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@Tk3997  
If by ‘marginally’ you mean ‘to such an extent ponies consider it nonexistent’.
 
Also, perhaps they could learn it. They end winter by skating on the ice and bodily shoveling the snow away, after all.
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@PonyPon  
You yourself pointed out how that hardly counts. (My own fanon would also place Trixie as above average in general in terms of magic, but that’s admittedly pure speculation if a fairly common one .
 
@Starswirl  
No, but a Unicorn or Pegasus could surely run a farm if they wanted too (another indication of how awful the only really canon earth pony power is), perhaps marginally less productive, but they could do it.
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@ALIS  
No.
 
The evidence I have shown is that the show tells you that Earth Ponies’ natural talent is in farming. You keep spinning headcanon about how that’s only a product of nurture, not nature.
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@Tk3997  
Off the top of my head, Flim and Flam had apples for cutie marks, and Fluttershy takes care of animals. In both cases, these things would be normal for an earth pony, but are a bit unusual for unicorns and pegasi.
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@Starswirl
 
Doubtful, they don’t have horns. The question is if a unicorn was raised on a farm and knew the ins and outs of it would their farm be less successful because they are not an Earth Pony.
 
That has never been shown, the only evidence you have thus provided is that in three societies, a military, an elite and a farming society, the farming knows how to farm. You have not shown race to be the predominant factor in that.
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So on the sign of a car wash about two miles from where I sit as I type this, Is a quote:
 
“All experts were once beginners.”
 
Why is it that car washes of all places have quotes on the signs around here where I live?
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@PonyPon  
And Rarity managed some impressive weatherspells while she was invested in weather duties. Considering her friends all failed at performance means that her ability to manipulate it was hers, not a product of Rainbow’s Cutie Mark.
 
But, I’m not all broken up about admitting Pegasi do have their advantages. All three do.
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@Tk3997  
Oh and one more advantage of Pegasus that totally slipped my mind. The ability to move freely while carrying tools in their hooves. An earth pony is stuck either awkwardly using their mouth which by all rights would make them mute or stopping completely to rear up and use their hooves.
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@Tk3997  
Trixie conjured a (admittedly weak) lightning cloud in her first episode.
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@ALIS  
So, in other words, Earth Ponies can also learn to raise the sun and moon?
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@Millennial Dan  
Really now, so how many unicorn and Pegasus farmers have we seen? I’m sorry, but there really isn’t much way to avoid having a genetic predisposition toward a dirty menial job raise some rather dark questions. This is the kind of set up you’ll see in a speculative fiction distopia.
 
The fact the show seems content to show only earth pony’s farming only makes things even worse.
 
@Starswirl  
The wing spell was never shown to allow anything like the higher end or full range of Peagsus flight capabilities. Also I find it rather amusing you’re ignoring the fact that spell failed under extremely mild conditions (AKA F’ing sunlight) nearly killing the user…
 
The cloud walking spell doesn’t seem to grant the same inherent manipulation capabilities. It’s also pretty useless without a way to get onto clouds the huge majority of which are Pegasus driven.
 
Twilight is a freak of nature, Trixie only managed it when in possession of something that turned her into an equally powerful freak. No normal unicorn has demonstrated the capability on a wide scale.
 
Also I find it deeply amusing that all three counter arguments you made only apply to unicorns, so by extension Earth Pony’s are still shit, but Unicorns are OP. Which I wouldn’t totally dispute in all honesty unicorns to me anyway easily seem the most versatile and powerful race, with the higher tier ones making the others more or less redundant.
 
Still you’re rather ignoring the advantages inherent with flight. Pegasus are messengers, scouts, explorers, first responders of all sorts, construction workers on any taller project, freight haulers, etc, etc. Having what amounts to virtually anti-gravity strapped to your back is a whole hell of allot more versatile then “grows plants real good”.
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@Starswirl
 
“ In the context of their particular skill, the one they and they alone can fulfil. It didn’t say ’because they didn’t learn it’, it says so that they flat out can’t do it.”
 
Both can mean the same thing, I can’t play guitar, doesn’t mean I can not learn.
 
The Earth Tribe is a farming tribe, the pegasii are militant, the unicorns live in luxury.
 
So in this regard saying growing food is an Earth Pony only game is speculation.
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@ALIS  
No, my friend. That’s not how it works.
 
I quoted the lines where it says exactly that. In the context of their particular skill, the one they and they alone can fulfil. It didn’t say ‘because they didn’t learn it’, it says so that they flat out can’t do it.
 
Now you have to prove that’s only the case because they didn’t try hard enough.
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@Starswirl
 
showerd
 

 
full
 
full
 
Yeah I know you may mean “Showed” but hey, It’s meant in a friendly way to point out a typo.
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@ALIS
 
Edit “Pegasii / Unicorn”
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@Tk3997  
It’s not a predestination issue, as is pretty obvious by the wide variety of occupations that earth ponies have. It’s simply always been understood that earth ponies have a greater connection to their namesake than the other two types.
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@Tk3997  
If anything, Pegasi are inferior. And I’m saying this not in-character here, by the way. Other than the Sonic Rainboom, I don’t remember anything Pegasi can do that Unicorns can’t.
 
Fly? Wings spell.  
Cloudwalking? Spell.  
Weather manipulation? Trixie and Rarity showerd they can both do so.
 
Really, what’s left?
ALIS

@Starswirl
 
“Don’t sigh at me, bub. The burden of prove isn’t on me here, it’s on you.”
 
You have that the wrong way around. Earth Pony magic has not been mentioned yet. You are the one who needs to prove it.
 
“The show tells you Earth Ponies grow the food.”
 
That is not shown to be a special power.
 
“It tells you the others don’t.”
 
It tells you the pegasii tribe can’t. It doesn’t say if it is for lack of a power or lack skill.
 
“So, why do you insist that what the show tells you is wrong?”
 
I’m not saying the show is wrong. Just that you have not provided evidence of an inherent power that is unique to Earth Pony.
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@Millennial Dan
 
“From the sound of things, you’re more interested in contradicting people than in saying anything useful.”
 
You have given no evidence that it is canon, normally that is when someone would say, huh, I thought it was canon but it doesn’t appear in the show or supporting works.
 
But no, it is you who is being contradictory. Again I said I had no problem if it is your fanon, you are however insisting that it is in the show despite it not appearing and thus non canon.
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I’m kind of sitting here wondering why people really want Earth Pony’s to be genetically predestined farmers… that seems like a pretty shitty destiny really. Enjoy toiling in the fields mud-pony, after all it’s what you’re DNA says you’re supposed to do!
 
I mean flying or magic that has all sorts of applications so you can get a range of things, but “grows plants good” is a pretty damn narrow specialization.
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@ALIS  
Don’t sigh at me, bub. The burden of prove isn’t on me here, it’s on you.
 
The show tells you Earth Ponies grow the food. It tells you the others don’t. It also tells you Pegasi control the weather, which is true, and Unicorns bring forth day and night, which is also true.
 
Yes, even that. Celestia and Luna use their Unicorn magic to do so. That’s another quote, by the way.
 
So, why do you insist that what the show tells you is wrong?
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@Millennial Dan
 
“She didn’t say anything about “believing it”, she said it was so.”
 
She can say what she wants, it isn’t canon.
 
 
@Starswirl
 
“Food that could only be grown by the Earth ponies.”
 
Lack of knowledge of farming does not imply special power.
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@Starswirl
 
Sigh.
 
Again, just because Earth Ponies are shown to farm more, doesn’t mean they will be better at it than a non earth pony farmer raised on a farm.
 
Their is no evidence of a direct power that makes them better, a culture maybe but no power has yet appeared.
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@AdamThePony  
I assumed that the moment I saw this clip.
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@ALIS  
She didn’t say anything about “believing it”, she said it was so.
 
The rest of your statement is pure BS, but by all means, continue to waste time trying to convince me that it isn’t. From the sound of things, you’re more interested in contradicting people than in saying anything useful.