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Amana09
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@Erebien
 
There are good villains who are evil, simply for the sake of being evil. They don’t care about anyone or anything. Probably wrong, but I think of Darkside as being evil just for the sake of being evil. He wants to expand his reign, look for the anti-life equation, and just make people miserable as hell.
 
Doomsday is a personal favorite of mine because the creature is just mindless. He doesn’t seek power, wealth, glory, or anything remotely within that realm of pettiness. His backstory is also interesting, the real one where that scientist put that baby on Prehistoric Krypton and all.
 
I’m going for a sort of Sherlock Holmes vs Moriarty idea where both the protagonist and antagonist are intelligent, but they have different ideals on how to possess what they want. The protagonist believes in the pursuit of what he cares about, however, throughout the story, he slowly comes to understand there are limits and if you break those limits you can easily hurt those around you. The antagonist has a different approach where only the goal is what matters and what stands in the way can only be considered obstacles. He will relent that decision if the protagonist already knows the outcome, considering the exercise of say, torturing something to see what makes it tick, rather ridiculous since that’s valuable time eaten away that can be devoted to other research. It’s rather simple and crass, but I think of the antagonist as the old saying, “Means to an end.”
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@Mooncalf  
Agreed, a villain dat is simply “evil” is pretty empty and to have a goal to destroy/conquer coz they want to without some sort of valid reason or motivation makes a boring, hard-to-relate villain.
 
Of course, some authors write their villains to be hated to the core (like how everyone hating on Joffrey until his ultimate and embarrassing death)
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@Amana09  
Interesting. One should always remember that antagonists should have motivations for their actions, and rarely self-identify as ‘evil’, although others may consider them such.
 
For instance, Discord isn’t really evil, because he doesn’t identify himself on that scale - rather, he seeks enjoyment and delight. To him, Celestia was the evil one to trap him in stone, where he couldn’t do anything at all, not even move.
 
Nightmare Moon? Wanted respect and wanted her subjects to to appreciate her night, even if she’d have to force it on them. It was fair to her.
 
Trixie? Huge ego and pride, and an unwillingness to accept that she had shortcomings. Twilight showed her up by doing what she could not, so she wanted to show Twilight up so she could convince herself she was still great. Getting drunk on power did throw her off her rocker somewhat, though.
 
And so on. Admittedly having motivations for their actions does not condone a villain’s crimes, but it makes them more interesting than ‘for the evulz’.
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@Mooncalf
 
Yup, and it’s hard to write that into the character for both, building them up, and showcasing it to the audience in such as way that it feels heartfelt vs some stupid contrived plot point, designed to merely be there.
 
I prefer some of the more thought provoking villains myself. Want this for a story/piece that i’m writing where the antagonist’s ideals are just while the protagonist seeks the same thing, but believes there are limits to those ideals. If those limits don’t exist, then the ideals become corrupted.
Mooncalf
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Protagonist/antagonist dynamics is tricky, but can work out very well if done right. An enjoyable villain you take an interest in is awesome. A jerkass hero who you’re supposed to root for is horrible.
 
And a story where even the villain is a hero? That’s really good.