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Oh for facepalm.jpg’s sake, ad hominem is attacking the messenger instead of the message; when some one is mocking the message for being both prolix and incorrect on technical grounds, that does not apply.
I know what your point is, and I am saying that your point is incorrect– the visual similarities are immediately apparent. Your “would not have been intentional” is presuming an awful lot about the motivations of people you don’t know and have never met, and it frankly does not follow, given that members of the production crew also worked with Faust on Foster’s, and the sheer number of callbacks– both visual and narrative– to earlier works that appear in Season 4.
Nice ad hominem, dude. My point is that there isn’t a visual similarity, and even if there were, it would not have been intentional.
That was an awful lot of keyboard flogging for an opinion that could have been condensed to “doesn’t understand how visual similarities work”.
This is getting to be too much.
Parsimonious - in the sense of the principle of parsimony. By that, I mean it’s not reasonable to explain something using more assumptions than are necessary.
I understand your point that the staff can make homages to anything they wish. But given that Lauren was the major link (and the only one of which I am aware, but I could be and probably am mistaken about that) between My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends, to claim that Scorpan’s character design in MLPFIM is based on that of a character from Foster’s Home is not reasonable. Especially when the similarities in the two designs are as tenuous as these are.
For one thing, the examples of homages you gave - Sondheim, Thompson - are very obvious homages and references that are meant to be noticed. Meanwhile, here we are having a debate on an image with a score of 43. It seems that not that many people have noticed this comparison as would have noticed Discord’s Fear and Loathing costume, or that Rarity performed a take on a major Broadway production. The homage to Eduardo would have been much more conspicuous had it actually been intended. For another thing, Eduardo’s character design isn’t a conceptually related idea that would communicate the idea of Scorpan with any additional value to the viewer. If it actually were a reference, it would be pretty pointless, because whatever could be communicated by the motif of Eduardo is not relevant to the situation at hand in the storybook flashback. And as cartoon characters go, that sort of top-heavy body type is not uncommon.
The explanation that requires fewer assumptions is that the design of Scorpan (G4) is based on the design of Scorpan (G1) - and drawn in the storybook style which is found at moments in the G4 series.
Look at the difference between Celestia in the opening sequence of S01E01 and how she appears animated in the show proper. She’s not really a needle-legged porcelain figure with pink hair. It’s clear to me that no matter how he looks in the storybook style, Scorpan rendered in the regular style of G4 - i.e. built out of vector symbols with thick smooth outlines, blunt limb-endings, a weight to his movement and body, and a strong, iconic color scheme - would look even less like Eduardo.
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Well, I like to think so, but at least I make concessions. Why not express to impress? If I were only arguing with rhetoric, sure, that would be bad. But I believe that my points are defensible on their own merits, and so I might as well be convincing and specific with how I say them.
parsimonious
Uh… did your autocorrect malfunction?
Again, Faust has nothing to do with whatever homages the current staff choose to include; Stephen Sondheim and Hunter S. Thompson have never had anything whatsoever to do with the show, but that didn’t stop Art Of The Dress from being an homage to Putting It Together, or Discord from referencing the Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas movie.
…You’re just trying to sound smart, aren’t you?
My point on Lauren was that she worked on Foster’s, and since she didn’t work on Twilight’s Kingdom the idea that Scorpan’s storybook design was inspired by Eduardo is not, on the whole, parsimonious. Whatever “obvious” visual similarities you are seeing are confabulated. Scorpan (G4) was inspired by Scorpan (G1), even if he’s standing with the same stance as Eduardo.
Man, if you can’t see it I don’t know what to tell you; the visual similarities between Eduardo and the Twilight’s Kingdom flashback Scorpan are rather quite obvious.
I’m not sure what Lauren Herself has to do with anything; I’m pretty sure neither David Tennant nor Billie Piper were involved with Time Turner trotting through the background in 3D glasses and Roseluck at his side in the Breezies episode, either.
Those are ears, not horns, and they’re not even the same shape.
Scorpan predates Eduardo by about 20 years. (To say the inspiration went the other way would be even more ludicrous.) I’d say Scorpan is something like the Ancient Egyptian demon Ammit combined with a gargoyle, with the physique of an action figure. Eduardo’s design more clearly draws on the features of a Spanish bull, and other beasts typically known as fighters - e.g. his saber teeth, large nose ostensibly for snorting steam (and I’ll bet you he did it at least once on Foster’s), devil tail, cloven hooves. His Spanish characterization allows for his belt buckle to be a skull. These design choices are played in contrast with his loving, kind personality. I mean, he’s a dang ol’ Where The Wild Things Are creature.
With regards to Scorpan in Twilight’s Kingdom, a: he doesn’t even have any lines, and b: he’s heavily stylized into a storybook appearance. Faust was nowhere near involved in the episode’s production besides. Concretely, the pose is similar but that’s about it.
The horns; the hairiness; the big neckless face in the middle of a curved and heavily-weighted upper body; the long narrow tail with a stabbity thing on the end; the belt with circular bosses; the great concern for others…
Yeah, the pose is similar, with the bow-leggedness, but it doesn’t really have much in common design-wise.
That’s Eduardo from Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends, which was the show Lauren Faust worked on right before FIM. Scorpan’s appearance in Twilight’s Kingdom is similar enough to Eduardo that it’s probably not a coincidence.
But it’s still a joke.
No.
Aka, it’d fit your own personal standard.
It would be a joke if it weren’t so half assed.