Finger-shaking at the fanbase’s foamy fringe aside (yeah, Flashlight’s underdeveloped. This might not need pointing out 488 times over), I’m most horrified by this poneverse’s incorporation of waifu as commonplace slang. Oh, and Twiley’s plight seems plausibly heart-wrenching for somepone without the heart to get draconian upon the wretched docks of paparazzi & courtiers.
@ShimmeringStallion
wait, why is thinking about trying to salvage flash as a character in 3, stupid? i can at least name 2 characters that took a while for character development to take place before they became interesting/used well (though one of them struggled a decade of misuse to get his character right only to get misused AGAIN)
@Background Pony #C058
Well, firstly, it padded out the clock on what was already a short film as it stood. Looking at it solely from the standpoint of “We need a sub-plot likely to occur in high school to pan out the movie”, this makes plenty of sense. People tend to have the counter-argument of “because it’s totally pointless”, justified as “It added nothing to the story”, but considering all Hasbro needed was enough time to make this feature-length and they weren’t looking to get an Academy Award, the argument is moot. As you said, it’s a show with a target demographic that deviates from that demographic when the writers want to, but can always fall back on the excuse of what the target demographic is, as a reason why the story can suddenly plummet in quality and ‘purpose’.
Twilight falling in love with Flash can also pertain to something else: He’s literally the only person(?) who didn’t treat her like a nobody when she came from Equestria and acting as strange as she did. She grew attached as a result of that, and everything else was just justification of her ‘love’ for him. This also explains why she generally stopped caring when she went back, and just acted like she lost a friend as opposed to a romantic interest.
Like I said, they meant for Flash to be used a lot more in the second movie, but because of the excessively poor reception, chose for Trixie to replace him as a minor antagonist, despite her being simply a cameo in the first movie. Hasbro was basically to blame for the bad implementation, but the fans are to blame for them never expanding upon it later when they had the chance with the second film.
And if anyone thinks they’ll try salvaging his character in the third, they’re stupid.
Point is that whole romance side story was completely pointless, didn’t add anything to the movie and was only there as token high school thing. That made Flash Sentry to seem like a very shallow character who’s only reason being there was to have a little romance out of nowhere with Twilight in order to appeal to young girls (granted that young girls has been show’s target audience from the start, but it got popular because it mostly avoided the tropes of generic “girl cartoon”), and this caused some fans to hate the movie and Flash Sentry’s character.
I agree that there will always be some fans that hate it when their favorite character has any kind of relationship, but there has been multiple examples where most of the fans are totally okay with their favorite character having romantic relationship even very late into the series. Thing is that those relationships have been handled much better than just introducing a new character and having the main character fall in love with them instantly.
If they had no time to properly establish Flash Sentry’s character and his relationship with Twilight in a single movie then they should have just skipped it entirely, or just lay down ground work and then continue building the relationship in either the main series or in the second movie. I believe that if they had handled both introducing Flash Sentry’s character and his relationship with Twilight a bit better, then there would A LOT less people that hate Flash Sentry.
@Psyga315
except in GMK they shoot themselves in the foot by blasting 98 (that americans claim they got attacked by godzilla which japanese ‘experts’ deny) then have japanese characters call baragon ‘red godzilla’
@Background Pony #C058
The problem with that, is that the movie only goes on for so long, and they couldn’t use a canon-character in the show for a romance in the side-story, as fans would become confused on whether or not it’s a canon romance in the series (Also, there’d be no ‘right’ answer to ‘is it, or not?’ without backlash).
They needed a throwaway character for a romance-subplot to pan out a movie, they used exactly what it said on the tin for what they needed. Sadly, some (but not many) of the fans WERE mad due to them considering her “only theirs” and disliking a character ‘getting her’, this is a fact.
The reception of Flash was so poor, they threw away his original use in the second movie in order to use a fan-favorite character instead.
@OptimusPrimevil
Well, that was because they were downright furious with ‘98. They weren’t bowing to the pressures, but rather addressing their own hatred to the film.
@OptimusPrimevil
1.Maybe his parentage is being kept a secret?
2&3.-Because the earthshattering truth of who spawned him could destroy the peace she worked so hard for, plunging the world into a terrible war? And there’s no way Rarity wouldn’t squeal?
I don’t think Flash Sentry hate is so much about waifu stealing as it is just hating how he was introduced. Way they handled him in the first movie basically seemed like generic high school jock going after the catch of the week, and I think that may have caused many people to hate him. Not to mention that for some people introducing sudden and somewhat pointless high school romance went not only against Twilight’s character, but also against what people had fallen in love with whole series at that point, that being the way show had avoided most generic tropes about being show for girls.
If Flash Sentry had been slowly introduced during whole season and shown falling in love with Twilight and vice versa, instead of sudden romance out of nowhere, I think people would be much more accepting towards him.
@Background Pony #7088
it’s probably head canon but maybe twilight’s human body’s hormones act differently from her pony form. i got the idea from the comic ‘shadowman’ where one of the characters prefers her old (senior citizen level) form rather than her younger self (her hormones are affecting her judgement/focus)
You know, I wouldn’t say I hate Flash, I just don’t like him. He’s kinda like Lily or Toe-Tapper to me, we know jack-diddly about his personality, so there’s nothing to really like or anything that stands out.
@TheDeinonychus
for me it’s like toho not even TRYING to salvage the ‘98 godzilla. going for the easy ‘take that’ route than at least giving a shot to fix it. the fact that flash (not even clear WHICH flash we’re talking about) gave up because of hater pressure is low/dumb.
This just made me facepalm. Taking waifu stealing jokes seriously is as cringey as creepy fedora tippers taking friendzone jokes seriously.
As it has been stated here before. No one dislikes the concept of Twi being shipped with anyone. People dislike her being shipped with a cardboard cutout boyfriend. People dislike reducing her character to a schoolgirl who falls for a cool looking guy for no reason at all. They have done absolutely nothing in the movies together to build any chemistry and that makes the whole Twi Flash romance look stupid and forced.
re read the pages and i’m confused about some parts
1.is it common knowledge that twilight had a child?
2.twilight’s reasoning for the keeping the dad’s identity doesn’t make any sense if she can’t tell rarity about it as seen in >>773505 (unless the dad has some sort of connection with rarity, enough for twilight to be afraid to tell her)
3.what kind of friendship role-model town is ponyville if twilight can’t tell who she’s with? >>765885