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You’re the creator?
…That explains so much!
really?
Well, actually, one more point: scientific assertions made without evidence can, and should, be set aside without evidence. You have yet to deliver any document supporting your thesis aside from the single-parents issue despite plethora of sources you could quote or link to support it (and you still haven’t pointed out why the study quoted by Texas was irrelevant). At this point, texas has done more due diligence about trying to be factual than you. And Texas rarely goes beyond insulting people by making presumptions of their motivations, so you are failing to jump a pretty low bar.
You are not reading and you are insisting in forgetting the context.
First, regsrding SEC: They did account for SEC, what they then clarify is that the SEC doesn’t account for personal issues or failures of the parents. If the numbers hold across all SEC, then the effect is not linked to SEC status. The fact they cannot account for each psychological profile of the parents doesn’t make that assertion go away. You are trying to link two completely different issues in order to use the ambiguity of one to make ambiguous the other while no such assertion exist.
Second: context is, as always, everything. They’re describing the whole picture of different economical situations and are not establishing causation between the numbers found and the effects described because, and I quote, “Thus the parents’ socioeconomic status cannot explain why children from one-parent families are doing worse.” You are trying to present a fact they have already pointed to as not having enough statistical backing to direct causation, being merely used to illustrate the whole vareity of single parenthood, as significant when they have already said it’s not.
Third: no, it does not, specially when it goes to explain why the argument welfare is causing more single-parent homes is flawed (despite their reasoning for it to be flawed having a few issues, but not here nor there). The rise of single-parenthood as a percentage of the social group has hit mostly well-off groups, as mentioned by them. The fact there are more poor people doesn’t entail that we can then claim the quoted event is the driving force. It’s a widespread, inter-SEC trend which makes thst have no more reason to be causative than other non-causative factors.
Fourth: That’s irrelevant. The fact every other wild oyster produces a pearl is not important to the assertion that most oysters will not make a pearl. That assertion can be analyses and verified to no end, and quote as is. Does that mean you can predict the likelihood that a given oyster will have a pearl? No. That’s not how statistics works and it’s why we dismiss anecdotal evidence. But what we can say, within a margin of error, is how many oysters will have pearls in them from a batch of a hundred. And, in this case, statistics tell us it’s worse for children to be in single-parents home, the SEC status of the parents involved has a not statistically significant effect on the incidence of these problems, and widows for reason that cannot be ascertained due to lack of information (the previously mentioned psychological profile comes to mind) seem to have a lower but still noticiable effect on the long-term outcome of children. Other raw data might lead to other results, but if you are to grab the report (and read the data they are based upon by getting the book mentioned at the end), that’s the conclusion with the ever present disclaimer, “of this incomplete dataset.” Also, your quote implies nothing about success and all about prevalence.
And if you are to attack the sourced as biased, do look up what the Prospect is and what other articles they posted in the same time period. Or just the ones currently on their front page. For now, night.
Moreover, why os this about women? Most people blame deadbeat dads who run off or don’t take responsibility.
You’re raising the bar.
At first you were insistent that it was money. Now it’s just shitty behavior in general?
Here’s a theory: the people are single mothers tend to be impulsive, and impulsive people tend to be overrepresented in those behaviors.
Moreover, you are actually conceding the point: if so much extra effort and attention (and money) needs to go to Single Mothers to make it viable, then that is a mark of inferiority.
Which is the only way we could (maybe) alter those behaviors
even when controlled by SEC factors
Yyyeah, about that; sure, the article says:
Still getting the cart/horse arrangement in the proper order, the article points out yet another socioeconomic causative factor:
Later in the article:
The post referred contains no quotes and claims they didn’t account (this actually verbatim rather than anything you posted there) “like like escaping abusive relationships or being widowed”, both of which were accounted for in the analysis. They did. Widows do not exhibit the negative effects in equal measure, while the others offered no significant contribution to the issue.
factually incorrect about the content of the report
Dude, those are literally direct quotes. Do you know what “verbatim” means?
Ehmm… Actually, the study pretty much agrees with them on regards to everything but single fathers being better than single mothers. The position they posited wasn’t “two parents homes magically fix everything wrong” but “single-mothers show a statistically significant harm to children even when controlled by SEC factors, with single-fathers fairing better than single mothers.”
The study and the lines quoted disprove the latter, but they reinforced the former. If you come from a single parent house, you are statiscally worse off than your two-parents peers.
Ehmmm… You did read the paper? At all? Because I can’t honestly believe you read it if you didn’t proceed to crucify whatevs with its content. And then proceed to say something factually incorrect about the content of the report. And then went full retard. Why do you make it so clear you aren’t even attempting to read other’s evidence, texas? Especially when said evidence works on your favour?
You mean the study that says things like:
The study I linked straight up controls for SEC
His numbers were worthless, because they were completely devoid of socioeconomic context. You’re going to get a slightly different set of numbers from a group of single White upper class mothers in Kennebunkport than you will from po’ Black baby mamas in Chicago, and external influences like centuries of institutional racism and classism and a never-ending barrage of victim-blaming anti-populist propaganda from cesspools like Fox “News” absolutely affect those numbers. I’ve had three aunts and a mother in law who either dumped or were dumped by their worthless turd husbands, and went on to be far more successful raising their kids by themselves than they ever had been when they were stuck dragging around 200lb sacks of crap, because they were middle class enough and/or hardass determined enough and/or had large enough support networks of family and friends to make it work. Your bullshit attempts at slandering all single mothers with the same brush don’t account for kindasorta important reasons like like escaping abusive relationships or being widowed, but you’re both still trying to blame every negative effect of single parenting in general on the mothers just for being women.
Because google is relatively easy
This is just one, and his numbers were good enough.
All the pro-SM articles from partisan sites like HuffPo and Slate focus on how mean the stigma is
http://prospect.org/article/consequences-single-motherhood
Turns out I just really hate ignorant sexist bullshit– who knew?
Meanwhile, you keep making claims without even bothering to look up any deliberately-devoid-of-context numbers like the other guy; in addition to providing absolutely nothing to support it, you can no more separate your absurdly over-broad “single fatherhood __” from socioeconomic conditions than you could with “single motherhood __”.
In no way did I say anything anout holocaust denial.
I specifically said WW2.
Single fatherhood is more stable, studies correct for socioeconomic status so I don’t know why you keep going on.
You always sound mad as fuck.
Not a good sign
@Doomguy
admitting in public to being Holocaust deniers
Boy, you two sure are some kind of superheros there– good job on removing any and all doubt about how seriously anything you have to say should be taken.
using
liesdamn liesstatisticsAre you even pretending to follow along here? ‘Cuz you’re suckin’ real bad at it if you are.
Single fatherhood is more stable
Oh, hey, I hate to interrupt yet another of your woman-hating tirades, but you forgot to show literally any of your math there, son. Maybe try talking out of your mouth, instead of the other end?
…Also, turn on spellcheck FFS– you look ridiculous for reasons completely unrelated to your ignorant hate-based ideologies.
Tex’s paper is saying “they’re fine so long as we gove them a lot more money taken from other people through taxation”
That is a mark of inferiority
Comparisons to single fatherhood have been made.
Single fatherhood is more stable.
Glad you brought that up. It helps my case
Also, you need to go and point out that the paper texas referred to is bullshit and why.
All of these can be done, or at least inferred from other data sets. If you aren’t going to listen to my advice about not bothering with texas, at the very least don’t be at fault of the same intellectual dishonesties.
I’m certain a lot of our history about that war is propaganda.
I’m not a historian and am already a crank on many issues so I said “okay” and never revisited the topic.
So I’m not a revisionist, but I’m not immediately hostile to WW2 revisionists.
I already know about the holodomor so the holocaust doesn’t fill me with guilt like it does for a lot of people, especially since I’m not ethnically German (unless German Swiss counts).