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Trump’s My Little Pony script writer Twilight Sparkle debuts #NeverTrixie campaign initiative at #RNCinCLE

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Background Pony #B01E
Frankly, the image compares this whole “#NeverTrixie” thing with the whole #NeverTrump #NeverHillary thing. But really, I’d just vote Twilight in the first place, if it’s Trump vs. Hillary, it should really be Discord by the easel rather than Twilight: Discord’s crazy, but he’s not a bad guy all the time, whereas Trixie’s a self-centered and egotistical liar. I mean picture Discord in Twilight’s place here…see, it makes too much sense, doesn’t it?
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@AaronMk  
Good point, and I just read some of it. I guess what I meant by “genius” was that your not just a person that says “LOL, Raynbow Dash loox so funy :-D” or stuff like that; that they actually form political views, and since I just read it, somewhat valid ones.
Background Pony #B01E
I see the massive debate here, I probably will read it later, it looks really interesting, but no matter the outcome, or the opinion I take, I’m certain at the end I’ll think to myself, “you know a person’s smart if they like ponies, guaranteed”. Seriously, why are us MLP fans such geniuses?!?
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@Background Pony #FAA2  
We covered this already. “They do it too” wasn’t an acceptable excuse when you were five years old, and it’s not an acceptable excuse now.
 
Also, as I mentioned, that issue with crime isn’t going away unless black people feel like they can trust police, and right now, that trust is hard to come by.
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Did somebody say “PER CAPITA”?
 
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Black-on-white murders per black capita are ~14 times higher than white-on-black murders per white capita. Black-on-black murders per black capita are ~60 times higher than white-on-black murders per white capita. But check the numbers in a calculator, because I suck at math. Right now I don’t really see the kind of effect that you can account for by using the term “institutional racism” or “bias”.
 
This being said, I don’t support the killing of unarmed black people by policemen who neglect proper arrest procedure and due process and often fail to understand the law themselves. There is no excuse for shooting a man who was already subdued on the ground.
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@TexasUberAlles  
“Although black men make up only 6 percent of the U.S. population, they account for 40 percent of the unarmed men shot to death by police this year”
 
Do you really want see the per capita numbers for crimes committed? Because that sure doesn’t help you.
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@Background Pony #A70A  
just so much chaff to you, right?
 
I can write my own dialogue without your help, thanks, but since you want to want to make this about White people, let’s see what the numbers are like; from ProPublica:
The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police.
The black boys killed can be disturbingly young. There were 41 teens 14 years or younger reported killed by police from 1980 to 2012. 27 of them were black; 8 were white; 4 were Hispanic and 1 was Asian.
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From the Washington Post:
Although black men make up only 6 percent of the U.S. population, they account for 40 percent of the unarmed men shot to death by police this year, The Post’s database shows. In the majority of cases in which police shot and killed a person who had attacked someone with a weapon or brandished a gun, the person who was shot was white. But a hugely disproportionate number — 3 in 5 — of those killed after exhibiting less threatening behavior were black or Hispanic.
From the Chicago Tribune:
According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.
U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times as great as the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.
Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) - such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri -175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw number there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation’s population.”
And, when considering shootings confined within a single race, a black person shot and killed by police is more likely to have been unarmed than a white person. About 13 percent of all black people who have been fatally shot by police since January 2015 were unarmed, compared with 7 percent of all white people.
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@TexasUberAlles
 
And all the examples of white people shot without provocation are just so much chaff to you, right?
 
Shootings like this only ever happen to blacks amirite? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/14/trigger-happy-or-well-trained-police-in-fresno-calif-release-video-of-dylan-noble-shooting/
 
The problem with the police isn’t racism, it’s that they like to shoot people regardless of the shade of their skin. Why are you trying to make it about race when it’s about unaccountable, out of control LEOs who are above the law?
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@Datte-Before-Dawn  
when police are dispatched on the scene, they are given a full status report on the suspect’s arrest history and any warrants they currently have out for their arrests
 
I’m not talking about LEOs in general being dispatched for a BOLO on a specific individual, I’m talking about the many and various highly publicized incidents that fit the description of “Black guy gets shot for no readily apparent reason by a cop who wasn’t responding to any description more detailed than ‘Black male’ or ‘driving a van’ “. A list of priors as long as the arm of The Law is 100% irrelevant to an incident if the responders don’t even know about it until after the fact. That’s the entire reason why dirt basic training in every department in the country is to wait until the plates are run before approaching a vehicle at a traffic stop, because it changes the way you deal with a simple moving violation if the perpetrator has a lengthy felony record; the problem with most of these high profile cases is that a profile is the only foreknowledge of the subject/suspect that the soon-to-be-(in)famous cop had, and when the victim does end up having a record, that only comes out later because dogwhistle racists dug it up to use it as an excuse. It just plain does not matter what kind of crimes a suspect may or may not have committed in the past, what determines the legal justification of any official response is what they are or aren’t doing during that response. Even scumbags still have a right to due process; we gave the goddamn Nazi high command a fair trial, and defendants literally do not get any more obviously guilty than that.
 
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I’m going to say this about Twitter since I’m here (or rather: I left, realized I had a thing, and came back):
 
Twitter is a terrible conversation medium with its character cap and in so far as championing causes only lets one to go as far as sloganeering or memetics. It doesn’t allow actual thoughtful argument or debate, though that’s if Facebook is really a better medium in that regard.
 
But to also draw conclusions based on the popular expressed oppinion on a certain demographic from Twitter is a poor strategy. In part because those actively and loudly talking about a subject may be those with the most extreme, violent, or personal views on the matter. To use Twitter as evidence in that regard should really come with some severe study of the people tweeting to compile basically a census with a comparison of whose saying what compared to others versus those not saying anything but who may be in support; which is in itself difficult without sending everyone on Twitter a questionnaire and asking them to fill out their opinions as well as basic demographic information.
 
For that matter, and on that level there’s the Pew Research Center which provides a much more comprehensive library of opinion polls and demographics on issues such as these.
 
But for fuck’s sakes: posting a collection of screenshots of carefully selected individuals as evidence that black Americans want to kill cops is poor form and in my old history of debating a matter I would have not only been shut down; I would have been murdered for that sort of tact. I’d have to back it up materially with something like Pew and post and explain why it’s related to le zoomed text meme’ing.
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@Datte-Before-Dawn  
There’s more I could have said, but I’m not going to press the point since you’ve expressed your desire to end this twice.
 
I also had a slight issue posting my last response - it went through, but I had to prove that I wasn’t a robot, which has never happened to me here. I assume it’s the volume of text, although it could also be the multiple links I used in that post.
 
There are two points I can’t resist making:
 
Twitter is my main source of seeing all those gross celebrations of police deaths and praising riots.
Twitter should never be your main source of anything except evidence of the ignorance and biliousness of the public. Anyone can say any damn thing, and that gives horrible, stupid, inconsequential people a voice that they never should have had.
 
Also I don’t want to be that guy…but HuffPo and WaPo are not reliable sources.
I’m not a fan of HuffPo; they wear their politics on their sleeve in a way that’s almost as bad as some other sources I’m not going to mention. I haven’t seen them lie, though. WaPo is often considered to have a liberal editorial slant, but they’re actually a fairly reputable paper. I’ll grant you that they’re extremely anti-Trump, but I can hardly blame them for it.
 
I guess that’s that then, but I’m subscribed to this comment thread, so if you feel like picking this up again, I’m down for it.
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I’m sorry, Im going to have to bow out prematurely out of debating, some stuff is happening I have to deal with and I would rather not deal with that plus the tension of debates at the same time, so I accept the leaver’s penalty and forfeit, making you the victor
 
Sorry Vitruvious, was enjoyable debating with you, thanks for that
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@StrawmanUberAlles  
lmao the Snopes article you linked summed up with “J-just because they’re doing Crips things d-doesn’t mean he was a crip!”. No actual evidence or proof of fakery.  
You’re gonna have to do better than that, yo.
 
I already said the officer involved in Tamir’s shooting was in the wrong, I merely explained the thought process and to them, the justification for being on edge (suspect who was not said to be 12 years old threatening people with a weapon [no one told them it was fake]). In face of evidence though, whether me and you like it or not, as preventable as his death was, the two officers involved were not indicted (as everything could be attributed to “human error, mistakes and miscommunications” and not “le pigs are out to get us”), proving once again that knee-jerk lynch mob justice isn’t alive in well in the US yet and evidence still prevails as the main way to win a case. Much to people’s dismay, I’m sure.
 
But for are your bleeding heart virtue signaling, you fail to address that even WaPo admits that an overwhelming 95% of police shootings are justified. WaPo of all sites. That extremely small 5% are unclear or unjustified. Again, hardly the epidemic you people love saying it is, with only 8% of those 5% leading to proof of misconduct and negligence punishable by law.
 
Due process goes out the window when an officer’s life is threatened. That’s the risk you run when you resist arrest. At that point, it’s either them or the thug trying to kill them (how very leftist of you to throw out hard facts as “childish arguments”). Like I said, when shootings are CLEARLY unjustified, like the therapist who was calming his autistic patient when he got shot or the sleeping child who was killed in a no-knock raid, I’m right there with you on taking those guy’s badges and getting justice, so I don’t know why you keep waving that flag.
 
majority of cases like this involve no prior knowledge of the individual’s record on the part
 
A majority, eh? Cite your source. One that isn’t HuffPo and WaPo, because I’ve been on ride-alongs, when police are dispatched on the scene, they are given a full status report on the suspect’s arrest history and any warrants they currently have out for their arrests.