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Winner of the 2014 OMG What An Awkward Translation Derby

@Techy Pony  
But the brothers together in such relationships if they do all the time here and just complain because they never occurred that but i understand your point,

>likes how the artist was uploading the translated version of that super sexy comic he made and i was waiting for it to be finished only to have him stop half way through and delete everything he had previously uploaded and upon questioning him about this he said he took them down because they weren’t getting enough attention to which i replied well how the fuck are they supposed to get recognition if you removed them to which he responded ‘good point XD’ and then never fucking reuplaoded them again………
 
anybody else happen to have the translation of the comic in question?……
 
 
@Poptard  
what fic is that you’re talking about?….

@Techy Pony  
I guess that’s where I disagree, this artist especially, all I see is good vibes from the relationship, which is of course his right. The threat of being caught isn’t a downside, it’s the opposite: a constant turn on that drives the images.
 
Apparently even having a kid born out of incest while he’s still married to Cadance seems like the greatest thing ever.
 
Just really strange to me.

@Background Pony #12C3  
Most Twi x Shining ships are exactly as you said, with them hiding it and feeling bad about it. Doesn’t mean though that when they’re alone, or think they’re alone, they can’t act all romantic and such.
 
With this picture, if it relates to the other ones by this artist, they’ve already gone through the process of being mortified and found out, now they’re just making the best of the situation.

@Background Pony #12C3  
I see, makes sense, thank you for explaining.

@CrashGordon94  
The point I originally was trying to make was just an observation of approaching this from a realist viewpoint.
 
Obviously when you start injecting elements that aren’t in the show, such as illegal acts and sex, you’re breaking canon. That’s why it behooves authors and artists to try to really sell their fantasy when they do so, making it as believable as possible. I’m an author personally, and I know the most popular works of fanfiction almost always hold true to following show canon when possible, and making their own fiction believable within the context of the show.
 
So yes, in a way I feel portraying ships like this grossly outside the context of reality cheapens it somehow, and I find no interest in it. Now, repaint this as the two of them hiding their love in secret, constantly worried about being found out, or trying to deal with a twinge of shame gnawing at them from their forbidden act, and I’m very interested. Honestly I think the text hurts this artist’s images more than it helps. Take it away, and they stand better on their own.
 
It’s simply my opinion as an observer.

@Thundercloud  
I guess when you take random siblings and pair them it’s fine, but when you pair siblings that are actually really close, it’s almost believable and so causes outrage.

I don’t know if somebody cares but derpiboour has so many incest pics and don’t say nothing about that, way a shiningTwi its so bad

What’s more disturbing, the comic or the comments? You decide!

@CrashGordon94  
I just don’t have a problem with it because the things wrong with incest (which aren’t due to incest, but merely go with the territory) are already illegal on their own ground.
 
If some due wants to go bang his sister, fine go ahead, so long as she wants it to and is older enough and in a proper state of mind. If they’re both consenting and old enough to be truly capable of consent, then I say (wear a condom) and go ahead. (unless you’re in a place where it’s illegal, then keep that in mind)
 
I don’t think bad cases of incest should be a reason to make incest illegal. We don’t making having ordinary relationships illegal because of domestic abuse and rape are both closely tied to it, do we?
 
Besides, being legal wouldn’t suddenly make people want to screw their siblings, in fact it’s natural to not be attracted to your siblings so I bet it’d still be a very rare thing, legal or not. (I bet if I look for statistics in places where it is legal, it will not be any higher, but it’d be difficult to be sure since the “reported” right might be higher, given its legal status)
 
I just don’t see anything inherently wrong with incest, that being the key word. The act of incest itself I consider in no way harming anyone or unethical. That’s not to say there can’t be any problems associated with it, but aren’t there potential problems with most things, simply because humans are fallible? A father has sex with his 10 year old child, I say incest isn’t the problem there, I say child abuse/rape is the problem there. You can’t have domestic abuse without marriage (not entirely accurate, but you get my point), so lets get rid of marriage, then we can technically never have domestic abuse, problem solved right? (sarcasm)

@Techy Pony  
I gotta disagree, it might be a slightly hyperbolic reason, but the idea about something being portrayed as good making it more accepted is valid and kind of important to keep in mind.  
Now, I’m not convinced this comic is going to make anyone go “Oh, incest really IS okay! I’ll go bang my sister now!” (Thank goodness for that), but it’s still an important thing to keep in mind, because if something like this happens A LOT it can start to color peoples’ views of real-life issues.  
This is why I’m always yammering on against certain things on here (and sometimes KYM, though it doesn’t come up as often).

@CrashGordon94  
Perhaps, but that in particular is no reason to be against incest, because let’s face it, most people are, it’s illegal in most places and these statistics are still the case. Clearly being against bad people doing bad things doesn’t actually stop bad people from doing bad things.
 
If someone is planning to abuse their younger siblings sexually, if there’s worry of consequence in their mind it’s probably due to the sexual assault they’re about to commit, not the incest, so I doubt it’d even be a deterrent.
 
So I hope that’s not BG ponys reason, as it wouldn’t be a good one.

@Techy Pony  
Right, I was just explaining why they might be belaboring that particular point.

@CrashGordon94  
I don’t blame you for not wanting to go through the whole thing and read comments xD
 
I think it works in a different order. It’s not so much that incest is dangerous (at least in the sense we’re talking about), but that dangerous people end up causing the dis-favorable statistics.
 
Well there’s a whole host of reasons one might be against incest, I really don’t want another debate, and I really don’t feel like arguing over an opinion. (where as the conversation I had with BG pony was over a matter of siting one sided statistics as the way it always happens, and will happen, even in apparently a fictional universe)

@Techy Pony  
Well, that was just my guess.
 
And it could still be “I’m angry, they’re showing this dangerous thing as something okay and harmless!” and since it’s probably gonna come up, yes I kind of agree and am definitely against the incest myself.

@CrashGordon94  
Oh yeah (got confused with it being a roundabout way of saying so)
 
They never once mentioned (as far as I remember) that it was considered supporting such actions, only that they said “In real life, what would happen is that it would be a predator/victim relationship that started when they were young”, as if that is the only outcome from or means by which an incestuous relationship happens…in a show about fictional ponies who don’t apply to human statistics.

@Techy Pony  
I explicitly said I WASN’T talking about the show!
 
To really point it out, I’m guessing they’re basically saying that they might be thinking that having stuff like this would encourage/support it, like I said…

@CrashGordon94  
Oh, well I sure wouldn’t expect incest in the show, no matter how much they said it was under the happiest of conditions, people wouldn’t be ready for that in a kids cartoon regardless.
 
However, if there were incest and people automatically assume it’s support of predator/victim relationships, we’re in rough times.

@Techy Pony  
Oh no, I meant the incest victim/predator thing, that’s all I was referring to, nothing about the flaws thing.

@CrashGordon94  
Well showing them not having terrible flaws doesn’t seem to me to have negative implications toward kids watching it IRL, though again it doesn’t matter, because what we’re talking about here isn’t in any way about what should or shouldn’t be on the show.
 
 
@PonyPon  
I never said they don’t or can’t, but when this show is a little fantasy land make for little girls, I don’t think there’s any intention for brothers to be abusing their younger sisters…
 
Apparently species should be assumed to be vile unless proven otherwise.

@Techy Pony  
That’s no reason to assume they don’t or can’t have any human flaws.

@Techy Pony  
I never said we were, honestly I don’t see how that’s relevant.

@PonyPon  
A lot of the current things plaguing current societies I’ve not seen in the show.
 
 
@CrashGordon94  
We’re not talking about what would be good to have in the show. If we were, we wouldn’t be having a conversation about Twilight have a child born out of incest with her colt friend who’s already married…now would we?