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There’s all-caps and bold letters and headcanon, I’ve been on this site long enough to know where these things head towards.
was not aware we were particularly excited.
And also keep in mind Trixie and Lightning Dust get this sort of treatment (and far worse) for having done less; a lot of the fandom has a more childish interpretation of characters and intentions than the target audience, with the added viciousness that early adulthood grants them.
100% agree with this, nothing gilda did deserves any kind of ‘punishment’ so much as an attempt to find out why, or a simple conversation
well I respectfully disagree. everyone interprets things differently and I, personally, interpret gilda’s ‘unrepentant cunt’ moments not as anything antagonistic but more as no one else in the vicinity sharing her form of humor(and then washing her hands of it when she didnt get the reaction she was looking for). I just dont interpret any actual malice behind her actions beyond the initial shock humor attempt. at most her actions deserve a conversation/intervention, NOT a public hazing. you cant pull the moral high ground card on me when your actions are intentionally malevolent. then for pictures like this, to hunt down and enforce your own sense of justice on others(and as disgusting as the display is, show glee in the desire and implementation) I find revolting(when taken to extremes like this picture) and incredibly obnoxious.
You’re exactly the sort of person I was referring to and your summation of them both just made my point all the more valid.
>You’re wasting your time; Gilda fans think she’s blameless, and have an excuse for everything.
@EbenLynx
>Maybe you’re right. I think anybody who truly believes that Gilda did no wrong should give this article a read:
YOU’VE GOT THAT WRONG!
Some of her fans don’t think she didn’t deserve that calling out, we believe she still did. It’s just that her side of the story is played a bit more sympathetically than the other antagonists in the “old friends shouldn’t treat new friends like dirt” lesson. Every other antagonist pretty much does everything to make sure their “rival” is out of the picture so their main character friend will hang out with them and them alone when the MC tries to make both friends hang out with each other along with them. Like intentionally mixing up the meeting locations and time, or pushing the “rival” out of way in an activity meant for all three of them for example. Sure Gilda did a variation of the second example when Pinkie kept butting in, but that’s also the difference. Dash allows Pinkie Pie to join in on her hang out time with Gilda, but she wasn’t doing something that made her want all three of them to hang out at the same time. Rainbow Dash at those particular moments wanted to hang out with Gilda more than Pinkie, even though it made her happier if Pinkie also joined in, it doesn’t change what the initial activity was about, which was hanging out with Gilda, Pinkie is just a plus.
It’ll be like playing a two-player game (of any kind) with your friend when all of a sudden this random stranger you never seen before or barely knew just hops in and joins the game without so much as a warning, just when you’re about to start enjoying yourself with your friend. Wouldn’t you feel a little uncomfortable with this new guy joining in on your game out of the blue like that, especially if you barely knew the guy and your friend knows all about him? It is what Gilda does next in this kind of situation that ends the sympathy for some of her fans. While most people will then at least make an effort to be friends with the new guy that their other friend supposedly knows, Gilda on the other hand sees this as a competition with the new guy or sees him as a threat that will take her friend away from her and therefore must go away, just like all the other antagonists of this kind of story.
TL;DR: Basically at least some of us understand why Gilda gets so mad with Pinkie Pie and her interruptions that she ends up being Wrong Genre Savvy at the party, but we still don’t like how possessive she is of Rainbow Dash and doesn’t know that Dash can like other people. Although half of her fans also have the belief that you can still be friends with a jerkish theif because they could turn out to be pretty cool and nice once you get to know them and the other half just simply believes villains are cool.
That’s pretty much how I view it, yes, which means if I had an account I’d be voting this drawing down. It’s the people who insist Gilda was the victim, and Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash the villains, that really annoy me. The fact that Gilda was shown to be a bully and a thief when she was on her own, away from Rainbow Dash and after Pinkie Pie had given them their time alone, isn’t viewed as a look at Gilda’s real nature but dismissed as an aberration due to her still being stressed from being exposed to Pinkie for, what, 2 minutes total? It’s almost like they identify more with her than with the main characters.
@DeeperMadness
Right, people dislike Gilda and Iron Will because they bring them out of their “comfort zones”, not because they were shown to be jerks, bullies, and (in Gilda’s case) petty thieves. Granted, that’s a lot less true in Iron Will’s case, which is why he’s usually not vilified as much.
you totally get it. gilda was not a saint, but she was the ultimate victim of the whole episode.
I dont think she’s blameless. I will not say she did not do bad things, but I also believe that doesnt justify bullying behavior and a holier-than-thou attitude the ponies show. Pinkie’s obsessive nature was expressed through out the episode, and should have been a lesson in itself. hell, it should have been an episode. for a prank party that’s pranks werent intended for my waifu of a griffin, why did not one single asshole pull her aside to get her out of the line of fire? why did they allow the continued torment push her over the edge and snap at them? there were tons of signs of the situation turning sour, so why did the pony whose job it is to make sure everyone is enjoying themselves at a party not do a damn thing, and instead instigate the situation to spiral further and further out of control? because she decided she was in the moral right and had to do something? because she decided that she was the one who needed to be offended for fluttershy? Gilda was not in the right, but nobody else was either. I mean, fluttershy was a victim in that episode and she could even tell that what pinkie was planning was a bad idea and even voiced it. how fucked up is that?
fuck pinkie pie
and fuck rainbow dash. loyalty my ass.
What you have to remember is that a lot of the people who are still really into the show and think it’s as good as ever don’t like characters that bring them out of their comfort zone. This is also why they put Gilda and Iron Will in “villain” group pictures.
Does it have to be an all-or-nothing deal?
Can’t we just think she was a jerk but still have some sympathy?
And not threaten injury towards her for minor things?
Maybe you’re right. I think anybody who truly believes that Gilda did no wrong should give this article a read: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MisaimedFandom
No such thing as Two Sides to Every Story eh?
@EbenLynx
You’re wasting your time; Gilda fans think she’s blameless, and have an excuse for everything. That’s the reason “Griffon the Brush-Off” is now one of my least-favorite episodes: it’s an obvious failure in storytelling, if so many people side with the intended antagonist.
Pinkie gave Gilda and Dash their alone time (there’s supposed to be a time-skip), but Gilda wouldn’t return the favor, ultimately putting her in the wrong. The moral was supposed be that jealousy can cost you your friends. Of course, they probably could have placed more emphasis on what Pinkie did right, rather than just what Gilda did wrong.
Does that justify her actions to others that weren’t Pinkie? Or do we forget the shoplifting and uncalled for outburst towards a stranger for a causal mistake?
exactly.