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@Kanrabat
 
>Since when does a villain deen “profound” motivations to be a dick?
 
One thing is being a dick and another being a villain,though more than once these two are often together,there are villains that act like the perfect goody two shoes,care for their friends or are considered heroes.
 
So yeah,sometimes there’s no profound reasons (or no reasons at all) for being a dick,but sometimes there ARE reasons behind it.Sunset had plenty of background that the writers could have used to go at least a bit above average.
 
In any case,they DO need motivations,of course those motivations don’t need to be something that makes him/her seem like a good person underneath it all,but they do need them.
Background Pony #930F
@Kanrabat  
What? No, seriously, what? A villain without motivation is retarded and is considered a weakness by every single story writer out there. And no, no matter how much you give us Hitler’s back-story, very few people can consider him a hero. I understand his motivations perfectly, due to historical record, but he is no hero. Want fictional examples? Ganandorf’s motivations have always been to ensure his people’s freedom and return back to the riches that were stolen from them. Voldemort? His fear of death and desire to never be under anyone’s power (for that only brought him pain) cause him to become what he was. Sauron? Sauron was essentially a demigod who let himself carry through with the promises of power over his fellows and went so far deep going back wasn’t an option.
 
Try again with a less… unconvincing reason.
Well to be fair I liked the movie as a whole, but that’s mostly because I always appreciate what DHX does no matter what, we shouldn’t be expecting the movie to be a masterpiece of cinema though, the movie fitted better to be a TV one, I think that was a screw up from Hasbro’s……
@Background Pony
 
Tl;Dr, since when does a villain deen “profound” motivations to be a dick? Every villain ever are bad guys just for the sake of being bad guys.
 
Give a villain a detailed backstory with awesome purpose, and they stop being villains entirely. That villain become a hero.
Background Pony #930F
@Background Pony  
You have to admit, however, it can get a bit ingratiating to go and say, “Sunset Shimmer was the worse villain they have made up to this point in the whole show as her motivations were far too weak to support her actions, and her ultimate plan was completely stupid, to the point Twilight doing nothing would have done the same effect than actively trying to stop her.” then, despite point out to all the various things (the lack of development of motivation from part of Sunset at any stage, the holes and implications of Celestia (and her parents) essentially abandoning a student like that, the fact an army of teenagers remains as effective as every other army of teenagers ever has) will always yield three general responses:
 
“You are wrong, I liked Shimmer and therefore your arguments are invalid.”
 
“You clearly don’t understand the message of friendship of the show, so all these problems were covered to show the message, isn’t it obvious?”
 
And my favourite:
 
“Lel, you must clearly have nothing better to do if you are analysing a kids movie.”
 
Arguments of strawmen aside, these are three averages responses you get when you try to make a supported argument for any given position, and this will soon cause even the nicest person to tell the ones who say they loved it to go do the vertical congress with the closest bollard.
Background Pony #598C
My problem has more to do with people who act like their personal opinions are somehow absolute facts that everyone in the whole world agrees with. And yes to be fair this goes for BOTH sides. My general rule is it’s fine to have opinions so long as you don’t attack others for having differing ones… or in layman’s terms, don’t be a dick about it.
 
The people who liked it need to stop saying “if you don’t like this movie then you were never a true MLP fan!” while the people who don’t like it need to stop with all this faux-greentexting “implying” stuff any time anyone says something positive about the movie, and quit trying to sour the opinions of those who did like the movie simply because their opinion is different.
Background Pony #930F
@Blissey1  
Not at all, they have just been listed so many times, here no less, that a fast search should get you to the complete list of plot holes, meta issues, and far more things that go into making the film be nothing but weak, unmemorable, and generally all the qualities of a bad film we would all point to should responses such as “well, the situational jokes and the barrage of references was funny” which is the exact defence I get from such things as Norbit.
 
Mind you, I found Norbit hilarious for whatever reason, but that doesn’t stop it from being one of the worse films made within, I dare say, the last twenty years. EqG is on a similar vote, were the dressing isn’t terrible, but the salad itself is mushy and has been out in the soon far too long. Disaster averted? I suppose, the predictions were that the whole film would be completely unwatchable, but that isn’t the case.
 
It’s just badly written, with a plot so paper-thin thinking for a second breaks it apart, characters left and right which can generously be described as bland (and ungenerously described as pants-on-head retarded), and many other things mar the whole.
 
If you wish to insist that’s not the case, opinions exists for a reason, I suppose, but I do hope you take the time to ask yourself why do you actually like what you are watching, but more importantly, why are you ignoring all it’s flaws. Saying it is good for what it is isn’t a defence.
I didn’t watch the movie. I asked my little sister when we went to see Monsters University this week, to go in to the next theatre where they were showing EqG, and tell me how many boys my age, older or younger, do you see in there. Surprisingly, She only said 3. and they were sitting together. I was dissapoint. California sure lacks the brony spirit.
@Kanrabat
 
>the movie is good  
>good
 
Decent,tolerable,not that excruciatingly bad,slightly enjoyable.
 
“Good” would be pushing it,but certainly wasn’t a complete shitfest.
Background Pony #930F
@Kanrabat  
Ehmm… the movie is still bad. For more reasons than I need to ever finish listing. And I’m… not impressed by his track record, but at least I can say his review was decent enough.
@PonyPon
 
Well, the “case” is to tell every hardcore fan of everything to not freak out at the slightest change or to just accept canon over their headcanon.
 
An impossible mission, I know.
Here, a (theorically) non-brony who tell the hardcore bronies to not freak out at Equestria Girls. Also, one more confirmation that the movie is good.
 
I rest my case.