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I wasn’t much of fan either I’m somewhat rambling and trying to put together a scenario that sorta fits and that I can live with. I honestly really hope they don’t fall into the trap of bringing him back a bunch, as that IMO is when the damage would really start to get irreparable and it might start to get really cringe worthy. Like how they kept bringing the Q back in voyager and they just degraded and lost all there mystery and coolness to the point one of them ends up being threatened with a MUSKET… and it’s sort of implied this actually works.
If he does come back again I really hope they don’t use him as a generic good guy/“I win button”. There was a hint of ambiguity at the end about how much he’d really reformed if he came back at all I’d hope they played with that to make him sort of a “proper” trickster type character occasionally sort of helpful, but always with a barb or a catch somewhere.
My issues with the episode are as follows.
>Since Discord is established as a serious threat, whatever Celestia needed him for must’ve been really important, but there was no sense of urgency. The episode did nothing to make me believe that whatever Celestia wanted from him was worth the risk.
>Celestia cast a spell on the Elements to protect them, but she did that in “Return of Harmony,” and it didn’t work.
>It didn’t do enough to make me believe Fluttershy’s friendship meant anything to him.
I always looked at him pretty much the same as Q, maybe slightly more spastic and a bit less powerful, but ultimately not too dissimilar. Q repeatedly put the star trek crews in possibly life threatening situation sometimes for borderline “shits and giggles” reasons, but it’s hard to call him out and out evil. With the power he has it’s clear he could just kill or enslave everyone instantly if he really was “evil”.
That said my issue isn’t so much his character or where it went as his power level. It was okay for a one-off villain, but having him out and about and nominally allied with the main cast causes all sorts of story telling issues of the “why can’t Discord just fix this” to any major problem variety. I personally think the elements freeing, but depowering him a great deal (somewhat ala Deja Q) could have made things work better and not brought up so many questions.
Being de-powered and perhaps starting to realize how much it sucks to be bullied about for the first time might also have been a more plausible reason for him to reconsider things. You can slip some message about bullying in there and also still have the forgiveness stuff. Rather then just “oh one person was kind of nice to him so suddenly I’m a good guy”.
Still even with what we got at least his reform was at least kind of ambiguous, Celestia at least certainly didn’t seem entirely convinced by it. I’d almost wonder if this hadn’t been attempted before. We don’t have any real details of discords “reign” it tends to be assumed in allot of fanon to have been long and brutal, but it could just as easily have been similar to what we in S2, he went off the deep end, ran wild for a bit, and then got blasted.
Perhaps what we saw in Flutter on was closer to his ground state, kind of a dick, but not so evil that he seems beyond hope. He obviously has almost no self-control though so is probably quite prone to just pushing it too far. Perhaps the sister had tried stuff like this way back when, but ultimately he always relapsed and did something so outrageous he had to be imprisoned.
It might have been like a sort of cycle: lock him up cause he goes too far, let him stew for a while and then release him and try to keep him in line, it works for awhile but his nature gets the better of him sooner or later and forces them to lock him up again. Almost adds a somewhat tragic aspect to the entire thing, he just can’t HELP but go too far eventually. It’s just his nature, but he doesn’t seem malevolent he never seems to kill anyone or cause irreversible damage, so they feel bad about it and keep futility trying to reform him ‘for good’ (double meaning intended).
I know. It’s like some kind of drug, right?
Twilicorn makes me excited for the future of the show.
No way dude. 4 seasons of ponies are way too few. we need at least 10 :-)
Hell. The last season could be 13 eps if that would make it easier. Just wrap things up for various characters and have a finale.
Unless of course if S4 hits a high note and/or the spark is lost. Then one should call it quits.
Just for the sidekicks was a pretty good episode…
For every single one of you.
They probably have some of the earlier episodes of the season nearly (if not entirely) finished by now. It’s the later episodes that have only just finished with the storyboarding phase.
Yeah, as much of a pony fanatic as I am. I’am still aware that the dev team are only humans like us, they make mistakes, they need to rest, they have personal lives to deal with.
No they haven’t. Sombra enslaved the crystal ponies, but everyone under the influence of Discords power was his slave. Chrysalis tried to take over Equestria, but Discord took over Equestria twice. Nightmare Moon is the only one who outdoes him.
But he also had an immense amount of hubris and let them take a free shot.
Looks like just Ponyville to me. And again, villains in the show have done worse than him.
He might not have been the most evil, but he did seem tho be the greatest threat. He had these vast powers that he wielded without any regard for who he might hurt and nothing short of the Elements of Harmony could stop him.
Hah! I was about to say :P
As far as the whole “best villain” debate goes, it can go on forever and has been argued to death, so I won’t go further.
And since Journey of the Spark is a fan-made project and will take considerable time to complete. If they attempted to keep it canon it would never be released due to the never-ending updates/changes.
That being said, it looks epic (not in the trite and overused “bro that’s so epic” sense but in the traditional and literary sense; how the story is going to be told will be more meaningful than the story itself).
But Discord did take over Equestria. Rather effortlessly even.
>Mass Suicide?
FOR THE PONIES!!!!!
I always felt that Discord was neutral rather than evil, so I don’t really have trouble imagining him working with the good guys and still being his mischievous chaotic self. I just felt the episode could have been handled better.
Typo, sorry.