@Background Pony #0287
just say nobody lovves you honestly if you claim to only showw compassion to struggleing people if they elevvate your status or are useful then clearly your a sticky degenerate wwho smells like farts bitch

Yes, Twilight should feel guilty.

@Background Pony #CCE2  
Not really classified as “narrow-minded” when the resolution to the finale does not result in Redemption at all like we were hoping it would build up to.
 
We all saw the episodes where the Trio worked together and slowly became friends, all that was needed to make it possible was for Grogar to actually remain as Grogar and have him betray them at the moment of his own assured victory, be it a betrayal of character where Grogar attempts not just at conquest, but at complete and total indescriminate genocide where EVERYONE is classified as his enemy. Faced with this oblivion, the Trio who slowly befriended one-another would now find themselves not in the prospect of ruling Equestria, but to now lord and toil over a world with no life on it whatsoever in the name of Grogar; a profound loneliness that would fill the three of them with much sorrow and regret, that they would now be determined to do anything to prevent the demented future from coming to pass, even if it meant joining forces with the Ponies to stop it. And as the fighting intensified against the now completely monstrous threat of Grogar; Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow would find themselves working alongside ponies that were their own personal adversaries for the sake of mutually-assured survival, something that Cozy Glow would now get completely as the CMC reach out for her after their regret to truly befriend her during the School of Friendship Arc, with even Princess Twilight now wanting to distance herself from the sort of rulership that Celestia had been known for in cutting off ties and friendships for 1000 years and leaving a trail of broken promises in her wake following what happened with Princess Luna. Or have Ocellus confronting her own personal fear directly about turning out just like Chrysalis: whom we would learn was actually Ocellus’ own mother all this time. And Tirek encountering his long-time estranged younger brother Scorpan and learn that jnlike what Celestia did in erasing every single detail of her sisters existence as Nightmare Moon and left her in a world without anything to her name, Scorpan chose to have their people remember Tirek for his lifetime of valiant service and dedication: that he was still as respected as ever before, and that when Scorpan learned what exactly Celestia did to imprison Tirek without reaching out to him in any way like what Starswirl had done with him filled the Gargoyle brother prince with both shame and disappointment, vowing to ask for Celestia to be better than that.
 

 
Now tell me that something like THAT doesn’t sound like a strong note to end the series off on for a final climactic battle.

@Whistle Blossom
 
@Whistle Blossom  

 

 
I already know discussing this would be pointless based on that statement alone. I have no interest in talking to people with narrowminded viewpoints.

@Background Pony #CCE2  
That was in the finale, which never should have even existed in the first place. Besides, it was Discord’s fault.

@deathsia  
delet ur face

@Background Pony #189E  
That’s not the real Cozy Glow. In 1003 ANM, Cozy Glow found the Mirror Pool and created several Mirror Pool Clones of herself that would serve as the foundation of her early security detail. On a routine infiltration mission to find where her Red Rook was, Cozy Glow and her Tree was caught up and pulled sideways in time by Starlight Glimmers’ modified Time Travel Spell: cutting her link to several of her Clones that she was telepathically connected with through her Hive Mind. One of these Clones was CHG-080 “Chaste Glitter”, a known and recognized Deviant Clone built with the purpose of infiltration and information-gathering who would become the “Cozy Glow” we would follow in the series at large. Due to being cut off from Cozy’s Hive Mind and practically lobotomized caused Chaste Glitter to slowly descend into insanity and madness until she was the last of the Infiltrator-Series Clones left in the field: having killed her other clone siblings in a bid to assume power.

@Background Pony #BE50
 
Lol, I didn’t hate her until she gave me a reason to. I’m sorry that your foal-loli waifu is being panned as the heartless villain she actually is. :P

Yeah, like usual the cozy glow haters just come here to tell to ruin the mood of everyone instead of ignoring the comment section, hit the downvote button and call the day. I guess that /mlp/ trolls really love to ruin any Cozy Glow picture

@Background Pony #E48E
 
and now your pulling at straws to justify yourself. I have provided more than enough solid evidence to prove why Cozy Glow was beyond redemption but you obviously are not listening.
 
I say that we can’t tell what kind of power Starlight is putting out, you go and assume based on ZERO EVIDENCE that the power was lethal when we can’t tell either way.
 
I point out that magic is obviously at work providing people with food and nourishment otherwise Tirek and all the other magical creatures would have starved to death long ago. You go and assume everyone just “doesn’t eat” which is a SERIOUSLY STUPID assumption to make since ponies have been shown to need to eat throughout the series CONSTANTLY. Even if Tirek doesn’t Cozy and every other creature in there DOES.
 
I’m done talking. Think what you like, no matter what SOLID EVIDENCE i provide, you’re just going to rebut it with your narrow-minded viewpoints.

delete this

@Background Pony #189E  
Starlight also had pretty much the same reaction Cozy did at first and weather or not you like her redemtion, it happened and Cozy deserves the same. Same with Discord and Stygian. In school raze, all Twilight did was ask her why Cozy did it and told her she was wrong, followed by her students comforting her with no rehabilitation attempt made. Heck, even Chrysalis was given more of an attempt then her, a literal child.
 
And yes, Starlight did attack Twilight with lethel force. It marely didn’t have the same effect either due to Twilight blocking it or Cozy having more power at the time due to the bell.
 
As for Tartarus, both Cozy and Tirek survived in there without eating.
 
Past reformed villains did things that were just as horrible as what Cozy did and Discord even relapsed with Tirek, yet was immedietly forgiven afterwards.
 
So yes, Twilight does indeed deserve her guilt for failing to even try to get someone to reform Cozy.

@Background Pony #BE50  
@Background Pony #E48E
 
 
For starters its hard to gauge just how much power was behind that spell due to it hitting Twilight’s shield and nothing else. The streaks of magical energy coursing along the sides of the shield could be of killing strength or merely powerful enough to incapacitate a group of ponies but a magical beam that can dig into the ground DEEPLY could EASILY pierce flesh and kill anypony it hit.
 
I DO NOT believe Starlight’s redemption was okay, in fact, I feel it was BS but UNLIKE COZY, she didn’t have any blatantly obvious attempts to kill anypony. Cozy Glow on the other hand, tried killing Twilight and co not once BUT TWICE, when she trapped them in Tartarus on the eve of magic supposed to be vanishing from equestria which meant that (and this is assuming this prison provides food and nourishment via magic) she had, for intents and purposes left the main six TO STARVE TO DEATH in Tartarus.
 
On top of all this, Cozy Glow never gave Twilight a chance to offer her redemption and the one time she had, she threw it back in her face. School Raze  
There was no attempt to throw her in tartarus at this point, it wasn’t until she disregarded everything Twilight had said and tried to run off that she was then captured and imprisoned.
 
Those acts, to me, show she is beyond redemption.

@Background Pony #189E  

 
Good. Fuck ’em.

@Background Pony #189E  
If other villains deserve second chances then so did Cozy, especially since she’s a child who was previously a student of hers. I’d feel very guilty in her place.
 
But at least she was proven right again as Background Pony #BE50 pointed out.

@Background Pony #189E  

 
A beam that would kill? Yeah something like that happened but surprise, this pony actually got redemption because she is a powerful unicorn that would be a great ally for the future ruler of equestria  

Based on:  

@Background Pony #BE50  
Are we completely forgetting the series finale? SHE FIRED A BEAM OF MAGIC AT TWILIGHT AND CO THAT CREATED A DEEP TRENCH ALONG THE GROUND! Which means if it had hit ANY OF THEM…  
>>2090325p (deleted)
 
So tell me, how is she innocent again? That kind of act IS BEYOND REDEMPTION.
 
And no, I DO NOT agree with starlights redemption in fact I 100% with a post made by another user awhile back:  

 
Main difference between both:  
-Starlight Glimmer is a powerful unicorn that would be a great ally for Twilight  
-Cozy Glow is just a pegasus that make Twilight look incompetent managing a school for leaving powerful relics that can drain the magic of equestria in the school without any kind of real supervision
 
Why even bother to redeem something that will never be useful to you? Friendship is power after all and Twilight use the friendship to turn in the new ruler of equestria

@Background Pony #E48E
 
Why does she deserve it? that “innocent little filly” tried to kill her and anypony else who tried to stop her as she attempt to take over equestria!
 
So tell me again why she should feel guilt?

Good. Evil filly needs her time out.
 
…Just remember petrification isn’t 100% permanent.

Guilt feels bad, but I guess Twilight deserves it.