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Soooo am I the only idiot who actually liked the new episode ?  
Like it’s not the best obviously and it’s wacky as hell but which mlp ep isn’t these days ?  
I can see why people don’t like it I guess but hear me out.  
I’m so glad whenever Pinkie is not just used as a slap-stick punchline type character ?
 
In this episode I think a lot of characteristics were cemented in for me that I’d always seen in pinkie pie.  
Mainly her depression.  
Yaya now all the idiots calling me a tumblrfag can dislike and leave thanks.  
I genuinely think Pinkie is a clumsy attempt at a mentally ill character.  
You know nicely along the ‘‘the people who smile the brightest are actually the saddest’’
 
Basically Pinkie has picked up a new hobby, an obsession in fact, it’s interessting and all hers, something she truly relishes in.  
Now she had been practicing in the woods but after Fluttershy found her and did not object to her playing more, Pinkie moved into town, playing all over the place (admittedly playing at night by flutters cottage was some dumbass nonsense)  
No one says anything.  
For MOONS (which we can assume is at least weeks maybe months)she plays and has a jolly good time with it and supportive friends in her back, because being into something great can make it hard to see others flinching or shying away from it.  
Sometimes you even read that kind of reaction as ‘‘oh they don’t share my enthusiasm so they don’t know how to participate’’ This is actually incredibly common especially with kids who find shows/fandoms they enjoys ? Sharing passions with friends is incredibly important !  
So after all this time of good cheer and motivation.  
Her friends confront her, making her think she will have a private play for them, just to be slapped in the face with the fact that she’s horrible, in fact she is a nuseance to all her friends, for weeks or even months, no one has said anything, they just let her play boo boo the fool.  
That kind of realization is devastating, especially to someoen like Pinkie Pie who adores her friends to bits !
 
Now not just did they tell Pinkie that she’s genuinely aweful at her hobby, but a sentiment was dropped that I find cuts deep in a way that’s hard to explain.  
‘‘We don’t want you to waste your time on something you’re not good at.’’  
There is something about this sentence that tasted really really bitter in my mouth.  
I think it in a way reminds me of gaslighting.  
Twilight put words in Pinkies mouth there, some heavy ones too .  
Instead of saying that Pinkie is disrupting others and can continue if she takes caution of others comfort, they demonstrate their point as if it’s something benificial to Pinkie.  
The point here is not wanting her to waste her time  
Which she obviously isnt !  
She’s not training for a tournament or an Orchestra and needs to get better, she is playing purely for the joy of it, so suggesting that she’s wasting her time is basically ignoring the enjoyment pinkie has because it is not productive and it bothers others.  
This is not to say Twilight is a horrible Person, I am sure she had good intentions but for someone like Pinkie Pie this is devastating.  
She has been bothering all her friends for weeks, and she is ‘wasting her time’’ with something she enjoys.
 
She then moves onto smile, agree to not play anymore and leaves for sugarcubecorner.  
This is when a rational person would talk to her, but not the main cast because then we wouldn’t have a problem.  
Pinkie is clearly upset but she left to avoid showing her truly hurt side, Pinkie is a comical character, she is always overdramatic, she cries rivers and smiles wider then her anatomy should allow, but genuine emotions are hard, really hard.  
So instead of tossing the instrument aside and joining her friends to do something else, Pinkie holes up for the evening and cries in the evening over having pushed away this new hobby she’d found and her friends who can’t hold a proper conversation for shit.  
Then, seemingly DAYS later, Spike asks Twi if she’d seen Pinkie Pie.  
DAYS !  
This part really just dumbfounded me, no of course they don’t all have to constantly hang out but when you’re dealing with someone as loud and proud as Pinkie who just had a confrontation you’d expect her to not take well, when you don’t see this person the next day wouldn’t you go up to them and talk ?  
Apparently not.
 
So over the last Days Pinkie had time to marinate in her depression, the conversation stuck with her that evening and the following day no one comes to maybe talk to her or inquire how she is doing.  
Because now she is not a bother anymore, she is not wasting her time, this is what she should be doing.  
Is that a constructive thought process ?  
No.  
Is this true ?  
Also no.  
But does that stop a depressed person to overthink and dig themselves a shallow grave ?  
Sure as sugar,not !  
After days of feeling like buggers, Pinkie finally leaves her house thinking to try and do something productive, but stepping into the light and bustling city kind of makes the problem more obvious, in a dimly lit room things oft seem better then in a bright street were suddenly it’s painfully obvious how grey and dull you’ve become.
 
Then there is a montage of her friends trying to help.  
Again not taking the right moves.  
The mane six, instead of having a proper talk with their clearly depressed friend, drag her to do stuff.  
In a lot of situations it’s great to do fun activities and spend time with friends to get out of a slump, but here that was not the right choice.  
In fact, after having given up her favorite hobby, and juggling with the question of if she’s wasting her time again, she has no fun.  
And that perpetuates the problem.  
When depressed, a person can do things they usually love deeply and still find zero enjoyment in them, which can often trigger worse depression as it seems like there is no way out and everything is really darn pointless suddenly.  
So Pinkie just let’s the day drag on without much input in her friends trying to cheer her up.
 
The next day she’s gone.  
After shutting herself in without getting help, then coming out when feeling the worst just to be confronted with all these things that she’d usually enjoy but finding them not enjoyable either, she decides to leave.  
She’s been burdening her friends, dragging the mood down, not able to laugh as she’s supposed to, she’s been bad at the things she’s good at thus making her completely obsolete.  
It’s a nasty trap.  
I think Mauds appereance also made a point, she has always been hard to read but in this episode she seemed purposefully obnoxious.  
And why would that be ?  
she’s angry. Or at least protective.  
Pinkie, looking absolutely worse for wear as Maud hasn’t seen her in a long time, telling her to pack her stuff as she moves out to cling to some kind of hope for happines.  
Maud expects her friends to catch her during these kinds of times, she expected the mane 6 to be there for Pinkie not let her fall through like this.  
So she tries to just sneak Pinkies stuff out to avoid the main cast from hurting her sister further.
 
Then in YakYakistan we see pinkie still sad and a bit bitter, not rare for bad spells either, nothing works, everything sucks and is hard, of course you get pissy.  
At this point she’s figured out that listening to the Yovidaphone doesn’t help her mood, there is no special switch.  
She feels like she’s run of her friends and is drowning her sorrow in sugar.  
It’s pretty aweful.  
When the main caste comes and barely suggests missing her she agrees to come with them, she doesn’t want to make trouble, and sure won’t put up a fight, being in yakyakistan without being able to enjoy the Yovidaphone is pointlesss anyways.  
At this point Pinkie is ready to just ride the flow.
 
In the end the thing that fixes the situation isn’t a magical instrument, it’s realizing that her friends are not mad and that they still support her even if communication has been wacked and that is a driving motivation for Pinkie, having her friends loving her !
 
Was this a silly damn Cartoon episode ?  
Was there a lot of overdramatic nonsense ?  
Was the Yovidaphone awefull and all gags involving it like the bird loosing it’s feathers ?  
Were the mane six just confused good friends ?  
Could this problem have been resolved faster ?  
Could Maud have helped by acting differently ?  
Yes on all accounts.  
Of course !  
They can’t make a serious episode out of this kids cartoon my guys !  
But I think it’s an amazing piece highlighting the downwards spiral a neurodivergent person can take !  
And while the characterization was off in plenty accounts, I choose to take away the above mentioned points rather then poo poo on the whole thing.
 
Okay, I think that ends my rant for now uff.  
Congrats if you read through  
Excuse my complete lack of bothering to check for writing errors.
 
Honorary mentions for this EP:  
  • Pinkies Balloon hoodie/pyjamas, I better see fanart of those soon  
  • Rarity sayin ‘‘Apple-solutely’’ idk what the gag was supposed to be but it was just a weird amusing moment  
  • More Yaks !  
  • Apparently the pinks ones ambassador Balloon can just float right on up into the Yak village with no problem  
  • Yaks, the perfectionist angry shits have an ‘‘instrument of happiness’’ telling us that Music is a bigger part of their culture then we probably assume  
  • The Yovidaphone, yooooo I know most of them were visual gags but am I the only one raising both eyebrows at this thing exploding a row of apples and de-feathering a bird ?  
    My headcanon will losely be that the Yovidaphone actually channels magic and because Pinkie ain’t directing hers anywhere specific, if just fucks everyone over.  
  • the joker makeup in rarities boutique, amazing  
  • also damn @ rarities ability to restore a ponies hair and coat

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Know what would’ve fixed this episode for me? If Pinkie Pie was pen pals with the yak who gave her that yovidaphone, and wanted to play it well as a token of their friendship.
 
At the end of the episode, the yak could’ve offered her lessons, or told her “Yak play outside town. Not hurt other yak ears.”
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This conversation appears to be becoming rather heated - please everyone take a break, it would be really nice to not have to read all of this.
 
@Somber Star  
Please don’t throw shade like that on this site.
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If you’re going to insist that you’re not stupid, it would help to not act like it.
 
I’m sorry I failed to make that clear, you totally not stupid person.
 
How about we not belittle each other?
 
In terms of judging them as characters, you’re really judging the authors behind them. Which tend to change by episode, let alone by season.
 
Yes, the show has multiple writers. But they all work under the same principles and guidelines. It’s not like they can completely redefine one the mane six (at least not without receiving multiple levels of approval).
 
More to the point, the OP did not appear to be judging the episode as a tiny segment of a long animated advertisement for toys ostensibly meant for little girls, which is what it is.
 
That is indeed the crux of the show, but FiM is also clearly something much greater. This fandom would never even exist if the show never strove for anything beyond that basic goal. Moreover treating the show as nothing but that (and essentially on the same level as Newborn Cuties) is insulting to the staff to say the least.
 
@mjangelvortex  
Are you trying to suggest that people can’t critique, discuss about, or think about a show like this? Because I find that notion kind of absurd. Any work of art can be discussed about or critique. We’re not stupid. We know that the characters are fictional.
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@mjangelvortex  
I did call myself out on that in the very next sentence. Please don’t quote-mine me. It makes you look either disingenuous, or like an idiot. Or both.
 
Regarding judging the characters, I was referring to judging them as people, not as /characters/. If you’re going to insist that you’re not stupid, it would help to not act like it. In terms of judging them as characters, you’re really judging the authors behind them. Which tend to change by episode, let alone by season. I’m sorry I failed to make that clear, you totally not stupid person. And your personal offense taken over a comment not directed at you is baffling. The fanbase is not a collective. We don’t all have the same level of intelligence, maturity, life experience, or a myriad of other traits that go into character interpretation. Even then, even smart people like myself do things like “forgetting”, “lapsing”, “misestimating”, and a variety of other things that can potentially up to entirely negate any solid ground we might think our arguments are standing on. Such is life.
 
More to the point, the OP did not appear to be judging the episode as a tiny segment of a long animated advertisement for toys ostensibly meant for little girls, which is what it is. Instead, they were judging it as a moment out of the “lives” of the characters portrayed in it at the moment. I was trying to offer consolation, miserable as my effort is, in the notion that the characters ceased to be who they were when their ownership was taken from their creators by the soulless corporation who owns the license and put into the hands of an ever-changing roster of disposable filler authors. In short, what you’re not seeing here is friends betraying and hurting each other, but a corporation using cartoon depictions of hollow plastic shells to advertise for the hollow plastic shells they’re trying to sell.
 
The heat in that branding iron lies in Quibble Pants, who was made expressly to scorn the older fans who noticed the corporate mugging and complained about it.
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Ah… emotionally-driven posting. What would the internet be without you? Probably a lot more bearable.
 
You seem to be doing a lot of the same exact thing you’re complaining about here.
 
@Somber Star  
You can’t really judge them because they have no free will. This, combined with the fact that they are cartoons meant somewhat more to advertise a product than to tell a story makes taking anything they do or experience seriously (a problem I share with the OP) is an act of pointless masochism.
 
Are you trying to suggest that people can’t critique, discuss about, or think about a show like this? Because I find that notion kind of absurd. Any work of art can be discussed about or critique. We’re not stupid. We know that the characters are fictional.
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@cloudkicker108  
The main thing to remember is that the characters are nothing more than props for use by the writers, in the way that the toys are meant to be props for “make-believe” games. Their words and behavior are not their own, but those of their handlers of the moment. There are multiple and constantly changing official writers which is why the characters’ behavior is all over the place. There isn’t any growth because each episode might as well be a show put on about entirely different individuals who look eerily similar to the ones you think you know. You can’t really judge them because they have no free will. This, combined with the fact that they are cartoons meant somewhat more to advertise a product than to tell a story makes taking anything they do or experience seriously (a problem I share with the OP) is an act of pointless masochism.
 
We need to stop feeding our own depression, at the very least from this particular trough.
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I’m here to set some records straight.
 
This seems to indicate your comment is the correct interpretation, when a lot of it is opinion-based. Now don’t get me wrong; you are more than welcome to your interpretation of events. But that is not definitive or absolute.
 
It brutalized her.
 
While certainly not a high point for her, “Yakity Sax” didn’t ruin her character either. She’s had far worse depictions in the series.
 
“Pinkie being Pinkie” was supposed to encompass all of her uniqueness, which includes her ability to solve problems by approaching them from angles that would never cross another pony’s mind and her odd moments of courage and maturity.
 
It also covers moments where Pinkie’s actions have no discernible explanation (i.e. fourth wall breaks) or would be considered extreme relative to the neurotypical.
 
Early in the series, Pinkie was presented as alert to and cognizant of the feelings of other ponies in her own way, but that has been sacrificed for the sake of cheap gags and unnecessary conflict.
 
The only instance in the earlier seasons where Pinkie was actively cognizant of others was in “Griffon the Brush Off”, where she refused to prank Fluttershy. Moreover, she hasn’t lost that alertness either. In the previous episode–“The Mean Six”–she didn’t hesitate to stop her own fun and comfort Fluttershy when she noticed her friend crying.
 
the Mane 6 were being inhumanly gentle with her about it.
 
That’s true. But that doesn’t mean they handled it perfectly either. It’s one thing if they gave her actual criticism, but they didn’t and what they told her simply boiled down to “You suck at playing, so stop it”. There was no attempt whatsoever to even compromise with her.
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@Somber Star  
Hey my man so in the beginning this sounded like a critique but in the end I am not sure what your point was ?
 
I pretty much agree on your points tho we took the episode in a bit differently of course, I think personally I just know to take all of it with a big ol spoon of salt because the characters are written incredibly inconsistently.  
And I never said I don’t think the other mane 6 don’t have mental illness, simple pointed out Pinkie because the episode was about her !  
I think overall everyone reacted quite poorly to all the happenings, the m6 as well as Ponka herself.
Somber Star
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Ah… emotionally-driven posting. What would the internet be without you? Probably a lot more bearable. For example, you wouldn’t have to deal with my irritation at this. Please bear in mind, I’m not here to bully, demean, or call names. I’m here to set some records straight.
 
For starters, let’s address the issue of the line about what you might be good at. Granted a vacuum or the absence of the bulk of the series up to this point, Twilight’s line would be undeniably and inappropriately harsh. But we’re 8 seasons in at this point, and seldom have characters’ passions aligned with their talents. To the characters, that’s 8 years of interacting with and getting to know each other. I would think that at this point, any interpersonal offenses would HAVE to be intentional, although I’ll grant that probably means something different for girls than for boys. Twilight adores books but can’t even reliably sort, distribute, market, or write them. Sometimes you’re just not good at something that you love. It’s a sad fact of life, but also the reason why you pay people who are. That’s what being a fan is.
 
Regarding Pinkie’s mental instability, I’m curious as to why you think that it’s just her, when both Twilight and Rarity are obsessive, Fluttershy has antisocial paranoia, Rainbow Dash is a personality disorder, and ultimately all of these are characters and their behavior is merely a projection of their authors’ perceptions. In fact, it’s the small amount of respect I had for Pinkie that causes this episode to grate me. It brutalized her. “Pinkie being Pinkie” was supposed to encompass all of her uniqueness, which includes her ability to solve problems by approaching them from angles that would never cross another pony’s mind and her odd moments of courage and maturity. Early in the series, Pinkie was presented as alert to and cognizant of the feelings of other ponies in her own way, but that has been sacrificed for the sake of cheap gags and unnecessary conflict. Also, given the full context of Pinkie’s character, I was under the impression that the message was “If you’re good at 50 things, don’t try to force #51.”
 
Regarding the treatment the other characters gave her, I think that’s more of of a product of her behavior than anything else. I’m still not sure how talent works in MLP, but as a general rule, practicing where you have no witnesses is the best idea for the first few weeks, or months if the skill in question is complex or otherwise difficult (unless you’re actively being taught). In that regard, Pinkie was right to start on her own in the middle of nowhere. When she brought it into town though, and especially when she started disrupting her friends with it, she was inviting negative consequences. Maybe a better lesson should have been “You shouldn’t let your passions blind you,” but I guess that wouldn’t ring very well with Marketing, whose job it is to make that happen.
 
Regarding her depression/BPD, I’d like to draw your attention to a previous line by Twilight, where she says (I forget the context, but I think it was directed at Rarity) “We can’t help you if you don’t tell us what’s wrong.” Psychology as a concept, let alone a field, doesn’t exist in Equestria. The Mane 6 are the closest any pony can hope to get to therapy. Ever. And they have virtually no idea what they’re doing. This is actually a serious problem because emotions are extremely important to their world.
 
Pinkie’s playing of that instrument has been equated to an animal crying in terrible suffering, which is probably traumatic to Fluttershy. I personally couldn’t watch more than 5 minutes of the episode because of my inability to tolerate the noise, and we got a remote, filtered version. I can’t imagine the agony of hearing it in person. Let alone for days. The limits of my sanity would doubtless have been put to work. In my opinion, the Mane 6 were being inhumanly gentle with her about it. Real people subjected to it would’ve probably torn her to pieces.
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I agree with most of OP’s description, but there’s one vital thing to add:
 
Music.
 
Pinkie’s youth was marked by silence on the rock farm, then a loud rainboom sparkly explosion – did you hear it in your head just now? – and then the record player she set up for her family to dance with. She moved to Ponyville and did parties, and it’s not a Pinkie party without some sort of music. She’s the singin’-est Pony we know!
 
She used a one-pony band to drive away the parasprites, and later to help defeat Tyrant Trixie. She loved the crystal flugelhorn. She has musical instruments in surprising places. It’s clear that music is, for Pinkie, intimately connected to joy.
 
But something about the yovidaphone, as played by the yaks, touched her deep inside. Perhaps it was the music she’d been waiting to hear all her life; maybe it reminded her of the Rainbooms she’s heard; it’s even possible she heard it in a really good dream once and never forgot it. Whatever it was, she locked onto it like, well, like we’ve locked onto MLP.
 
And she dreamed of bringing the same joy to her friends through the yovidaphone that she received from the yak masters. But instead of saying, “we don’t like it,” her friends said, “you don’t play it well.”
 
This kills the pony.
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I found this episode has more similarities to “It’s Not the Mane Thing About You”.
 
The major difference was that Rarity wanted to fit in with the crowd and Pinkie didn’t. In the end both solutions were actually similar.
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@Background Pony #C40B  
Hey, I liked the episode too. I’ll admit, it’s rather middle of the road compared some of the other episodes we’ve gotten this season and the ending certainly could have been fleshed out more, but I still had fun with it overall.
 
Also, there are quite a few individuals on EQD that enjoyed the episode despite its flaws.
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’’We don’t want you to waste your time on something you’re not good at.’’
There is something about this sentence that tasted really really bitter in my mouth.
 
I really didn’t like this ep, but even then the mane 5 choice of words were all kinds of wrong in this scene, not to mention not checking her for weeks. What were they thinking?
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I love it when Pinkie is not just used as just a joke character too. I think a lot of the good episodes focused on her look at these other sides to her.
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@when she felt her wings unfold  
I totally agree, tho overall the crammed feeling is not something super new to the format, the show is really good at what it does but sometimes big problems are stuffed in little packages
 
And ya twilights line made me scrunch up all sortsa ways
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This reading of it, I quite like it and I’m sort of in agreement. Oh ouch, Twilight’s line that you quoted.
 
I get the feeling that cramming a problem into half an hour that develops over months while other ponies get on with their lives and teaching/work/family duties didn’t work so well. Questions like “well, how did it get so bad”, “how come her friends just dropped the ball so often”, and “when did Pinkie’s obsession start and how does it help her?” tend to be dropped if you’ve got 5 minutes for each story development and a gag every 30 seconds. I wonder if the story could have unfolded over the course of a quarter-season alongside main stories? But then we’re talking about a very different show format.
 
(Or are we? The show has hidden little arc elements in scenes before, and everybody seems to like that.)