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And also betray a friend with her Marer Do Well and use many in her Walking Dead prank, and also betray the CMC for Cozy and betray many to steal from Queen Novo.
Like anakin
You either die a hero
or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
While I don’t completely agree with that assesment since certain events can change a person, you DO bring up a good point about Twilight herself…
Did any of us fans ever assume that Twilight was strong willed in nature? Her being ‘the central focus character for a while’ is a perfectly okay reason for saying yes, although you have to admit it dodges the issue.
On a side note, I realized that if this image was made and posted right after S3 was finished, when the fandom was the most defensive towards itself, this picture would of gotten 9 to 10 upvotes and maybe 60 or 70 downvotes in a day. In the wake of Rainbow Rocks and other recent material, it has gotten the opposite effect on this site. Obviously, our collective opinion has changed on this matter.
get a awesome memorial for your trouble though!
And for the case of strong-willed immortals, I refer you to the “Tyrant Celestia” tag.
You seem to be considering quote in personal scope. No villain and no hero has ever considered themselves that (and people who brag about being heroes tend to be portrayed as villains, or are villains). The meaning as I get it is not personal, it’s of public - either people are remembered as heroes because they haven’t been around for long enough, or they will start to be seen as villains because they’re around and their actions, even if identical, stopped being heroic relative to situation.
Like a knight who defeated all their enemies. Either they will pass away and live in obscurity while their legend is spread, or the people will see them doing nothing and start spreading dirty lies, eventually changing the legend of the hero into one of the villain.
Or, as in Harvey’s case (even if he wasn’t a paragon of justice before that…) something happens to them that sharply changes their publicity, and they’re faced with choice of going away or being seen as “evil” or “bad”. And if you call someone a pig a hundred times, they’ll start to oink…
I’d ban the whole fucking lot of you if I didn’t think I’d get shit canned in turn.
It a god damned cartoon. You are shit posting about animated horses and a cliché quote as if this is the only thing in the world that matters! Get some fucking perspective!
That kind of takes things in a completely different direction.
I’m not saying good people don’t turn bad, just that this quote implies they all will eventually.
I may not have worded my initial comment quite as I intended.
I’m not shittalking the film, I didn’t even see it, I’m blaming the guys who want to be deep.
What does this have to do with redemption stories? That’s a totally different thing.
Redemption is a character figuring out what’s right and striving to be better, it’s about being strong enough to fight for that.
I may have worded it a bit harshly in my initial comment, because yes, sometimes good people slip and do the wrong things. But to become completely evil, and embrace that, that’s a lack of strength, a lack of willpower.
I’m just saying it’s not the film’s fault it becomes an overused meme that next to nobody understands the actual context for.
Alright, so it’s reflective of one guy.
…Can we stop using it in regard to EVERYTHING now? It’s kinda annoying.
Even some of the best people, especially in politics, aren’t universally loved and seen as heroes. As time goes on, leaders have to make hard decision, be they mistakes or not, and be the “bad guy” to serve what they feel is the better good.
As a public figure who probably would have spent his entire life in politics had he not suffered what he had, it’s understandable that Harvey Dent would have that philosophy. After all, nobody can be Gotham’s new shining hope for a better tomorrow, forever.
So yeah, the quote is simply a reflection of Dent personal ideas and personal experience.
The fact that he becomes Two Face in the end just makes it all the more tragically ironic.
Ok, you crossed the line, time to stop this.