing! I want to know all about friendship, and maybe one day I can take that knowledge back to the Changeling Kingdom! If my kind learned how to create love for one another, maybe they wouldn’t have to take it from others!
 
 
Thorax in There and Back again
 
Starlight Glimmer: The Changeling Kingdom. With you on our side, I can—
 
And literally a few lines later.  
Thorax: I’d hoped never to see that place again. Now what?
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@Background Pony #9B06  
I was talking about back in “The Times are a Changeling”, and he was talking about going back to his people there.  
In this he was talking about never seeing the hive again, not his people.  
You need to re-watch both and pay attention to what he said.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
I swear there’s a trope/cliche for that.
 
“vows never to go back, is made guide to lead people back to that exact place”
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@Prof.NightJack
 
No he states he hoped to never see that place again in part 1. Watch it again.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
“Wow that guy escaped totalitarian regime where he’s be tortured and killed, most likely not by dictator herself but by his compatriots, and he doesn’t that big on returning here to overthrow Queen’s regime, that an asshole”
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@Background Pony #9B06  
Yeah, well, would you return there to be probably killed?  
You saw what Chrysalis was going to do to him, and even though it was never stated, it looked like she was gonna drain the whole love from him, and then probably kill him.  
The truth is they managed to change the changelings only because Starlight gave him and idea of waht to do.  
Otherwise, they would all be imprisoned, and Thorax probably dead.
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@Background Pony #9B06  
He never said he was going back right away, he hoped to do it someday, never said when. so you are wrong about how he lied.