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And that was the end of movie night forever
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Actually, while Gipsy did grab Raiju’s carcass, they went with another strategy by using Slattern as their ticket into the Breach. In the novel, however, they attempt using Raiju’s carcass but Slattern catches them in mid-fall.
Oh and I just want to clear this up a bit since I find most people have highly overblown images of nuclear weapons thanks to Hollywood. This isn’t a Pacific Rim thing specifically either. People not really grasping what nukes can and can’t do is just kind of a pet peeve of mine.
First off let’s get some numbers.
Before the move a total of 46 Kaiju had breached the rift. Here’s another number 203. That’s the total number of above ground nuclear tests conducted by the United States alone. The total number when one counts underwater and underground is a bit over 1,000 (The USSR roughly matched that with about 980). Kind of puts things in perspective doesn’t? We’ve set off over two thousand nuclear weapons so far and the earth is quite livable.
Less then 50 deep ocean detentions wouldn’t even be a drop in the bucket. It would literally be less then 1% of the total nuclear detonations that have occurred since the invention of the atomic bomb.
No of course many of those blasts where centered in small, isolated testing ranges that were nuked over and over. However that’s more or less moot here since the intended target for this operation is a small isolated, fixed point that will be nuked over and over. At about 500 meters with a reasonably sized bomb you wouldn’t even get bubbles at the surface.
Nuclear detonations at the rift would be a non-event. No one would even really know they were occurring barring news reports and official press releases.
jaegers can walk to the rift but can’t enter due to the “kaiju DNA identification check”, this fact was discovery by the local mad scientifics close to the end of the movie.
Wow… I… WHAT?
Why would you even make an argument that’s so patently, provably false without even any room for alternate interpretation? The ENTIRE plan to win the war and the entire climax of the film HINGES on the fact the Jeager can just walk up to the rift! It’s just… I don’t…
Head Explodes
Seriously thought I liked the movie and could suspend disbelief (though I’d have liked more focus on robots and monsters and less some of the rather trite drama. However I’m quite aware that CGI is allot more expensive then filming actors). That said just don’t try and sell me that the Jeager make ANY kind of sense in any sane universe. They just don’t.
Its just a [movie], I really should relax.
You telling someone to gather facts when you regularly demand answers to things a 10 second google search would educate you on was too rich to resist.
what’ *checks* oh, what? you are a different person…THEN WHY THE HAY YOU REPLIED IF IT WASN’T YOU THE ONE I WAS SPEAKING TOO?
…Do you even read usernames?
well, in your previous post you made it sound the jaegers could get inside the rift easily without the whole “kaiju dna identification” thing.
“before debating about something, make sure you know all the facts of the subject”
Why don’t you? I rewatched Pacific Rim last night. The Jaegers do in fact walk right up to the rift underwater with no difficulty other than sealing their ports. Gipsy Danger walks to the rift, grabs the kaiju carcass, and falls into the breach.
>they can easily get to it
before debating about something, make sure you know all the facts of the subject.
>Of course this is all pedantic, a Jeager’s can just walk right up the rift. Which means they can easily get to it. Which means they can just ring it with nuclear naval mines.
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confirmed for not having see the movie, argument invalid.
yeah, because exploding nuclear bombs everyday is good for the environment.
Yeah not buying it for a second, first off go beat someone to death with a baseball bat. Tell me how little blood you end up with. Next, burn a hole through their chest with a plasma cutter and tell me how little it bleeds. Also what the fuck is Striker Eureka’s cop out for fucking shooting armor piercing high explosive missile at them? (Which also by the fact they even exist and work instantly make not just having C-5s loaded down with grand slam bombs totally stupid, or even more lazily just a battery of precision guided ballistic missiles)
Then we have the fact the whole “ZOMG TOXIC BLOOD” thing makes no sense anyway. The shit isn’t THAT deadly people can walk around by it, pick it up with simple rubber gloves, etc. Nerve gas it’s not. Also the background itself claims that once a Kaiju dies it trigger some uber fast self-destruction crap that rots it to bones in like days at most. Were the hell does all the toxic crap go when that happens? If you go to the trouble of making your monster have toxic blood would you then also design a self-destruct that somehow neutralizes that toxic blood when it goes off? Hell no, half the point of such a thing would seem to be to contaminate as large an area as possible.
So who cares if you cut it a few times as you kill it and and it bleeds, it’s going to fucking turn into a fucking pile of mush and spread that shit everywhere anyway no matter how you kill it. Also if you’re worried about this crap killing it at sea is the WORST idea as that’s going to make containing the contamination like almost literally a hundred times harder.
Of course this is all pedantic, a Jeager’s can just walk right up the rift. Which means they can easily get to it. Which means they can just ring it with nuclear naval mines.
Here is how it actually works in a world where everyone isn’t insane/retarded:
railway guns.
That explains “bludgeoning,” but I still don’t…
you know what? Naah. People have fun with mecha movies and anime, and nobody’s getting any jollies from me pissing on their popcorn, right? Y’all have a blast.
Oh, okay. This is perhaps a bit obsessive to know, and in the film it was cut down to a 10 second blurb in the intro that didn’t actually explain anything, but in the peripheral materials that was actually explained.
Kaiju blood is very toxic, not just to people but to the environment. While planes and their existing kinetic energy or explosive weapons could apply more force (technically, more stress) than a Jaeger fist, you may as well just nuke the city the kaiju is in, if you are going to take one out by penetrating or blowing apart its body. It’s just as lethal to the city’s remaining human inhabitants, and just as long-term uninhabitable either way. Weapons used against kaiju have to be high-momentum/comparatively low-energy bludgeoning weapons that cause internal injuries (mass a plane can’t carry); or plasma weapons that instantly cauterize wounds in the kaiju’s rock-like, silicon-based tissue. (As the situation became more desperate that was relaxed some; late Jaegers like Crimson Typhoon and the rebuilt Gipsy Danger did have some emergency cutting weapons.)
It’s all fictional MacGuffins to produce the desired “robots pummel dragons” outcome, but it’s not internally inconsistent.
So could Scissure… apparently.
Hm. Okay, one.
Main point still stands though. Planes will still deliver more force with less exposure of the pilots. We demolish tall buildings with explosives, not by sending guys up with pile drivers.
Otachi is Pacific Rim and could fly.
Pac Rim kaiju, brave anon.
Keep in mind also how the Category 5 took a nuke to the face and merely shrugged it off. Also note how each kaiju was created to counteract a specific jaeger. Even if the mechs were not built, they would have a countermeasure ready.