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@HighRollerHydra  
@Several_awkward_minutes  
Kinda looks like the result of an unholy night between Dracula and a Predator, dudn’t it?
 
Before Guillermo Del Toro resurrected the giant monster genre, and Meyer drove a stake through vampires’ collective heart, he helped breathed life into these things: ‘Reapers’. A vampire experiment that went horribly right. While they can live without blood, they’re also born with a biological addiction for it, living in perpetual agonizing hunger. Like leeches their saliva contains a coagulant, making it easier to vacuum blood out of their victims with their actual mouthes, which are extendable as well as prehensile. The two sides of their jaw are actually pincers that help keep their victims in place.
 
Did I mention they feed on humans and vampires?
 
Not saying Orlok’s not a classic, but I just get tired of people who think all the life’s been drained from modern vampires. If you need more proof, Del Toro’s also written a trilogy called ‘The Strain’ that I can’t endorse enough.
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#ChanYe2028
@ender1200  
Pretty much. As Pixelkitties put it, the real ‘story design’ is actually in the clothes  
You remember how Lauren said she only played with the G1 toys, what little info was on the cards, and didn’t watch the show until way later? How do you think she was playing with her ponies, then? That’s pretty much Mattel’s secret to success, they give you the set pieces and ‘actors’ and their archetype and you handle the rest. They do that shit for Barbie too, like Career Barbie and McMansion Variant Barbie. How/Why/When she got to be a doctor while still being a model and a pilot who for some reason is always lounging by the pool and not flying is all up to the kid. Having a long show might actually hurt the line at this point since now more personality traits would become set in stone. (note that the ‘lifelessness’ of Barbie and MH’s shows and the genericness of the characters is precisely so they don’t permanently assign new traits that they can’t take back at a later date. It’s all intentionally decided that way)
 
Imagine the sheer lack of drama if Hasbro had done the same for AliTwi. Just farted out winged Twilight with no warning whatsoever. After the initial rumbling both target demo (she passed a difficult test!) and brony (She must have fought some epic villain!) would have worked up their own headcanons for it. That’d allow time for it to be shoved off to the side and forgotten until they made a bonafide movie, instead of this hackneyed rush job that nobody liked past the songs.  
Likewise, if they had just farted out the dolls as pack-in attachments to the pone figures and not the main draw, and then slowly pumped out accessories with little six page postage-stamp-panel comics, nobody would have really noticed. Instead you got a terrible movie that damaged both demographics’ interest before the dolls even hit the shelves, and drove more to quit the main show/fandom than even AliTwi.
ender1200
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@Itsthinking  
So your problem is only with the series?  
Mattel have a very different approach to toy based shows. with around 30 years of experience Hasbro now sees the shows as an integral part of every IP they hold. They understand that for many people MLP and Transformers are mainly the shows, and the toys are the extra. This is why they put the effort and quality control on the media they produce.
 
Mattel on the other hand sticks to toy manufacturing. They have neither the experience nor the reputation Hasbro have to maintain in the matter. For them the show (i understand that the MH show is only on the web, correct?) is either just an extra thrown towards those that are all ready fans, or simply a toy commercial. When people talk about the MH phenomena they don’t talk about the MH show and books, mainly because they have no more consequence then the school bags and stickers.
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@ender1200  
There’s a difference between using vampires as a means to explore human sexuality and creating a self-insert novel with flat characters.
 
Bare in mind that I really do not care about toys, I like animation. So when I say the next few words, I am not taking FiM, EqG, or Monster High’s toys in mind.
 
FiM is like having filet mignon served on fine china. EqG is like having a really good hamburger made from quality ingredients served on fine china. Monster High’s cartoons are like cafeteria sloppy joes served on plastic trays.
Kiana

@Whatevs  
I don’t think an argument over a completely unrelated product counts as you trolling. It’s more… incidental than anything else.
 
Besides, you say that as though trolling is difficult.
ender1200
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@Itsthinking  
You are getting worked up over a product not aimed at you. What makes themes such as monsters fitting to adult men entretaiment only?  
If anything this might drive those who are interested in MH to get into the actual horror classic once they get older.  
And don’t give me twilight again, vampire fiction was exploring female sexuality since at least the 70’s. oh who am i kidding? the 70’s? Carmela is a Victorian era vampire novella about a lesbian vampire. Twilight was badly researched, badly written and immensely popular, but apart from that it is not that different from what the rest of the world did with vampire up to it’s release.
Kiana

@Itsthinking  
Monsters. Sacred. Riiiight… Much as I agree with some of your points, I’d list, I dunno, NEARLY ANY RELIGION ON THE PLANET as significantly more sacred than monsters.
 
And I’m a bloody atheist!
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And yes, the cartoons ARE that bad.
 
Plus now they’re making an even softer spinoff about their ideas of fairy tales.  
I can’t even…
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@Itsthinking  
Lessee… ‘bad influence on the toy industry’.  
What bad influence exactly? What exactly on this issue can you lay specifically at the feet of MH that cannot be attributed to other prior fashion doll lines such as Bratz and, of course, Barbie herself?
 
Perhaps it’s the idea that ‘good production sells’… except that’s not a bad influence at all. If more companies did half as much as mattel did on these then… well, we wouldn’t be panning the EG dolls for being so damn crappy, would we?
 
Perhaps it’s the idea of actually trying something new as the whole monster theme was pretty original when they started it… except that’s not really a bad influence on the industry at all (except in terms of everyone copying it in an attempt to cash in on their success, but that’s hardly new to any toy line ever).
 
Wait, no, clearly it’s due to the clothing and those short skirts! Which… y’know… have to be pretty short anyway in order for hip articulation to work properly and frankly short skirts have been on fashion dolls since Barbie - there’s no way you could lay that at MH’s (massively over-detailed-shoe clad) feet.
 
Or maybe it’s the price? Which…. on a number of dolls tends to be lower than most competitors even before you look at the difference in production qualities.
 
As to effect on popular media… again you’re going to have to actually lay down some concerns there chap, you can’t just say ‘it has an effect’ without bothering to say what that effect is.  
Unless, y’know, this is just you whining about them using classic horror monsters as a theme again - in which case they’ve at least produced something with more depth than crap like Twilight and Anne Rice ever did and they made use of monsters which have been pretty much ignored by media period because they’re not suitable for either ‘panty wetting romance’ a’la Twilight or generic zombie hordes a’la damn near everything involving zombies ever.
 
As to cartoons produced on the series… I’ve not really seen any of them so I can’t really comment. However i find it hard to imagine they could be much worse than the godawfully vapid stuff that’s usually peddled as ‘wholesome teen drama’ on tv.
 
 
So… yeah. Either put up some actual specific arguments or stop repeating the same ‘they’re a bad influence’ whine that soccer moms like to use.
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Sorry, read that editorial she did. Still think MH is a bad influence on both the toy industry and popular media.
 
Oh, and the cartoons based on the series are absolute garbage.
Buttstank
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@ender1200  
This. I have no interest in fashion dolls but I know a quality toy when I see one. Plus the fact that not only is customizing them easy, it’s encouraged. That is a rare thing outside of building toys like Lego.
 
Also, the only scary vampire is count orlok