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I sound like I can see things fairly and without biased, all the evidence points towards her being the victim in all categories if you choose to ignore that that’s your prerogative.
You sound like an apologist. I’m glad you’re not involved in the judiciary, either.
You didn’t even read my comment did you? Just stop you sound like a psychopath.
Might want to watch it again. The first thing she attempted to do upon removing the amulet was magically torture Rainbow Dash. Luckily her magic went back to its usual level of incompetence by then. Trixie is a horrible, malicious pony, and that act alone proved it, if not everything else that entire episode. Tartarus is the place for her.
She never attempted violence other than towards Applejack and that was when she was wearing the amulet at the beginning when she shows up wearing the amulet she challenges Twi to a duel of skill in magic she never attacked Twi or anyone else with violence it wasn’t until she had it on for half the episode she started to get aggressive, she swapped the amulet for the one she thought was more powerful and was still under the influence of the amulet it wasn’t till she calmed down she started acting normal again she didn’t just turn back to normal as soon as she took it off there was no signs it had worked till she became drowsy signaling she was normal again, she did not attack anyone while in her normal state only while she was possessed and even then not until she had it on for awhile, Trixie did nothing wrong in that episode besides try to cheat in the duel everything else she did was either tricked into doing or possessed she admitted she wanted to get back at Twi but never meant to cause this much trouble or hurt anyone she apologized and that was it demonizing her doesn’t work as she was not in control of her actions and she was the one severely wronged throughout both her first two episodes. I don’t even like Trixie but it’s still obvious she didn’t deserve to be punished before or after the incident.
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Okay, since you seem to have no qualms about pardoning her violence while she was wearing the amulet, then, how about when she attempted violence without wearing the amulet?
Yes she made plans to get even with Twi she did not intend to hurt her though she doesn’t even attack Twi when she has the amulet on she did little to nothing and what she did do was because of the amulet itself so no she does not belong in hell for wanting to get even which didn’t even involve violence just a show of skill.
You’re also quite good at ignoring my previous posts. I already said I thought Trixie was the victim in the first place and that the only reason neither Trixie nor Starlight were in Tartarus was due to intervention by Twilight.
Trixie, however, went absolutely overboard in trying to exact revenge and started planning on doing so before she even put the amulet on. If anything, I think the amulet’s effect took what anger Trixie already had and made it worse. Regardless, she should have been looking at a cell in hell for that. (And, yes, the shopkeeper, too.)
You’re really good at assuming things and ignoring things, “weapon of mass destruction”? If it were used by an alicorn maybe but otherwise it only does so much, she didn’t use it to take over she used it to show up Twilight and she did not know it would posses her the shopkeeper sold it to her with no qualms and did not tell her what it would do other than saying it would make her stronger, I can forgive her because she did not intend at any point to cause harm not even to Twilight she was tricked into buying something that would harm her and she was mocked had her home vandalized and lost her dream career over some benign show boating which she’s an entertainer it’s to be expected the other ponies need to get over themselves and at least a couple of them should be arrested.
Trixie was not in control of her actions and it was not her fault she wound up in that situation she had every right to try and get even with Twi after all she went through and though I don’t think cheating was right of her she was only told the amulet would make her stronger once it was off she went back to normal apologized and explained she never meant for that to happen so yes I can easily forgive her not only that but vilifying her is a pretty dick move when she was the victim for most of it.
If you want someone to go to tartarus then look no further than Starlight who not only did what Trixie did but far more she assaulted the main 6 kidnapped them attempted to brainwash them attempted murder, stalked Twilight for a year and nearly ruined her life forever and was willing to let Equestria became a wasteland all of this she did while in full control of her actions.
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Well, if you’re willing to give someone a pass after they took petty revenge on another by using a weapon of mass destruction, that’s up to you. I don’t know many others who would do so.
If you consider Trixie dangerous because of her magical knowledge then every unicorn should be rounded up and imprisoned Twilight should be executed she’s the most powerful of all of them she has the potential to end everything so they should kill her or at least that’s your logic. If you think it’s okay to imprison someone because they have the ability to do something wrong then everyone is fair game your idea of justice sounds like a dystopia, please stay away from civil servant and government jobs we have enough problems to deal with.
This is why some people are not cut out to be part of any judicial system.
@Pagan
Trixie obviously has enough magical knowledge to be extremely dangerous, if she were able to track down the Amulet in the first place. I also have heard of few governments, fictional or otherwise, that would look kindly on someone usurping control over an entire town, regardless of their mental state. She might not have done as much time as Tirek, but a couple years in the pony equivalent of super-max seems quite appropriate.
I still don’t get why you want her to go to hell for doing something that one, wasn’t her fault and two, she was not in control of her actions she didn’t even do anything that bad she banished Twi from ponyville which didn’t last long and made people do chores the worst thing she did was throw AJ and she was fine, if you feel she should have been punished anyway (even though that would have been messed up because it was the shopkeepers fault) manual labor or just some time in a holding cell would have been plenty sending her to hell is insane, it’s like killing a child for stealing bread you’d have to be pretty screwed up to see that as a proportional response.
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Would it not make more sense to put trixie in regular jail and or a rehabilitation program though instead of just tossing her in ultra jail/hell? It would certainly be the more humane thing to do in comparison.
@Pagan
I’m not denying that Trixie was the aggrieved party in her first episode. She was a ridiculous braggart, but she didn’t deserve what she got.
That said, her response to it was over the top. She really wasn’t in the wrong, so surely some out-of-court settlement with Snips and Snails’ parents for the cost of her trailer would have been adequate. Instead she went utterly overboard, from before she even put on the amulet, just by hatching a plan to find and use it.
I suspect the only reason neither Trixie nor Starlight ended up in Tartarus (aside from this being a kid-friendly show) was by the grace of Twilight.
Disprapprtionality of the punishment for the crime was exactly ally the reason trixie went and got the amulet in the first place. Did she deserve some form of punishment for lying in her act? Perhaps though that’s always been rather debatable in my mind. Does she deserve some form of punishment for the alicorn amulet incident? In this case I am more inclined to agree with you last, but sending her to tarturous the place that is literally named after hell is not how you go about doing that.
Also, considering your opinion on trixie I assume that you feel starlight deserves the same punishment of being sent to tarturous for crimes most definitely much worse, and being in complete control of her actions the entire time as opposed to trixie who put on a magic amulet of evil power that is stated in the episode to be slowly driving her insane as she wears it, and still never really accomplished anything as evil and damaging as starlight.
So you see getting even with the person who got you to lose your dream job and your home vandalized by challenging them to a duel of skill as a crime? Not only that but a crime worthy of being sent to basically hell? You’re… odd.
What did that get Luna? Did sending her to the moon for 1,000 years change her back or teach her a lesson? The only thing it did was give time to find the element bearers as a punishment it did nothing and was pointless and in Trixie’s case you would be arresting the victim not the actual person committing the crime, it’s like buying food from a store that poisons it’s customers and then arresting the people who get sick it makes no sense.
The worst Trixie did was play up her abilities and act arrogant while performing her show and the towns response to this was to end her career and vandalize her house which by the way is an actual crime they should have been arrested themselves, Trixie felt she was wronged out of proportion and rightly so and wanted to prove to the person who set all this in motion a lesson by besting her with skill and used a amulet she was told had great power to achieve that though cheating it’s still not a crime and the shopkeep did nothing to dissuade her from buying or tell what it would do to her, she was not in control of her actions once she put it on and it’s the fault of the person selling it not the buyer, like I said it’s like getting sold poisoned food and then the person who gets sick is the one who gets punished.
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Luna ended up spending a thousand years in a place far more isolated than Tartarus for what she did, too. Trixie hatched a plan to boost her powers and take revenge while still in her right mind, so I see no reason why that shouldn’t land her next to Tirek for a while.
that argument kinda loses weight when you consider that luna herself is still out and about walking and she tried to pull that same gig off on a much larger scale with a much larger potential for damage. In fact the parallels are weirdly similar, both have a flare for dramatics, both felt intense jealousy towards another pony due to mixture of their own insecurities and public opinion being against them, both have used dark magic due to this jealousy, both had things spiral waay out of control and eventually had to be stopped as their ambitions got wilder and wilder, both of them have trouble with connecting to other ponies, both of them have moon related names, hell both of them are blue.
point being that its hypocritical to call for trixie being put in super jail for the truly evil and for the most part irredeemable (i assume) beings when her evil track record in equestrian history basically amounts to luna light, without also agreeing that luna should get the proverbial book thrown at her as well. I mean tarturaus is essentially a hell were the worst of the worst villians get thrown in there with out trial, for threatening the very stability of the world, a place for those who cant yet find a second chance. its an extreme last resort essentially, where major threats go when there is no other option outside of perhaps killing them. its not somewhere ya toss anyone who you disagree with into nor where you toss people who can just as easily be dealt with via the legal system or alternative methods.
@Red Cedar
The artifact possessed her she didn’t knw it would do that and it was being sold in a store and the shopkeep accepted her money for it with no hesitation she had no reason to believe it was nothing more than artifact that increases magic ability, she also didn’t attack Twi or anyone when she first showed up she challenged Twi to a magic duel it wasn’t until the amulet took full control she became evil, once it’s off she apologized to everyone and said she never intended to hurt anyone she wasn’t in control of her actions. If anyone should be in tartarus it’s that shopkeep.
As opposed to merely enslaving a town using a dark magic artifact. Trixie should still be in Tartarus after that one.
I totally forgot about this. Trixie you should totally go and kill those ponies.