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Draco Dei

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**The important part:**
I... it took me a second to get what you meant*. I wonder if something like that would be a persuasive method to use on her in-world?

*For those even slower on the uptake than me: She is so emaciated that it might (barely) fit around her waist above her pelvis. Especially if the band on what Izzy made is pretty elastic.


**The expansions, explanations, and (over-)thinking:**
I know having the patient lay down on rolled out section of paper, then outlining them with a marker and having them look at the silhouette was used in a case I saw while flipping channels on TV or something. Gives a new perspective that is I would GUESS supposed to for that particular patient** generate juuust enough disconnect from "That is me" to let them realize at a deep level "That is too thin.", but without so much psychological distance that it doesn't get into so little "That is me." that it doesn't feel relevant at a deep enough level to be a lever that they can use to shift their thinking (or that the psychologist can use like that?)... I'm guessing here, but I'm often surprisingly good for how much I HAVEN'T per se learned. (Logic and creativity can get one far... sometimes just far enough in the wrong direction to lead to disastrous results if acted on without checking with someone who *actually* knows what they are doing.)


** There is another self-harming condition that I once came up with the core of a treatment for (this required some creative thinking and almost NO understanding of psychology). Suffice to say that when I asked a psychologist about it his response was "Could work, and DO NOT ATTEMPT IT! LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS!". I later shared it with someone who had recovered from that particular sort of self-harming and was told it was universally a terrible idea. I went back and asked the psychologist and he said that part of the professional skill required is knowing WHICH individual patents would benefit from it.
Reason: "waist" not "waste"
Edited by Draco Dei
Draco Dei

[@Background Pony \#2319](/images/3057571#comment_10429111)
**The important part:**
I... it took me a second to get what you meant, and I got it*. I wonder if something like that would be a persuasive method to use on her in-world?

*For those even slower than me: She is so emaciated that it might (barely) fit around her waist above her pelvis. Especially if the band on what Izzy made is pretty elastic.


**The expansions, explanations, and (over-)thinking:**
I know having the patient lay down on rolled out section of paper, then outlining them with a marker and having them look at the silhouette was used in a case I saw while flipping channels on TV or something. Gives a new perspective that is I would GUESS supposed to for that particular patient** generate juuust enough disconnect from "That is me" to let them realize at a deep level "That is too thin.", but without so much psychological distance that it doesn't get into so little "That is me." that it doesn't feel relevant at a deep enough level to be a lever that they can use to shift their thinking (or that the psychologist can use like that?)... I'm guessing here, but I'm often surprisingly good for how much I HAVEN'T per se learned. (Logic and creativity can get one far... sometimes just far enough in the wrong direction to lead to disastrous results if acted on without checking with someone who *actually* knows what they are doing.)


** There is another self-harming condition that I once came up with the core of a treatment for (this required some creative thinking and almost NO understanding of psychology). Suffice to say that when I asked a psychologist about it his response was "Could work, and DO NOT ATTEMPT IT! LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS!". I later shared it with someone who had recovered from that particular sort of self-harming and was told it was universally a terrible idea. I went back and asked the psychologist and he said that part of the professional skill required is knowing WHICH individual patents would benefit from it.
Reason: "waist" not "waste"
Edited by Draco Dei
Draco Dei

[@Background Pony \#2319](/images/3057571#comment_10429111)
**The important part:**
I... it took me a second to get what you meant, and I got it*. I wonder if that would be a persuasive method?

*For those even slower than me: She is so emaciated that it might (barely) fit around her waist above her pelvis. Especially if the band on what Izzy made is pretty elastic.


**The expansions, explanations, and (over-)thinking:**
I know having the patient lay down on rolled out section of paper, then outlining them with a marker and having them look at the silhouette was used in a case I saw while flipping channels on TV or something. Gives a new perspective that is I would GUESS supposed to for that particular patient** generate juuust enough disconnect from "That is me" to let them realize at a deep level "That is too thin.", but without so much psychological distance that it doesn't get into so little "That is me." that it doesn't feel relevant at a deep enough level to be a lever that they can use to shift their thinking (or that the psychologist can use like that?)... I'm guessing here, but I'm often surprisingly good for how much I HAVEN'T per se learned. (Logic and creativity can get one far... sometimes just far enough in the wrong direction to lead to disastrous results if acted on without checking with someone who *actually* knows what they are doing.)


** There is another self-harming condition that I once came up with the core of a treatment for (this required some creative thinking and almost NO understanding of psychology). Suffice to say that when I asked a psychologist about it his response was "Could work, and DO NOT ATTEMPT IT! LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS!". I later shared it with someone who had recovered from that particular sort of self-harming and was told it was universally a terrible idea. I went back and asked the psychologist and he said that part of the professional skill required is knowing WHICH individual patents would benefit from it.
Reason: "waist" not "waste"
Edited by Draco Dei
Draco Dei

[@Background Pony \#2319](/images/3057571#comment_10429111)
**The important part:**
I... it took me a second to get what you meant, and I got it*. I wonder if that would be a persuasive method?

*For those even slower than me: She is so emaciated that it might (barely) fit around her waiste above her pelvis.


**The expansions, explanations, and (over-)thinking:**
I know having the patient lay down on rolled out section of paper, then outlining them with a marker and having them look at the silhouette was used in a case I saw while flipping channels on TV or something. Gives a new perspective that is I would GUESS supposed to for that particular patient** generate juuust enough disconnect from "That is me" to let them realize at a deep level "That is too thin.", but without so much psychological distance that it doesn't get into so little "That is me." that it doesn't feel relevant at a deep enough level to be a lever that they can use to shift their thinking (or that the psychologist can use like that?)... I'm guessing here, but I'm often surprisingly good for how much I HAVEN'T per se learned. (Logic and creativity can get one far... sometimes just far enough in the wrong direction to lead to disastrous results if acted on without checking with someone who *actually* knows what they are doing.)


** There is another self-harming condition that I once came up with the core of a treatment for (this required some creative thinking and almost NO understanding of psychology). Suffice to say that when I asked a psychologist about it his response was "Could work, and DO NOT ATTEMPT IT! LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS!". I later shared it with someone who had recovered from that particular sort of self-harming and was told it was universally a terrible idea. I went back and asked the psychologist and he said that part of the professional skill required is knowing WHICH individual patents would benefit from it.
Reason: "waist" not "waste"
Edited by Draco Dei
Draco Dei

[@Background Pony \#2319](/images/3057571#comment_10429111)
**The important part:**
I... it took me a second to get what you meant, and I got it*. I wonder if that would be a persuasive method?

*For those even slower than me: She is so emaciated that it might (barely) fit around her waste above her pelvis.


**
The expansions, explanations, and (over-)thinking:**
I know having the patient lay down on rolled out section of paper, then outlining them with a marker and having them look at the silhouette was used in a case I saw while flipping channels on TV or something. Gives a new perspective that is I would GUESS supposed to for that particular patient** generate juuust enough disconnect from "That is me" to let them realize at a deep level "That is too thin.", but without so much psychological distance that it doesn't get into so little "That is me." that it doesn't feel relevant at a deep enough level to be a lever that they can use to shift their thinking (or that the psychologist can use like that?)... I'm guessing here, but I'm often surprisingly good for how much I HAVEN'T per se learned. (Logic and creativity can get one far... sometimes just far enough in the wrong direction to lead to disastrous results if acted on without checking with someone who *actually* knows what they are doing.)

*For those even slower than me: She is so emaciated that it might (barely) fit around her waste above her pelvis.

** There is another self-harming condition that I once came up with the core of a treatment for (this required some creative thinking and almost NO understanding of psychology). Suffice to say that when I asked a psychologist about it his response was "Could work, and DO NOT ATTEMPT IT! LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS!". I later shared it with someone who had recovered from that particular sort of self-harming and was told it was universally a terrible idea. I went back and asked the psychologist and he said that part of the professional skill required is knowing WHICH individual patents would benefit from it.
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Edited by Draco Dei