General Tag Discussion
Background Pony #52BA
Ah, is that what it’s for?
Yes, the tag description says so.
it should probably be made clear (if it’s not already) that it shouldn’t be used like the other slate of various “op is a duck” tags
The tag description already says so. To be clear: it already said so at the time I made the first reply.
Probably in the tag description, have it say something along the lines of “this tag should not be used to describe the Derpibooru user posting this image like the various other ‘op’ tags, but should instead only be used if it features a subject of the image calling another that slur, with the latter being designated ‘op’”.
You would have seen that the tag description explains these very points if you had taken even 5 seconds to check on the state of what you’re posting about.
at the very least it should probably be made clearHow would you propose that would be done?
Because tag descriptions only show up if the user seeks them out (eg. by hovering mouse over the tag to get the tooltip), the tag could be renamed something like “op is a faggot (phrase)”. This could be done for a number of similar tags, like “ur a faget”, “great and powerful”, “pone”, “lmao”, and several other tags that are for identifying words or phrases rather than to be applied as a reaction to the image.
LightningBolt 
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@Background Pony #52BA
No tags should be used as reactions to images, which I know is obvious to both of us. Just sucks how much this needs to be stated to people.
No tags should be used as reactions to images, which I know is obvious to both of us. Just sucks how much this needs to be stated to people.
I suppose
sexy tags count as ‘reactions to images’ too… Background Pony #52BA
@LightningBolt
“wat” comes to mind as an officially-sanctioned reaction-to-image tag.
“we are going to hell”, too.
“wat” comes to mind as an officially-sanctioned reaction-to-image tag.
“we are going to hell”, too.
IWTCIEM 
I was thinking the tags “murder”, “rape” and “torture” should imply the “violence” tag as well.
In addition “genocide” and “snuff” should imply “murder.”
In addition “genocide” and “snuff” should imply “murder.”
TexasUberAlles 
@Ciaran
bitching about other people doing something you yourself just did
bitching about other people doing something you yourself just did
op is a duck is the tag that gets used here euphemistically because op was being an asshole by uploading this or op is racist/sexist/anti-muslim/etc. aren’t allowed for decorum’s sake, no matter how undeniably true they might be; it is fundamentally not the same thing as bitching about dumb meme imported from some other site 13 years ago that makes it look to a new fan like this place is full of creeps.@Background Pony #52BA
Because tag descriptions only show up if the user seeks them out (eg. by hovering mouse over the tag to get the tooltip)
I keep forgetting this exists, but it’s a danged useful feature; maybe it would be more noticeable– and more likely to prompt better tagging– if the tooltip were bigger, or showed up quicker?
Because tag descriptions only show up if the user seeks them out (eg. by hovering mouse over the tag to get the tooltip)
I keep forgetting this exists, but it’s a danged useful feature; maybe it would be more noticeable– and more likely to prompt better tagging– if the tooltip were bigger, or showed up quicker?
Still wouldn’t help anyone uploading from mobile, though, unfortunately.
Background Pony #7C7A
@Background Pony #52BA
@TexasUberAlles
Wait wait wait… Tags have tooltips with descriptions? Why don’t I have those? When hovering over tags, I only see the watch/filter/hide menu.
@TexasUberAlles
Wait wait wait… Tags have tooltips with descriptions? Why don’t I have those? When hovering over tags, I only see the watch/filter/hide menu.
Background Pony #52BA
@Background Pony #7C7A
Are you hovering the tag name’s text, and not other parts such as the +/-, the count, or the padding?
Does your browser display <a> tags’ “title” attribute as a tooltip after hovering the link for a moment, which is how these are delivered?
Also, it works only when viewing the tag list normally, not during tag editing.
Are you hovering the tag name’s text, and not other parts such as the +/-, the count, or the padding?
Does your browser display <a> tags’ “title” attribute as a tooltip after hovering the link for a moment, which is how these are delivered?
Also, it works only when viewing the tag list normally, not during tag editing.
Background Pony #7C7A
@Background Pony #52BA
I’m stupid, I tried it on few random tags that happened to have no description. It does indeed work, TIL. Thanks.
I’m stupid, I tried it on few random tags that happened to have no description. It does indeed work, TIL. Thanks.
Ciaran 
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dumb meme imported from some other site 13 years ago that makes it look to a new fan like this place is full of creeps
Strong disagree. This single image is one of the most intelligent memes on the site today, or at any time. And high energy disruptive faggotry can be a powerful force for change. And with that, I will leave you with the wise words of the Taco Goddess.
Toastypk 
Royal Advisor
I think it gets used if it’s being directly referenced in an image. Which a number of images do.
NightStalker 
Well darn, the image that prompted this question from me in the first place has been deleted so now I can’t reference it…
Anyway, it’s good to know that it’s not meant to be used as a sleight against the actual OP, and that I should report this behaviour if it is being done.
…But at the same time, I do think it’s a little confusing and can be misleading to users.
OP is a duck is meant to imply that the uploader is a ‘duck’, OP is trying to start shit directly implies that the uploader is trying to start some shit… but then op is a faggot is NOT meant to imply that the uploader is a faggot?Honestly, I personally don’t think we should have ANY tags that make reference to the image’s uploader. It has nothing to do with the image itself in most cases, and it can be used to insult the uploader or incite arguments. If a user of this site uploads an image, either it follows the site’s rules and is fine, or it doesn’t and it gets deleted. Do we really need to be giving out badges of dishonour to these people?
I’m guessing someone went through and cleaned up the tag, because when I looked at the search results before making my post there were a LOT of posts that didn’t even have the word ‘faggot’ anywhere in them or otherwise didn’t reference the phrase/meme (AKA, it was being used to refer to the uploader).
Maybe
op is a faggot (meme) would be less confusing? Ciaran
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@NightStalker
Sometimes, the OP is a duck. And it can be nice to just filter those.
Sometimes, the OP is a duck. And it can be nice to just filter those.
But at the same time, I do think it’s a little confusing and can be misleading to users. OP is a duck is meant to imply that the uploader is a ‘duck’, OP is trying to start shit directly implies that the uploader is trying to start some shit…
Using this image as an example, the OP does have a duck badge, and is literally trying to start shit. So much so that they’ve been repeatedly banned (and their next ban may be for life).
So, in cases like that, the tags seem not only appropriate, but a valid warning to others to just avoid the image if they don’t want to deal with someone else’s drama and attempts to create drama.
but thenop is a faggotis NOT meant to imply that the uploader is a faggot?
Please re-read the description of the tag. When used as a reaction image, it is not the OP of the image that is being referred to, but a lolcow in some other forum.
If you find images where that tag has not been appropriately added, or where the image it is on is breaking Rule #0, please report it.
Otherwise, if the image is not rule breaking, why shouldn’t people be able to avoid that phrase if they don’t like it or don’t want to see it or images that have it?
Kincyr
Non-Fudgsicle Token
as an aside, there is also an
op is a duck (reaction image) tag purely to differentiate said reaction images from actual duckery.as the
op is a faggot tag is meant for instances of the old meme, and only for those, I can understand why the tag doesn’t have (meme) or (reaction image) in the name. I also completely understand the concern/request to add one of those to the name to avoid confusion/misunderstandings NightStalker
@Ciaran
You have to remember, most people are not smart. We are the lucky few. If we are allowed to call OP a duck, we’re allowed to say OP is starting shit, we’re allowed to say op needs to stop, we’re allowed to say OP isn’t trying anymore, but we’re not allowed to say that OP is a faggot.
You have to remember, most people are not smart. We are the lucky few. If we are allowed to call OP a duck, we’re allowed to say OP is starting shit, we’re allowed to say op needs to stop, we’re allowed to say OP isn’t trying anymore, but we’re not allowed to say that OP is a faggot.
Yet to a purely cursory glance, we’re provided the tools (The existing tags) to do all of those things, including to call OP a faggot. I personally find that rather strange and misleading. Yes I know that the tag description specifies, but be honest with yourself…most people don’t read those. When I first saw the tag, I thought it was cut and dry, unambiguous and didn’t need explanation so I didn’t look at it (I saw “OP is a faggot” and thought, okay it’s calling OP a faggot, simple).
As yet another alternative suggestion, you could change the other tags to something along the lines of
uploader needs to stop but leave the “meme” one as OP. Just something to differentiate them so it’s more clear that they have completely different usages. Ciaran
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@NightStalker
Agreed. Tags should describe the image. All other tags could be wiped, as far as I’m concerned. But it’s not my call, and doing so would take time and interest that I don’t have to spare right now. Maybe later.
Agreed. Tags should describe the image. All other tags could be wiped, as far as I’m concerned. But it’s not my call, and doing so would take time and interest that I don’t have to spare right now. Maybe later.
TexasUberAlles
Maybe adding newbie-confusing relic tags like
op is a faggot and not salmon or whatever to the Default filter would help? It would at least let people get used to the place and how it operates before assuming that every tag is a concrete thing with no history behind it.Actually I’m a bit confused at how many of the regular arglebargle catalyst tags aren’t in the Default filter already.
Background Pony #AFC5
@TexasUberAlles
Why? There are 110 files tagged op is a faggot, and most of them are old.
Do people find the files accidentally and use them in comments?
Why? There are 110 files tagged op is a faggot, and most of them are old.
Do people find the files accidentally and use them in comments?
JP
I miss the show so much
Should
kinktober2024 be aliased into the correct kinktober 2024, because it is misspelled so often? The problem goes away in a week, so it’s not a big deal. NightStalker
@TexasUberAlles
I brought this up initially because someone posted some “Downvote Bait”, and another user tagged it as “OP is a faggot” despite having zero reference to the meme. They were using it as an insult, which led me to believe that the entire purpose of the tag was to insult the uploader.
I brought this up initially because someone posted some “Downvote Bait”, and another user tagged it as “OP is a faggot” despite having zero reference to the meme. They were using it as an insult, which led me to believe that the entire purpose of the tag was to insult the uploader.
Background Pony #AFC5
@NightStalker
Wow, “duck” is actually a synonym of “faggot” in British English https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/42108
Wow, “duck” is actually a synonym of “faggot” in British English https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/42108
Background Pony #52BA
I just discovered non-pony oc exists and already is implied by deer oc and dragon oc. Does it need to get aaaaaalllllllll of the other non-pony species oc tags to imply it?
Litrojia 
I might’ve posted about this before, but is there a tag for images that exist just to show tag counts? I filter out a lot of them with derpimilestone (you can tell this tag wasn’t made by a regular user) and the complex expression “tags, milestone”, but a lot of these images aren’t milestones. I’d argue they should be against the rules for being pointless spammy garbage but that’s beside the point.
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