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Of all the things you targeted my double-posting. I expected better, even from a gentile.
Let’s not make this messier than it has to be. End it here and now, I won’t hold it against you.
Nice double post you twat.
Oh no! He believes in the 80s. An Eightiest.
Oh no! He believes in the 80s. An Eightiest.
That’s the point. The Israelites want to do to them what they’ve done to the Iraelites and if anyone stands in their way so be it. Like I said it a flawed notion.
Doesn’t matter if it’s a group of them or not, their babies obviously still weren’t the ones that killed the Israelites’ babies.
Yes, revenge was the contextual reason for wanting it to happen, but it’s not a defense that makes the morality any better.
They killed your children, you kill theirs. You’re not referring to one person rather a group of them. Doesn’t matter it is a flawed notion anyway. This is what they want. To make their anger, God’s anger.
No, it doesn’t make it fair, because the babies didn’t do anything. If someone cut off your finger and you cut off their’s, it’d be punishing the person who committed the crime, killing someone’s babies isn’t punishing the right person.
Think of it like this. One guy chops off your finger, then you retaliate by chopping off his finger. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. It doesn’t make it right but it makes it fair.
What? Not really.
It doesn’t make it better. It makes it fair.
I don’t like where this is headed…
Wait, how does that make it any better? Regardless of it being a lamentation, he’s still wishing that innocent babies will be killed as an act of revenge for something that happened to Israel.
For those of you who didn’t understand what I wrote, this is the gist of it.
“You really screwed us over! I hope someone comes along and does to you what you did to us!”
that’s correct. A lot of nations back then said a bunch trash talk to intimidate other nations. Other nations of the time did the exact same thing.
By the rivers of Babylon,
There we sat down, yea, we wept
When we remembered Zion.
2 We hung our harps
Upon the willows in the midst of it.
3 For there those who carried us away captive asked of us a song,
And those who plundered us requested mirth,
Saying, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”
4 How shall we sing the Lord’s song
In a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem,
Let my right hand forget its skill!
6 If I do not remember you,
Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth—
If I do not exalt Jerusalem
Above my chief joy.
7 Remember, O Lord, against the sons of Edom
The day of Jerusalem,
Who said, “Raze it, raze it,
To its very foundation!”
8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed,
Happy the one who repays you as you have served us!
9 Happy the one who takes and dashes
Your little ones against the rock!
no genocide back then wouldn’t have been possible even if they had tried. Most likely they would have decimated the population of other tribes so they would not be a threat. As for genocide in the bible most of what you hear is just basic macho talk that will get other nations talking. Take for instance the land of canaan which heard about the decimation of the Amalekites and the rumored decimation of Egypt which at the time was the superpower of the known world. Now they hear about the cause coming to canaan to claim a home for their people. What do you think sane people are going to do in those times? They will flee to other nations. Only the hardline fanatically religious people will stay. It is assumed only about 5-10% actually stayed in canaan when they heard about Israel coming.
Also even though God said to destroy the canaanites He also said to drive them from the land which would have done the same thing. He also said that if Israel disobeyed Him that he would drive them out the same way that they drove the canaanites out. They certainly didn’t exterminate them.
And no Genocide isn’t justified in any context. They wouldn’t have had the means anyway to cause genocide.
Are you implying that genocide is justified in any context for any reason? Not taking a religious angle here, I’m just curious about what you’ll say since you seem knowledgeable about historical context.
Its one of the reasons why I study historical context related to ancient societies before I say anything.
I’m not sure if this is pure trolling or just a really weak anti-theist statement, in which case OP is proving that fundamentalists do not have a monopoly on stupid argumentation.
Well, in a sense yes, but not equally distributed. Common interest was probably the largest binding force.
At any rate, all of you take your little debate to the general thread, or make a new thread.
That way others can weigh in on it.