This made me smile.

@Exhumed Legume  
that was your idea though , pretty sure the artist would consider neither to be correct…..

@iamli3  
Welp, can’t help you with that.  
You’ll have to take it up with the artist. Or just live with it :P

@Exhumed Legume  
the part where no bulge = good male stuffing over r63 :l ,,,,,

@iamli3
 
2: Yes, I admit your quip was uncalled for and poorly thought out. I fully admit it from the proverbial bottom of my heart.  
I also admit to being ever so slightly sarcastic occasionally. ;)
 
3: The style over time thing is an expansion of and further detail on ““he looks no different from his usual appearance,[](#comment_1966778) but OK.
 
My original points, as presented here and here, broken down into their basic elements:  

@Exhumed Legume  
2 uh yes that is what you replied with , so thanks for admitting that? which was the one point that was keeping this discussion going?….
 
3 “… meaning you’ve been arguing against a strawman ever since you decided to address the matter.”  
huh yeah i guess you’re right , though again that wasn’t your initial argument which is what i was arguing against which i still stand by…..
 
….geez the amount of times you’re brigning this conversation full circle is making my head spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round……
 
aaaand im still not seeing how talking about his r63 pics matters you us discussing your initial argument…..which itself doesn’t appear to have any relevance to what this point started out on either…..
 
4 “Gee, I guess you’ve got me there.” im not sure what is implied by this , but everything you just described right there was exactly initiated by you when i was asking for classification clarification…..
 
and as i understand it , open forums are open forums , this conversation hasn’t even really gone off topic since we’re still arguing aspects about the pic/artist , id rather see thoughtful conversations like ours in all the comment sections of things as opposed to comments like myah and myah
 
Ashe about a month ago # @ReplyReport  
What a nice girl.  
nicktoonhero about a month ago # @ReplyReport  
Curse these traps! They make me question my sexuality!

Incoming wall of text, take cover! :P
 
@iamli3
 
2: You do realize I already addressed that in my previous comment, right?  
““Which was in response to your snarky quip about logic. To spell the point out, real-world logic and reason don’t always apply to fantasy stuff.[](#comment_52e96afc6368726e1f010000)  
In other words, while you might be right about it being pretty difficult to hide yo’ junk in the real world, it’s not necessarily such a huge accomplishment in the context of magical pastel cartoon ponies.
 
3: I hate having to repeat myself, but…  
““Artists have styles. That means artists draw certain things in certain ways.  
Sometimes, styles change over time, and artists draw those things differently from the previous ways.  
Both factors are relevant when trying to second-guess an artist’s intentions at a given time.[](#comment_52e96afc6368726e1f010000)  
That’s why I brought up the matter of trends in artists’ works. And it seems to me that at the time this piece was posted to tumblr, there was very little, if any, bulging going on in Coffee’s works; Coffee the character being male here is - as far as I can tell - consistent with Coffee the artist’s style at the time of posting.
 
And while we’re on the subject, I first brought up style in this(lack of prominent bulge doesn’t really count, especially when it’s consistent with the artist’s style) comment - which you dismissively brushed aside - and specifically addressed current style in the next one, to which you replied:  
“”[…] i find more images of the cahracter with bulge than without…..[](#comment_52df38306368727159480000) meaning you’ve been arguing against a strawman ever since you decided to address the matter.
 
 
As for the R63 bit,  
““sooo like no bulge , how is this not r63?….[](#comment_52dc9c6f63687243d6100000)  
It seems unlikely, since Coffee doesn’t seem too keen on the subject and there’s only one unambiguous example as far as I, not being fluent in Ukrainian/Russian, can tell.  
Clear enough yet?
 
4: Not in those specific words, but:  
““4: I was minding my own business, not bothering anyone, until you felt the need to question the tagging. I wouldn’t call that making a fuss.[](#comment_52e9576e63687257c8630000)
 
“sooo if replying to a comment isn’t qualitative of making a fuss , then how do you quantify me making a fuss out of anything here?…..”  
Aside from raising the issue, keeping at it, acting dismissive and brushing aside and trying to nitpick apart points against your initial hypothesis, as if to justify your preconception rather than trying to reach an understanding or truth, while I’d’ve been quite content to drop the matter and move on after my first or even second reply to you?  
Gee, I guess you’ve got me there.  

 
 
As I understand it, comment threads are primarily intended for comments about the images themselves, not for long, drawn-out bickering about trivial matters and splitting hairs about phrasing. This thread has been veering kind of off-topic for far too long already.

@Exhumed Legume  
2 ok you realize we’re talking about the first instance of the fantasy argument being brought up here and not the first reply made to one another on this page right?…..
 
3 and here you are aware we’re talking about when you tried to bring up the argument of a trend in the art and not how many r63 pics of this character you can find yes?…..
 
4 “Again, replying to a comment ≠ making a fuss.”  
again? you never made that claim before this….
 
sooo if replying to a comment isn’t qualitative of making a fuss , then how do you quantify me making a fuss out of anything here?…..
 
how is this spam if we’re talking to each other holding a conversation?….

@iamli3
 
2 Que?  
““sooo like no bulge , how is this not r63?….[](#comment_52dc9c6f63687243d6100000)  
And that’s what I told you.
 

 
“2”2: It’s an image of an anthro pony. A fantasy character, the likes of whom don’t really exist in the really real world. Really real world rules don’t necessarily apply. Duh.”  
first instance of this being discussed , which was your post….”  
Which was in response to your snarky quip about logic. To spell the point out, real-world logic and reason don’t always apply to fantasy stuff.
 
 
3: “…..and that’s relevant to what exactly?….”  
““sooo like no bulge , how is this not r63?….[](#comment_52dc9c6f63687243d6100000)  
I’d say the existence of only one confirmed R63 image of Coffee the character by Coffee the artist is sorta kinda a little bit relevant to your question.
 
“… i was never discussing any trend in the artist’s work…”  
Artists have styles. That means artists draw certain things in certain ways.  
Sometimes, styles change over time, and artists draw those things differently from the previous ways.  
Both factors are relevant when trying to second-guess an artist’s intentions at a given time.
 
4: Yes, I replied to Silver Strength before you. Again, replying to a comment ≠ making a fuss.  
Also, you might notice that 19 whole days _{(and 46 minutes)} passed between my reply to Silver Strength and your question.  
19 days during which I still made no fuss.  
Still minded my own business, not bothering anyone. Just as previously stated.
 
Like, are we even looking at the same comment thread?  
Which we’ve already spammed way too much with this pointless semi-off-topic back-and-forth and speaking past each other…

@Exhumed Legume  
2 replying to a comment that didn’t feature what you replied with…..
 
3 …..and that’s relevant to what exactly?….
 
yes i tallied to older works than what you did , cause i was never discussing any trend in the artist’s work , again that was only you….
 
4 “Exhumed Legume 29 days ago # @ReplyReport  
@Silver Strength  
True. And that overall build looks a bit too convincingly feminine.  
Buuut the nose has some of the angular stallion shape, and apparently the character is “canonically *” male, so…  
Unless the artist states otherwise, this is, presumably, a “trap.” I guess.
 
*As far as the term can be applied to OCs, that is.  
iamli3 10 days ago # @ReplyReport  
sooo like no bulge , how is this not r63?….”
 
like are we even looking at the same conversation thread anymore?…..

@Exhumed Legume  
Addendum to  
3: You followed my ““current norm[](#comment_52debd286368725404370100) comment with i find more images of the cahracter with bulge than without…..  
That means you pointed to older works as evidence against this being a feature of Coffee’s current style.  
False accusations, always classy.

@iamli3  
2: I was replying to your comment. That’s not bringing it up.
 
3: “… and the artist doesn’t seem very enthusiastic about R63 of the character. Going through their Tumblr, I found only one unquestionably clear example.”  
Only one unquestionably clear example of Rule 63 of the character, which you’ve twisted into “only one clear bulge” or whatever. Yeah. Nice strawman.
 
4: I was minding my own business, not bothering anyone, until you felt the need to question the tagging. I wouldn’t call that making a fuss.

@Exhumed Legume  
1 yup…..
 
2”2: It’s an image of an anthro pony. A fantasy character, the likes of whom don’t really exist in the really real world. Really real world rules don’t necessarily apply. Duh.”  
first instance of this being discussed , which was your post….
 
3 “Bottom line is, there’s no strong evidence for the character being anything but straight-up male here, (lack of prominent bulge doesn’t really count, especially when it’s consistent with the artist’s style) and the artist doesn’t seem very enthusiastic about R63 of the character. Going through their Tumblr, I found only one unquestionably clear example.”  
was actually your initial argument , to which i replied  
“i find more images of the cahracter with bulge than without…..”  
no mention of any  
“… current norm for [Coffee’s] works.”  
it was only in your next reply that you decided you should argue that position , i however wasn’t interested in that , nice straw man though…..  
>logic of 2014 indeed…..
 
4 i would care to ask the artist , but not on that site…..  
and i wasn’t the one who made a ‘big’ fus about it , that was you…..

@iamli3
 
1: Welp, don’t know what you’re seeing i those later ones, but I guess there’s no way to argue with subjective perception…
 
2: No, I’m pretty sure that was you.
 
3: “… current norm for [Coffee’s] works.”  
“… currently a part of Coffee Cream/Maccoffee’s style.”  

Logic 2014, indeed…
 
4: No skin off my back, but if you don’t care enough to ask the artist, why raise such a fuss over it in the first place… Pointless.

@Exhumed Legume  
1 mmm those look like bulges to me….
 
2 you’re the one that brought it up….
 
3 more uploads of non explicit pics that have bulges….
 
4 still don’t do tumbler….

@iamli3
 
Wall of Text, engage!
 
1: You do know what current means, right? That holds true for Coffee’s older works up to about a year ago, sure, but when I look at the last 11 months or so:
 
11 months ago human!Coffee  
3 months ago human!Coffee  
1 month ago human!Coffee - See anything? There’s a bit of shading, but I can’t really tell  
1 month ago Same as >>498808  
1 month ago The image you’re looking at  
2 weeks ago Is that a bulge? There’s like a little bit of curve right under his hip, does that count?
 
It almost looks like the bulges were getting less and less prominent - even nonexistent - towards the present day. You know, currently.
 
 
2: Fantasy theory. Somewhat pointless to quibble about.
 
3: If I’m interpreting that partly-pleonastic sentence correctly, you’re saying Coffee the artist has drawn Coffee the character in non-explicit situations more often than explicit? If that’s what you meant, well, duh. A lot (most, I daresay) of Coffee’s posts are SFW, more or less.  
However, ““linking me his tulmber home page […] doesn’t help[](#comment_52df38306368727159480000) gave me the (false, as I now see) impression that you didn’t delve deeper into Coffee’s tumblr. At the time I was referring to the ones here on Db, because that’s what I thought you meant by “all his uploads.”
 
4: You don’t need to. Right under the text box it says, ”Ask anonymously or login,” emphasis mine.
 
Oh, as a side note, I referred to the character as a “femboy” earlier and the artist uses that specific term to describe him in this tumblr post.

@Exhumed Legume  
1 again i see the opposite trend in his archive….
 
2 the idea of the character is fantasy , us discussing what the cahracter is capable of is theory…..
 
3 i still see more images of this that are non-explicit that don’t contain any exposed erections…..
 
4 i don’t have tumbler…..

@iamli3  
1: “I don’t see any cameltoe either.” = Pointing out lack of evidence for a vagina.  
The positive claim part was based on wading through the tumblr archive and noting a trend. Sure, it doesn’t - strictly speaking - prove anything, but it does strongly suggest that this is just current a part of Coffee Cream/Maccoffee’s style.
 
2: And this image here is quire clearly fantasy.  
So by your own admission, logic need not apply, which makes your whole argument an exercise in futility. Well done.
 
3: The reason I linked to the tumblr page is simply because what’s uploaded to Derpibooru is only a tiny fraction of the artist’s works, and s/he doesn’t seem to care much for tagging. If there were a relevant tag readily available, I’d have linked to that.  
Also, I said “non-explicit.” There’s only one other example here on Db, (>>498808) and all those exposed erections don’t exactly fit the criterion of being non-explicit, now do they?
 
4: Mayhaps not the best word for it, I’ll grant you that, but still - you could always take it up with Coffee themself. Type in something like, oh, I dunno, “Hello, sorry I have to ask, but is coffeecream.ru/post/70392724290/cristmass-postcard-3 supposed to be male, female or something else? Thanks in advance!” Of course, you’d have to keep tabs on their tumblr to see if you get an answer, but hey, nothing beats Word of God if you do.

@Exhumed Legume  
1 “Just pointing out there’s no evidence of a vagina.”  
“More like a “femboy” who’s really good at tucking in his junk,”  
that’s making a positive claim on the pic not ““Just pointing out there’s no evidence of a vagina.”……
 
2 logic deals in the realm of theory not fantasy so arguing that is invalid…..
 
3 linking me his tulmber home page which has no images of this cahracter on it doesn’t help , but i did already go browse through all his uploads , and i find more images of the cahracter with bulge than without…..
 
4 complaints?……

@iamli3  
1: Just pointing out there’s no evidence of a vagina. Assumptions ≠ logic.  
2: It’s an image of an anthro pony. A fantasy character, the likes of whom don’t really exist in the really real world. Really real world rules don’t necessarily apply. Duh.  
3: Featureless crotches seem to be the current norm for this artist’s non-explicit works. Yes, even with males. Do your homework first.  
4: Feel free to take your complaints to the artist. ;)
 
Or just imagine him as any gender you’d like, if that makes fapping easier for you.

@Exhumed Legume  
>is better at hiding outline of male reproductive organs through underwear than hiding female reductive organs  
>logic 2014…..

@iamli3  
I don’t see any cameltoe either. -> More like a “femboy” who’s really good at tucking in his junk, it seems. :P  
Bottom line is, there’s no strong evidence for the character being anything but straight-up male here, _{(lack of prominent bulge doesn’t really count, especially when it’s consistent with the artist’s style)} and the artist doesn’t seem very enthusiastic about R63 of the character. Going through their Tumblr, I found only one unquestionably clear example.
 
There’s one of him as anthro with breasts, _{(kind of looks like a sequel to this post earlier; Google translates the title “Покажи грудь” as “Show breast,” by the way, for what it’s worth)} but his _{(or her, to acknowledge the possibility)} face still looks relatively masculine in that one, so it seems like dude with (magically-induced) titties rather than R63 to me.  
Of course, I don’t speak Russian (and am too lazy to try to type the dialogue into Google translator or something) so I’ve no idea what Twilight and RD are saying beyond “Da,” and thus can only attempt to infer what’s going on by the visuals, so maybe I’m missing something.

@Exhumed Legume  
right , so cuntcolt then?….

@iamli3
 
1: By default, as pointed out in my comment just below yours, and  
2: Anthro aside, he looks no different from his usual appearance. Same stallionly nose, same marely eyelashes.

sooo like no bulge , how is this not r63?….