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It’s almost as if the show’s staff is giving us something to complain about at the end of a season while we’re waiting for the next season.
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Please don’t be mad.
Ironically, some felt it made her too flawed. I don’t know about “well liked,” In fact, many seem to consider it the “jumping the shark” moment of the MLP comics.
Then again, haters do tend to be more outspoken sometimes. I remember years back many Sonic fans on DA hated the official Sonic comics to the point where almost all you see there was negativity, (what is it about comic adaptions that are so touchy?) yet they’re actually still one of Archie Comics’ most popular, best selling, and longest running, non-Archie comics.
Also, the Archie-Sonic club on DA has twice the members/watchers then the anti-Archie-club did ironically.
Reflections has been very well liked overall; it’s only “controversial” because the people who didn’t like it reeeeeeaaaaaalllllllyyyyyy hated it and made a lot of noise about it. A lot of people who dislike the comics in general ended up liking it in spite of themselves, in fact, because it actually made Celestia a real character with believable motivations and consequences for her actions/inactions, something many fans have been wanting from the show pretty much from the start.
Yeah, though ever sense the comics became a “base breaker,” Big Jim said they’re going to keep them separate canons, as I stated in a previous comment. I don’t think the show runners read them either, or have much desire to adapt anything from the comics.
Also, I’m glad I kinda missed out on that “Good and the Bad” story arc. I have not seen one fan whom enjoyed it, (even from those who still enjoy the comics) and that’s saying something considering I know some whom liked the controversial “Reflections” story arc.
Not ever ganna happen in the show unfortunately
Nothing to suggest that it couldn’t; the only things they punt to the comics as far as story concepts go are specific plot points, not basic entry level stuff like “Characters A,B, and C pal around with Character D”.
@MethidMan
The Discord/CMC issues are definitely some of the best; if you haven’t read any of the IDW comics, those are an excellent place to start to get an idea of how good they can be.
…Don’t start with The Good, The Bad, And The Ponies. Trust me on this as a fan of the comics, that arc is horrid.
Not sure which issues the “CMC & Discord” ones were, but they shouldn’t be too hard to find.
I know, I’m just now curious to check out the comics now that I’ve heard about this.
Not ever ganna happen in the show unfortunately.
Discord and the CMC’s friends? Ooh, this I gotta see~
There was also the ponysona cameos of Katie & Andy cameo’ing in “Princess Spike.” Though, that was just a minor nod to the comics, and didn’t really establish any of it’s canon into the show.
Still, the IDW/comic-haters got quite angry over it regardless, and there was some drama over that. That’s another problem, many fans don’t want any of the comic canon adapted into the show. (And as a result, Big Jim >>830332 stated they’re going to try to keep them separate.) A shame as not all of it was bad, and some things like Discord befriending the CMC could prove amusing.
There are some exceptions. For example, Transformers comics have usually (but not always) been separate from the show. This is basically how everything is treated, resulting in a zillion different continuities of varying size and shape, and everything being canon in a vacuum.
Hell will freeze over before anything the comics has established shows up in the show
For the most part continuity is a one way street, that really is all that’s going on there; as a tie-in for the show, the comics have an obligation to (at least loosely) follow the major events of the show’s continuity, but as the primary source material the show has no such obligation to the comics. A one way street is still a street, though, and since Hasbro owns the ranch the show could use anything from the comics at any time– if they felt like including concepts that would be a year old by the time an episode airs– the same way they’ve done several times now with concepts originally introduced in Berrow’s chapter books. Unless everything is planned out well in advance as a combined media effort, it’s always going to be like that; it has absolutely poof-all nothing to do with the perceived quality of the comics (or lack thereof), as some people constantly try to imply.
@Brony_Conundrum
The show and the comics and the books and the games are all part of MLP canon, but they’re all separate and distinct continuities that use the same characters and locations to tell different stories; they’re essentially all alternate universes of each other. There is zero reason for people to argue about it, because all it takes to Be Right On The Internet™ is saying that you like the show continuity but not the comic continuity because [whatever], and you’re done; no one is required to follow any of the other media unless they want to, because each continuity is self-contained and doesn’t rely on having read or watched any of the others. If you want to incorporate any of them (or all of them, or parts of one and parts of another, etc.) into one big shared universe, there is nothing at all stopping you from assuming that the stories told in one are happening in the background of the other; if you want to reference something that happens in one, all you have to do is preface it with “In the show…” or “In the chapter books…”, and that makes it clear that whatever you’re talking about only optionally applies to whichever medium is being discussed.
Comic books and their media tie-ins have been doing this for decades, and nobody seems to have any problem understanding that Batman in the New 52 comics is not the same as The Brave And The Bold cartoon Batman or the Dark Knight Returns graphic novel Batman or the Cristopher Nolan film Batman or the Adam West TV show Batman. It’s a silly thing to arglebargle about, because all of the different media are using the same basic source concepts to tell their own stories in their own way.
The comics occupy the same place as any other officially licensed tie-in to a large franchise as what’s generally known as secondary canon, wherein any particular detail within them is considered canon unless contradicted by the primary source. The comic writers don’t have access to the show bible and only intermittent access to scripts, so they can’t be certain of upcoming major plots or character arcs. If you want to get nitpicky about it you could call them separate continuities, but then you’re sliding into alternate universe and endless arguments about which particular detail carries between continuities. Best solution is to just put a one-way barrier between comics and show in your head: stuff leaks out of the show into the comics, but only rarely travels in the other direction, so we get to see comic-nerd shining on screen but we’re extremely unlikely to ever see the Umbra ponies (or whatever they were called).
They can be safely ignored if you don’t like the direction they take, and if you do like it then you can happily incorporate them into your vision of Equestria.
And if everyone would just do that, instead of constantly starting fights about them, my job would be significantly easier…
Hell will freeze over before anything the comics has established shows up in the show.
Candace’s characterization? Shining Armour’s past? Moon Dancer’s design? Velvet as the author of daring doo?
Let’s see how many other things the comic introduced get casually ignored
What is the deal with the comics being canon, anyway? Last I heard, Hasbro’s stance was “they’re canon unless we say they aren’t”.
I never quite got that myself; I would have greatly preferred the old fanon of AKY being a nome de plume of Twilight Velvet and her being Daring Do’s ghost writer, but Equestria is already such a fantastical place that it seems silly to get upset over DD’s books being a roman à clef.
@Background Pony #53FA
You know, I never got why so many people were so annoyed by the revelation that Daring Do is real. It’s like, “Okay, we can buy colourful talking ponies, magic, dragons, evil spirits of chaos and shape-shifting emotion eaters… but a fictional character turning out to be real? Well, that’s just going too far.” What sense does that make?
There weren’t a lot of people yelling about Daring Don’t, but the ones who were mad about it were suuuuuuper mad. Even if the concept of DD being AK Yearling wasn’t initially very popular, a lot of the arglebargle seemed to be more about it having been a Dave Polsky episode than the actual content of it, and fortunately the arguing didn’t really persist for very long.
Eh, there wasn’t universal drama, just usual complains about headcanons here and there, usual idw drama, and theories about it being RD’s fanfic.
Happens to everyone, I guess.