@Background Pony #E826  
Entre Macron qui a dit clairement qu’il se passerait de l’assemblée et du sénat et Le Pen qui disait qu’elle allait mettre en en place un référendum d’initiative populaire je pense que le meilleur choix est évident : si elle avait menti toutes les manifestations qui l’auraient forcé a quitter le pouvoir auraient été justifiés, si elle avait tenu paroles alors les supporteurs de mélenchon auraient pu bloqué des lois et en faire passer mais bon, on préfère beugler des slogans a la con plutôt qu’utiliser sa tête ces temps ci

C quand même fou de voir qu’ils ont voulu le choléra a la peste, voter contre au lieu de virer les deux mais voila. (dans l’ensemble on peut pas juger de ce qu’elle aurait fait vu que son partie n’est jamais arriver à l’Elysée, contrairement aux autres tâche qui nous l’ont durant des mandats) ça fait plus de 200 ans que la politique est là qui lustre le peuple.

@Background Pony #84C0  
Je ne peut que te renvoyer aux aveux de Lionel Jospin sur l’anti fascisme de pacotille qui nous ait resservi a chaque élections. De plus il est dans les lignes directrices des services secrets français de protéger la république, pour cela ils ont un œil sur les partis politiques, tous les partis politiques : Si le FN était ce gouffre de l’enfer que nos zélites bourgeoises et néo-libérales aiment a déplorer pourquoi n’est t-il pas simplement dissous ? Si le vieux et sa clique ont fait bobo a tes émotions et bien je ne peut que t’inviter a déchirer ta carte d’électeur, les infantilisés dans ton genre sont nocifs pour la démocratie (la preuve, vous avez veauté pour quelqu’un qui vous a regardé dans les yeux et vous a dit qu’il allait se passé de l’assemblée et du sénat, pas très démocratique tous ça)

@rosu  
Les gens qui ne croient pas tout ce qu’on leur dit sur 4Chan ou Jeuxvideo.com pour commencer.Et puis il y a ceux qui se souviennt des bons mots de Papa Le Pen et des chambres à gaz ce minuscule “point de détail”,du bal autrichien de Fifille Le Pen,du rebeu noyé en 1995 par les militants des Le Pen,de Léon Gaultier ,collaborateur notoire qui a cofondé le parti avec Papa Le Pen et par dessus du relent de sottise éhonté et d’aveuglement de l’électorat du skinhead moyen que l’on cache sous le voile pudique de “dédiabolisation”,la couche de peinture appliqué à la va vite pour cacher les moissisures.Alors vois tu en me rappelant ces points de détails,on vient éventuellement à se poser des questions  
Tu les traduis pour SeraphimDawn ces points là s’il te plait,parce que à ma grande surprise,notre cher Seraphim n’a pas trouvé ces infos sur les “médias alternatifs” si cher à son coeur,c’est quand même embêtant avoue-le,les futur empires médiatique de la contre culture Internet et des photos rigolotes de grenouilles à moustache en brosse que constitue 4Chan,Info Wars et toute la clique du Raptor Dissident à Sam Hyde en passant par Dieudonné,pas foutu capable de glaner 2-3 infos que j’ai dégotter en 2-3 secondes  
Tout ceci ,cher petits amis est fort bien emmerdant

@SeraphimDawn  
indeed they were caught by surprise , because even many of the people voting for brexit like sargon didn’t actually think they were going to win , but they did and that enabled trump to overcome the election fraud in the us election , the power structure has wised up though finally and right now it appears is a big movement time on the world for them , infowars has practically put everything they’re selling half off they’re this serious about our situation
 
and here i am being a brony faggot on a pig farm for summer work with little time to pay attention to what i hopped would be more calmer times heading into the trump presidency but turned out to continue to accelerate in this great time of the quickening…..

@Genevamode  
It’s a set back.  
But don’t throw in the towel as hopeless as it seems. Keep fighting.  
Learn from our errors. And don’t discount miracles.

@SeraphimDawn  
Oh well, they had their chance.

@Genevamode  
They aren’t even trying to hide their totalitarian antics.  
Marine Le Pen was right.

@SeraphimDawn  
Oh yeah, I saw that earlier. Wasn’t really surprised in the slightest.

@Genevamode  
Also, many of the “alternative medias” are mostly English speaking. They have yet to expand into different languages and many of those who do speak fluent English in EU states, are left leaning.
 
Also,
 
This is going to be troublesome.

@SeraphimDawn  
Europe is tired of war. Even a bad peace is better, in their eyes, than rebuilding the ol’ hometown.
 
Have Chicago or San Francisco in rubble and see how fast us Americans want to go to war again.

@SeraphimDawn  
They should have been tipped off by the fact that we resisted the Euro. People here have always been one of the more nationalistic amongst the Europeans. But this upcoming election, I predict that Labour is going to get decimated. Total landslide.

@Genevamode  
They were caught by surprise.

@SeraphimDawn  
In fairness, it seems to be working quite well in England.

@Background Pony #AA19  
Also, there was too little time between the first and second rounds of the election.
 
Nationalist populism will have to adjust a bit to the demographics in Europe if they ever want to get anywhere. But still stick to the same message more or less.  
It’s clear Trump’s All American brand of populism isn’t working there as well as many thought.

@iamli3  
…because they own the media.
 
control the media, print the schoolbooks and the press, decide which writer or comic artist has the right to be published, which singer can be broadcasted and be popular, which show and news or political analyst and everything will fit the same, formatted opinion.
 
and that’s where democracy is broken, because power can corrupt literally everything.
 
Macron is certainly the least popular freshly elected president. now, it’s about time to unite, put our ideas in common and find a way to get out of that mess.

lol

@Background Pony #DB1B  
election fraud comes in more forms than just ballot tampering , we have the macron leaks , the fake stream media refused to cover it , the internet wasn’t on the ball this time it seemed to virally get the info out , this is something closer to a hilerally clinton corruption problem that’s being revealed by these massive leak dumps , but nobody is covering them idk why , only infowars has covered just a couple of them….

@patachu  
En effet, ils nous ont volé l’élection. Dans les années a venir il faudra réserver une place spéciale pour Flamby et Flambis : une telle entreprise de subvertion d’élections démocratique devra rester dans les anales. Il va falloir ce battre, ironiquement tout commence pour nous avec cette défaite. Le front républicain n’est plus parfait sur le monde politique (NDA nous l’a prouvé) et seulement 25% des inscrits ont voté Macron de bonne foi. Je sais que c’est paradoxale mais nous ne devons pas relâcher nos efforts aujourd’hui

@Scamper  
I know she will still be there in 22. but I also think it’s time for us, and I mean all the patriots, all of us who want to live in France and not an EU state… to unite, and create a new party, a new force, something strong enough that ties republicans, nationalists, identitarians, people who want freedom, or people who want to actually work, and not be paid by the gov to shut up and keep a low profile.
 
de-ringardizing the right, because I also see a lot of enthusiasm in the ranks of Mélenchon, we have the same opinion on savage liberalism and the EU.  
That’s how we will atomize Macron or we won’t.

@rosu  
ironically, Macron is more authoritarian than Le Pen.  
however, people are still controlled by what the TV/news tells them. that’s a huge problem.  
After searching a bit more i found out these elections were the least democratic ones that ever took place, lot of disrespectancies in procedures of recount, biased media, censorship…
 
Flanby has really fucked us royally.

@Background Pony #DB1B  
wait and see, im sure that even if frauds were found they would keep Macron in place because he’s the perfect neo-liberal candidate who will wage war with everybody if they needed him to do so

Nazi ? Who the fuck is still naive enough to think the FN in 2017 is a nazi party ?

@iamli3  
Be careful to not conflate the primaries with the elections. The primaries were a shit-show, but they are not elections - they’re private “Presidential Preference” polls performed by the parties, and the only laws concerning them are really how much the parties can be charged for the use of state resources to hold their primaries, and the automatic addition of the winners of the private party primaries to the actual election.
 
All of the claims of fraud during the actual elections have proved to be without evidence, except for a handful of specific cases.

@Scamper  
epic comment XD
 
anyways there was documented mass election fraud before the french election just like with the us election so now we need to agitate for impeaching macron with the dirt we have from the macron leaks….