BRB, killing self to find and comfort and cuddle waifu. And then do unspeakable things to that red F-er with using his horns.

@Pembrokewkorgi
 
glad to help. thanks for drawing it. ♥
 
I don’t really care what jesus said was a sin, or moses or whatever. all I know is that suicide is one of the worst things you can do to yourself.
 
if I were a devil looking for someone to bully, someone who literally destroyed themselves sounds like a pretty easy target. not likely to defend herself at all.
 
@Kamazeustra
 

man, the holy spirit sure has some trigger sensitivity!
 
it’s ironic that versions of the devil in early kabballic mythology were actually agents working for god to test his creations, a willful extension of his own power.
 
@Background Pony #0A7E
 
yeah those crazy bondage death cults, right? it’s a seriously sneaky bit of marketing to make suicide a no-no, but not murder. it excuses all the cruel warlords pitting their slaves against each other in death battles for entertainment, and promises the ultimate reward to those who die while attempting to kill others for liking things that they don’t like. the crusades for instance, and good old valhallah.

@N2MP  
It was necessary for christians to say Suicide is a bad sin. As the Christ cults are focused on rewards in the after life the current life is weighted as having little value. If being dead is to have indescribable eternal pleasure FOREVER why would a sane man want to live? So the cults emphasise that suicide is a sin and will damn you to indescribable torment FOREVER. It is all in the marketing.
 
As for the bible yah plenty of support for suicide being a mortal sin. And as it is a mortal sin that you can’t repent from (your dead) you go to hell. Thus why it is the worst sin as you damn your self to hell with it, and there are no take backs.
 
As for the atheist perspective, no hell so no worries there, but… Suicide is final you get nothing else. No second chances. So enjoy life. Life is short and no matter how bad it gets, it will be over. We all die, so embrace what you have and live every moment to its fullest.

I just want to say I like all the moral discussions going on over my silly little comic. It actually makes me happy to see this response.
 
@Burger King Leonidas
 
I just want to point out that Louie said it’s ONE of the worst sins, not THE WORST sin. So I’m sure there’s many considered worse, when you consider all the horrible things sentient life can be capable of.

@Kamazeustra  
Nice bit of info there.
 
I’m not sure how accurate it is though. The way I’ve always heard it said is that suicide is “self-murder,” and thus taking on the role of God, the one who should be the one to decide who lives and dies.
 
Frankly, I don’t see how one can really be held accountable for suicide, considering you’re in a state of mind of such grief or depression that you no longer wish to live. You’re basically literally not yourself. When depression hits everything feels gray and dull and the slightest effort feels like moving a mountain. Your brain tricks you into keeping it all inside and not telling anyone.
 
Your mind can only take so much at one time. Think how many times you read about people who ALMOST committed suicide, but were found and kept alive, and were grateful for it. They didn’t want to die so much as escape the pain. And I can’t accept the idea that someone who has gone through intense hardship and reached their limit could be judged the same way as a clear-minded individual. Calling such people “selfish” just goes to show how little they understood about the feelings the person was going through.

@Burger King Leonidas  
To be fair to the source material, the whole suicide as a sin thing is completely apocryphal. The old testament has only five mentions of suicide and none of them come with a moral judgment. The new testament has only one case of suicide and it also passes without any moral commentary attached. The only foundation for the idea that suicide is a sin rests on an intentional misreading of Jesus’ words in a single parable in Mark.
 
In that speech in Mark Jesus was very clear that the only unforgivable sin is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. And he was also clear that by “blaspheming” he specifically meant equating the works of the Holy Spirit to the works of demons. He was defending himself against an accusation of being possessed and using the power of demons. This is where his “How can Satan cast out Satan?” rhetorical question comes from.
 
The Church seized on his words in Mark 24 through 26: If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. and misleadingly connected those words to self harm and then misrepresented his moral. If you actually read the text he’s really straightforward here. He’s been accused of using his possession-induced powers to exorcise demons. He responds with the the famous “How can Satan cast out Satan?” rhetorical question and follows up with 24-26 in which he argues that it would be stupid for Satan to actively thwart his own interests. He then switches gears and stops talking in parables and directly warns the crowd not to blaspheme themselves into an inescapable damnation by taking the work of the Holy Spirit for that of demons.

That’s an absurd amount of weight and guilt to throw on something like suicide. Like where does that leave other sins like rape, adultery, laziness, envy, greed, wrath, etc?

@Pembrokewkorgi
 
well admittedly when it all boils down, alcohol gets pretty fucking strong, through distillation.
 
personally I think it’s horrifying when someone kills themselves, but so much more horrifying when someone loses the will to live, and the only reason they’re alive is they haven’t died yet.  
so suicide’s a relatively minor issue for me, compared to losing the ability to care.
 
the only thing I really remember from the old blog is el victorioso.

@redweasel  
I think it all boils down to intentions. If you did it with the ideal of killing yourself, then it’s suicide. If you did it without intentions of killing yourself, then it’s not.
 
Also in the old Berry blog, it made reference to fact she was also drinking formaldehyde, which will kill you.
 
Granted this could all also be catharsis for myself, since I went through a bad point in my life where I was borderline suicidal.

alcohol is an interestingly grey area when it comes to suicide. are you committing suicide if you don’t bother looking both ways when crossing the street? you’re not trying to get hit, but you dgaf if you do. what about if you don’t try to shoot yourself, but don’t practice good trigger discipline? if you wrestle crocodiles, you know you might not walk away from that, but is it suicide when you don’t?
 
it’s not so clear if drinking yourself to death is suicide, because it’s actually really hard to overdose on alcohol. you usually pass out long before the lethal dose, and usually your heart doesn’t stop while you’re unconscious. so you know the drink could kill you, but not that it will, just like a crocodile hunter or a careless pedestrian.
 
there’s also the fact that you’re drunk, so you’re gonna do something stupid like kill yourself because the booze makes you stupid, whether or not you’re actually suicidal.
 
not that I believe for a second that a just god would punish someone for killing themselves, or allow them to continue to hurt themselves in the afterlife, for that matter. suicide’s just a sin b/c the church doesn’t want to lose power, by its members going all “heaven’s gate” and taking themselves out of the picture.

@Pembrokewkorgi  
Oh, I don’t it that way. Suicide is not something positive at all. I just meant the ‘it’s the biggest sin’ art. As someone who struggles with suicidal thoughts I can see how it would make some people feel even worse about considering it.

@Einsman  
Well, I sure wouldn’t want to paint suicide in a positive light.

Can I just say that the last panel may give a really bad impression to people who are suicidal?

At least she now understands what a bad pony she is. Maybe in a few thousand years she will think she has learned her lesson. And maybe she should be able to leave? But that is silly as she will be tormented into eternity with no hope of escape.