@LightningLazer  
Thanks and yeah I really love giving spike the love he deserves mainly because he’s the character I can relate to the most because I always used to feel a little left out on what other people do but now I don’t and as much as I would love to improve flipping it’s also a lot harder than art improvement not to mention dangerous too.

@Goblinette  
If that’s how you see things, then that’s you. While I appreciate your bluntness, telling people to just give up is still not criticism and still wouldn’t help unless that person believes they can’t do it, like I said giving up is that easy. It’s all about learning and understanding.
 
Of course, that was never the case with you and I know you’re not saying that to people just to be an ||yay||hole but the way you go about it is just what makes it warranted.
 
@Ponies from the underground  
Well if I’m being honest here I personally don’t think your art is good for a variety of reasons though I believe you have yet to improve and get better, but I do think you’re a good editor. Your editing is nice and you’re quite creative with your editing, I also appreciate the fact that you’re a Spike fan and giving him love since the show and community don’t give him that much. I also think it’s good you’re not limiting yourself to one thing so that’s great.
 
Even if you aren’t able to do flips, you can still improve on that as much as your art, again it’s all about learning and understanding the subject you are trying to learn. But in the future I think you should be more open criticism that way you can understand the Do’s and Don’t’s you can improve in the future.

@Ponies from the underground  
Good for you man, I wan’t going for you personally though, I didn’t even check your gallery.  
Also flips are easy af.

@Goblinette  
Ya know what even if my art doesn’t improve I do still have plenty of other talents like parkour, acrobatics, singing, acting, humor, etc. and yes you heard me correctly I do parkour and acrobatics however I still don’t know how to do flips other than cartwheels and round offs.

@LightningLazer  
I agree with most of your points, People can improve over time in skills they don’t have natural talent for.  
However I also believe that there’s some skills that you just cannot master no matter how hard you try, whether it’s your mental or physical incapacity.
 
So if i see someone that’s been drawing for 5 years and hadn’t improve, Or someone who wants to be a scientist but can’t pass grade 10, I’ll tell them they should quit and move to something else, Not because i’m evil, But because i’m a realist.

@Goblinette  

 
Well obviously, you don’t just eventually become good just by simply “practicing” especially if you don’t know what you’re doing. You know people go to art classes to learn these steps how to draw better or invest in tools such as books in order how to draw certain things better such as anatomy, which allows them to understand and create their own art style. It’s about learning and understanding that said subject so you can improve on that certain subject. Not just art, but other skills such as singing, acting, dancing and vice versa. Perhaps you believe this because you’ve witnessed this and took it as fact but never experienced it yourself, but that’s just you.
 
And you CAN if you’re willing to push yourself into something you strive for, but you have to do more than that obviously once again that kind of attitude is the person themselves and giving up is that easy. Once more, if that’s you’re opinion, you made the comment but don’t go around telling people not to improve just because they don’t have the talent as if they’re a natural at it (there are people who can learn and acquire more than one skill), it doesn’t help and it’s patronizing.
 
 
@Ponies from the underground  
While I don’t agree with everything they said, I agree about the message being bad. You’re literally telling artists or those who are working their way to be artist to disregard criticism and that they don’t need improvement. The message you’re giving is not only misguided but terrible. You need criticism to improve the art you create especially if you’re going to display it for everyone, there’s a reason opinions are diverse. Now you don’t to listen what every critic says but at least take it into consideration especially if that advice is helpful and focus on the points critics give you so you can take into consideration so you can improve, now unless someone says you’re “never going to get better” or “you should just give up, you have no talent” then that’s not criticism, and trust me ignoring criticism and refusing to improve is never a good thing, and you do not want that for yourself.

@Ponies from the underground  
Well i guess my problem is you call everything ‘art’ and ‘artist’.
 
An Artist SHOULD improve, Because it’s his profession.  
If you draw or make figurines with playdoh, Then have a blast, Do whatever it is your heart desire, Just don’t call your shit art, Or yourself an artist, It sounds stupid.

@Goblinette  
No it’s not bullshit because every artist should know that there is nothing that says an artist needs to improve their art all they need to do is have fun and besides it’s not the worst of our problems there are things are far more important than making art like spending time with family and friends.

@Ponies from the underground  
I accept that the image exists, But i don’t accept the message, It’s bullshit and people needs to know it.

@Goblinette
 
@LightningLazer  
The whole point of this image is to inform all artists across the internet that they don’t have to listen to what the critics say regardless if it improves or not whether if you’re an artist on sites like deviantart, furaffinity, rule34, new grounds, etc. so please stop arguing and just accept the message this image is about okay.

@LightningLazer  
I’m saying, Some people can draw for year and improve so little to the point that it’s a waste of time trying to make a career out of it.
 
And yes i’m a firm believer that you CAN’T do anything you set your mind to, And least not to the point of greatness.  
Just because you love something and you’re dedicated doesn’t mean you eventually be good at it.  
So i guess that’s where we have a disagreement.

@Goblinette  

 
I’m curious, when you said you’ve seen artists that have drawn for FIVE years, are you saying that those artists that had their art to this day and is still bad? Just curious.
 

 
And revisiting last comment, I’ve stated that’s why improvement is important, obviously progress is not going to come quick. That’s why it’s important what you’re doing right and what what you’re doing wrong, so you can improve later. If you’re bad at something or have done something then learn from it. If you believe “either you have the talent or you don’t” then that’s your opinion. Some people make it their hobbies, some make it their careers to the point that they work to improve the art they create for shows and the entire animation industry.
 
If there are those who don’t strive to improve and disregard criticism regarding their work, then yes make it a hobby you’ll never get better but hey. But really, those who actually believe that is the person themselves not due to lacking of a certain skill.

@LightningLazer  
Revisiting my first comment, Iv’e seen artist that been drawing for FIVE years with barely any improvement, At this point i think it’s okay to tell them to do it just as a hobby.  
And guess what, It’s also bad to tell people “Never give up” when they’re clearly bad at something, If you raise their hopes and dreams too much it’d be this much more devastating when they realize they’re not good, And also it’s a waste of time and energy. Everyone is good at something they just have to find out at what.

@Goblinette  
That’s why improvement is important, you can’t expect to get automatically good the moment you pursue a certain goal, it doesn’t work that. If there are people with that kind of attitude that believe that a certain goal they want to pursue isn’t their calling and just decided they should just give up entirely then it pretty much shows that they don’t want to or try to improve.
 

 
You can build a skill, you know and once again that’s a bad message, just telling them to give it up as a profession doesn’t help. Just because that one person is bad at something doesn’t mean they can’t get better, but you may never know those bad artists could and might end up working to improve their art, and end up being better.

@LightningLazer  
I wasn’t talking about criticism at all, I’m just saying some people don’t have the hands for art,  
Not saying they should quit, But they should accept the fact that they’re not that good, And they sure as hell shouldn’t pursue it as a profession.  
Iv’e seen many bad artist start a patreon, Or opening commissions.

@Goblinette  
Well consider this, those who had drawn for 5 years had a rough start with their work until their art develops and looks better than it previous was, that’s what leads to improvement.
 
Being creative is one thing but if that said art doesn’t end up coming out good and not well received by others, then you can[‘t expect people not to criticize it. Opinions are diverse after all, now unless someone says something like “you’re never going to get better” or “your art sucks just give up lol” then that’s not criticism that’s just flat out hate. Really in terms of critique, it’s important to look at the points of what works and what doesn’t work, granted you don’t have to listen to everything said critic says but at least take it into consideration and use it to your advantage so you can improve your work.
 
And telling people to disregard criticism is a bad message, and refusing to improve and take criticism is never a good thing, and it actually prevents you from improving at all. If you do then you’re never going to improve if you think like that and trust me, you do not want that.

I dunno ‘bout that.  
I saw people drawing for like 5 years without improvement at all.  
Sometimes you just have to accept that what you love at the moment is not your true calling.
 
But i guess it’s fine as long as it’s just a hobbie

This is giving me serious Mirco Fluttershy comic flashbacks along with Fame and Misfortune…

Okay, but if you’re gonna put it up publicly online where anyone and everyone can see, you expect criticism.

yeah, no.

What the last person said is true. What the above meme says is true. Art is subjective.

If you love what you do, strive to do it well.