@Cirrus Light  
Same here. But it seems discussing anything out of the overton window makes people too upset.

@ArmadilloEater  
As I understood it I thought the image was her dying of “terminal virginity”, which would be about dating and relationships, but I think my memory’s just mixed up on comments and thinking said comments were referencing the source in some accurate way.
 
And me or raakamagna? Because I just went through my last hundred comments or so going back 28 days and I didn’t see any other times a mod had gotten onto me for being off-topic, or any comments being terribly off-topic aside from one or two direct responses to direct questions that only went one or two comments… But even those weren’t too far off iirc.

sorry, didn’t see the mod

@raakamagna  
@Cirrus Light  
Sooo, how is this conversation related to the image? Take it to PM or forums, I’ve seen you doing this a little too often.

@Cirrus Light  
If you feel bad over “stealing” a girl and not over making multiple tries with many girls, you are probably going to give up on many opportunities quite fast. Dating is often a temporary state until there is an engagement ring. I have seen many friends break up for literally anything.
 
One must choose a few people he is compatible with and improve oneself until he becomes simply the best they could aspire to find. Of course, never expect more than you offer.

@redweasel  
It started with a response to this disturbing bit: “go after anyone who doesn’t, make life hard for them…”
 
And then it was its own conversation. So really I should be the one asking “what does this have to do with…”.
 
Because what comes to mind when you say that first quote is a horrible ex-boyfriend who won’t let go of a girl who’s not interested in him, or even worse, someone who might try to “steal” a girl who’s already got a boy she wants to be with.
 
That’s at best. At worst it sounds like stalking, slandering and criminal activity.

@redweasel  
Someone mentioned being single, I mentioned I have been there. Other than that… Well. There could be a meta reference since Mordecai pretty much sucks at love.

@Cirrus Light  
don’t worry you are overreacting, but seriously, what does that have to do with some neet pony in a hospital bed? is there some kind of reference I’m missing? I don’t watch the regular show.

@Cirrus Light  
Out of respect to who? The other guy? No. I am not as stupid as to cause a break up. But, I work on my own self improvement, and if he hurts her, well, she will go to me. If HE fails her, she will go to me. It is not about breaking loyalties, but about proving who it is worth to be loyal to.
 
I am not fond of unworthy competitors. Only someone equal or superior to me would make me give up.

@raakamagna  

I’d get to know them, maybe even friend them, but I wouldn’t try anything romantic just out of respect. I wouldn’t want to be with someone I couldn’t trust, anyways. If she leaves him behind his back, then how do you know she won’t leave you behind your back?
 
To say nothing of the karmatic nature of it.
 
It’s called ethics - you behave as you hope others would behave with the hope and expectation that they’ll follow suit - things that benefit everyone when everyone does it, may benefit you if you don’t do it while others do, and a thing that makes everyone miserable if everyone doesn’t do it. That’s ethical behavior in a nutshell.
 
It’s not a zero-sum game. It’s a “if everyone cooperates, everyone wins”.

@Cirrus Light  
Oh. That is where you are wrong, my dear. If a girl I like is with someone else, I WILL still try to get her! Why? Because until she is married, everything is temporary. Unless she is dating my friend. That is what the bro code is for.
 
The sad part is I know many people, I tend to be very sociable and approach even random strangers on the street to befriend them if they seem interesting enough. But, for some reason, whenever I fall in love, things end badly. I wish I could numb my heart. I just can’t. Right now I am going through that pain. But I will stand again, I won’t end up like poor Floor Bored who can barely open up to others.
 
I like the idea of making new friends wherever you go, but the whole “player” thing, well, that is something I am not comfortable with, even though I still have the somewhat comedic vestigial male instinct of wanting multiple women. I feel the need of forming deep bonds before even falling in love. I at least must find the one I fall in love both compatible and interesting.

@raakamagna  
I think it’s depth you’re talking about.
 
I’m not saying you should cheapen yourself or tear your heart out all the time until it’s numb, I’m just saying: If you don’t get to know people, you’ll never find a mate.
 
You don’t have to wear your heart on your sleeve, you just have to talk to people, and if you’re interested in someone maybe even ask them out. That’s all.
 
I totally understand the pain of rejection, though. And sometimes you need a little break, but giving up is the best way to fail, so…
 

 
@redweasel  
You’re not in a morally good place to exact revenge. If a girl you like falls for someone else, you shouldn’t become petty and hate and attack them and stuff, “going after” kinda sounds like, I dunno, intentionally trying to spread rumors about them or stealing the heart of their gf just to get back at them.
 
I’m probably overreacting and hopefully you didn’t mean stuff like that, but it’s kinda what it sounded like to me.

@Cirrus Light  
No. I never attack others. I am stating the “slot machine” approach is just making things harder for those who seek something meaningful. And in fact it leaves those who interact with the “players” emotionally scarred.  
I believe in self improvement, but not for the sake of “game” but for the sake of achieving exceptionality, which is something I have grown to value. Improve yourself to love yourself.

@Cirrus Light
 
I know it’s comforting to think that we’re not good people, because that means the world isn’t a sucky place, despite us being single, but it’s making you claim that all disciplinary action is unjustified. so no, I’m not a violent maniac who deserves to be single.
 
really, we’re not talking anymore about ponies, neet, or hospital monitoring equipment, so we should take it to the forums, if you want to talk about whatever this is. it’s off topic.

@redweasel  
@raakamagna  
What the heck? Going after people? No wonder you guys are single (says the other single guy). No really, though, that’s… That’s just destructive. That kind of thing just drags everyone down.
 
Unless what you meant by that is building yourself up. That’s fine. It’s tearing others down to only comparatively lift yourself up that’s not, and even ineffective in a game with a huge number of players (speaking of “game” in the logic problem game-theory sense - in a game with many players, you can’t take everyone else down, so the best move is to put yourself up).
 
If they’re a girl worth dating, anyways, though, they’ll hopefully know better than to fall for some form-letterer. At least that’s what I’d hope, then freaking “Brad” happens.

@redweasel  
I agree. In fact I believe the current trend is only favoring the worst of both men and women. The “PUA” and “thots” who nobody really likes but everyone hangs with.

@raakamagna
 
some honor perhaps, but duty has caused the worst tragedies known to mankind. I worry when someone is honorable, because of what their dishonorable commanding officer might order them to do.
 
anyway by “arm’s arms race” I didn’t mean you were competing. I meant that if every guy takes the slot machine approach, then girls get swarmed in careless advances, so you have to try even more times to be at all effective. then every guy tries even more and now you’ve got to try even more more. nobody’s racing, just the situation gets totally out of control.
 
honestly I think the solution to successful dating isn’t trying more often, but in finding ways to stop the guys who are trying more often ad absurdum. nobody wants to date someone no matter how heartfelt and appealing they sound in their letter, if they mailed that same letter to 500 other girls yesterday.
 
so… put effort in your attempts to form friendships and achieve intimacy, and go after anyone who doesn’t, make life hard for them. it’s not the nicest idea, but that’s all I can think of.

@redweasel  
While I do not perceive my fellow men as foes in a race. All I can say is, the bro code was made for a reason. Because there is competition and at least there must not be competition among friends.
 
Honor exists to prevent humanity from killing each other while competing. If not because of honor, the 60s would have been a nuclear winter.

@Cirrus Light
 
you can’t control how often other guys are pulling the lever though. it’s an arm’s race, especially when there’s tons more guys than girls. there’s a physical limit to how many heartfelt personal messages you can write, and if you start sending your prospects a form letter… you might come to regret succeeding.

@Cirrus Light  
No. The social climate in Mexico is a gender war among people close in age to me. And to worsen matters, only thots and PUA succeed.

@raakamagna  
That is incredibly depressing. Online dating? Or maybe re-evaluating the “too dangerous” thing? There are double dates as a thing.

@Cirrus Light  
I gave up on trying at all. The current climate where I live makes it too dangerous.

@raakamagna  
Now, let’s imagine there’s some equation for “your odds you’ll be married in the next year”.
 
There’s a lot of terms in that equation. A lot you can’t control. But some you can. And the most obvious one is “number of attempts made”.
 
Each time you try is like pulling the lever on a slot machine, and from there it’s simple statistics; the more you pull, the more likely you are to win.

@Background Pony #22FB  
Imagine my burden. 27 and never even had my first kiss. This world is cruel sometimes. But I know you will find love.
 
 
@Scraggleman  
I got the reference from start.

@Scraggleman  
Lol, well, Floor Bored already won the NEET hat, so…