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Dig Dug
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@Technature  
Condescension and passive-aggressiveness can only multiply. If you don’t enjoy people looking down their nose at you then don’t do it yourself.
 
Regardless.
 
  1. To reiterate what I said but catered specifically to you, yes, it’s possible. It’s also possible she just didn’t report her either. It’s also possible she’s in cahoots with changelings. Meanwhile it can’t be said for certain Twilight never spoke a word about her to authorities, the opposite is also true, so either possibility is no more likely than the other. To turn it around, isn’t it possible that every other time Celestia was strong/lucky enough to get the jump on NM?
     
  2. Children aren’t mentally deficient. Besides, these problems could all be avoided if there was something or someone subduing the cast while it happened to justify the pause. Have some goons surrounding them. Use magic to stop them in their tracks. Put a bucket around their heads. A thing. At all.
     
  3. It actually would’ve saved time ranting on about why their friendship is vital, instead of dancing around the issue on how general friendship is important, just say ‘We’ve saved the world multiple times as the Helements of Armory’. Besides, talking is practically a free action since saying a sentence is about 2 seconds tops.
     
  4. I assume you don’t have an argument to my actual point about ponies being selective about their respect of their princesses since you only took issue with my hypocrisy. Regardless, it was what it was and I apologize for it.
Technature
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@Dig Dug
 
Oh, wow. Someone says there might be something wrong with what you said, and your first reaction is to call them a moron? Maybe it’s not what you explicitely said, but this is the attitude that assholes have every single time something supposedly ruined it, so I’m sorry you were acting like a big enough arrogant prick for me to assume you were acting like an arrogant prick.
 
Moving on.
 
  1. Your quote had nothing to do with what I said. So I’ll ask it in simpler terms in the hopes that I get an actual answer this time. Isn’t it possible that, despite being looked for, She was simply too good at hiding to be found?  
  2. It’s a fucking kids show. Just because YOU can figure out what’s going on if they show the same scene in a more reasonable 10-15 seconds doesn’t mean your 4 year old neice will be able to catch on in that time. Also, pretty colors.  
  3. But again, it would of wasted time that is better spent telling the rest of the episode. They pointed out she was incredibly petty to the point that she only cared about her revenge against Twilight for taking away what she worked on, what fucking more do you want? For it to be mentioned for 15 minutes?  
  4. Wow, this is pretty hypocritical. You call me an ass for assuming you said “ru1n3d fo0r3veR” but then say that I said literally anything can beat them? I pointed out that they’re not perfect gods that couldn’t be beaten by anything, not the literal opposite of what I was saying they weren’t.
Dig Dug
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@Technature  
If we’re gonna play the assumption game I hope you realize you get the role of ass.
 
I never said it ruined the show. I just said that the titles the characters have hinder more than help the integrity of the stories.
 
  1. @Dig Dug
     
  2. It was equally bad every time they did that, like when the other 5 stayed there and watched as Starlight removed Twilight’s Cutie Mark.
     
  3. Hopefully that is considered at some point next season.
     
  4. It would’ve driven the point home that Starlight was out of her mind, which wasn’t that big anyway since it didn’t take much more than “stop having a pity party and try again” from Twilight to bring her out of it. The show has a chronic case of introducing deep emotional conflicts and having them resolved in minutes with no recovery periods.
     
  5. I was more referring to the more common ponies in other episodes that miss the fact that a princess walks among them, but if they’re so shit that anyone could beat them as you imply, why are they still the ruling powers?
Technature
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@Dig Dug
 
Oh, I LOVE it when people start talking about how “something” ruined the show. It’s always the best part of my week.
 
But the lists are my favorite.
 
  1. She probably did. Has the consideration that Starlight is just THAT GOOD at hiding until she doesn’t need to never occured?  
  2. She tried solving it non-violently and when she tried violence, that didn’t work either. This is also not the first time in the show something took a little bit longer than usual, but I guess now it’s a problem?  
  3. Maybe she just felt she didn’t need one. Maybe she’ll consider one now, considering she has evidence that she could use some?  
    4.I’m sorry, did you miss the part where she was shown literally nothing but the ground itself and still only cared about her petty revenge against Twilight?  
    Even if she did, Star probably wouldn’t have given a damn, and it would of been little more than useless exposition of something that would later be shown anyways.  
  4. Yes, cause as we know, the other Alicorns have had no failures whatsoever in the entire run of the series, right? Chrysalis, Tirek, and Discord all never happened. You’re absolutely right, how could anyone think they could hope to beat Twilight when she’s clearly a (noticeably less experienced) Alicorn, especially since ones much better at their job have yet to fail in any way whatsoever?
     
    Come on, can’t we talk about an actual problem the episode has for once in this fandom? Like how not every timeline had Nightmare Moon as a major problem?
Background Pony #C18C
Starlight is a whiny cunt who got cuckold by a butt mark as a kid.  
Twilight is an inept sovereign who can’t beat down an inferior horse when said horse acts like a cunt.
 
Future is doomed a dozen or so times as a result. Both were just terrible.
Dig Dug
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@IceKitsune  
Meanwhile absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, unless the show explicitly states it  
any given possibility is headcanon at best.
 
Very quickly- Twilight had a full minute of reaction time on which she snapped out of shock to ask Starlight what she was doing but didn’t do anything to stop her until the like 40 seconds in where she fired a single beam then did nothing else. She could’ve teleported behind Starlight. Grab her with her magic. Anything. Anything besides just standing there.
 
Twilight being an alicorn usually comes as an afterthought to the script, just as a reminder of ‘oh wait she is one’ and not something that affects the story past Twilight flying, which as Starlight demonstrated, is achievable by an unicorn as well. It’s the equivalent of a fairy coming up to you telling you aliens are real and you doubting it even though there is a supernatural being right in front of you.
 
The message of the episode would be acceptable if, again, the ponies in question weren’t such huge factors in the course of history. They try to write around it by avoiding the use of Celestia or the characters’ titles to resolve conflicts, but the fact is they aren’t regular ponies. Superman could try to teach that everyone is special in their own way but he’s still a bigger factor in the world because he’s Superman. The entire episodes point to the Mane 6 being friends as pivotal to Equestria’s harmony. If the episode focused on only the Mane 6’s lives being tarnished by the change, or if it showed other friendships being broken causing equally large disasters, it could be argued that they aren’t literally the one difference between war and peace, but every event in the episode points to the Mane 6 being practically the Equestrian Singularity.
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@Dig Dug  
It’s entirely possible she did tell Celestia or someone after the events of the opener but no one could find Glimmer in time and likely called off the search. They might have thought she was dead or fled to another country or something. In the finale she didn’t mention it to anyone but Spike because she wasn’t sure if she actually saw her.
 
She was in shock and the spell activated very quickly, also she did try to stop it but once the spell was active there was nothing she could do.
 
This I agree with, hopefully they will address this in season 6.
 
Glimmer wouldn’t have listened anyway given what she said near the end of the episode about why they should be so special and important.
 
This is kind of annoying but I think it’s mostly the writers not wanting to shove it into everything. They did bring it up in Hooffields and McColts and filly RD mentioned it as well. So it’s not completely forgotten.
 
Also the episode does outright state that while the mane 6 are important they aren’t the most important thing in equestria. It’s friendship that is the most important thing, Twilight’s comment at the end was implying that ending any large/strong enough friendship would have destructive consequences for Equestria as a whole as magic would be weakened as a result. At least that is what I got out of it anyway.
Dig Dug
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

One of the biggest screw ups the show gave itself was making the Mane 6 special ponies. (Elements of Harmony, connections to Celestia, overpowered when it comes to RD and Twi, and more recently for Twilight a Princess herself.) It completely undermines the validity of a lot of the problems they face.
 
Why didn’t Twilight report to anyone there was a deranged unicorn with an incredibly dangerous spell capable of neutralizing a princess on the loose?  
Why did she just sit there and watch as Starlight activated the time spell?  
Why does Twilight not have a single guard in her castle?  
Why didn’t she just simply remind Starlight that her friends are the Elements of Harmony?  
Why do characters keep treating Twilight like a meager unicorn when she is visibly an alicorn with the magical power to rip them apart like paper?
 
One thing’s wanting to resolve problem’s amicably, another’s being a doormat as the problem gets out of control because you let it do so.
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@Keith Mowz  
Starlight likely is self taught almost exclusively in combat magic, while Twilight has little practice in a fight. Also need I remind you that alicorn != god level powers? Twilight herself was insanely strong magic wise even before MMC, so it isn’t far fetched at all to imagine at least one other pony on the planet with the potential Twilight has.
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Twilight was in fact an idiot, because until she dragged Starlight with her into this future, she never once even tried to explain the consequences of her actions, explain the importants of the Elements and their bearers, attempt to actually apologize for ‘ruining’ Starlight’s town, anything; Despite the fact that on several occasions she was willing to talk rather than just going straight into laser spam.
 
Starlight is undeniably overpowered. This is a unicorn capable of self-levitation flight with no visible required effort (seriously, she’s flying throughout almost the entire episode even while exchanging magic missiles with Twilight) who rewrote one of Starswirl’s spells in a way that changed it dramatically (Remember when Twilight did that? She became an Alicorn as a result.) while somehow knowing more about the map than the person who’s been living with it (and, being the nerdy bookhorse she is, clearly would have been studying it) for the entire season. In a magic duel with the alicorn princess of magic, she can fight her to a standstill every single time by Twilight’s own admission.