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Cause some people saw more in her than this stupid show show us and dont believe erverything they make us believe :D
Thoughts are free
And at least, she is just damn sexy :3
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Agreed.
Those who still think Chrysalis is “for her hive” must look for the term “bread and circuses”.
Your wording makes it somewhat vague, but I can make something of an educated guess.
Would you be referring to Chrysalis failing to provide the knowledge that sharing love was more efficient than simply taking it?
Assuming that is the case, what would lead you to think that she possesses it herself?
In order for this to indicate that Chrysalis deliberately starved her people, that would assume she knows about the effects of shared love, as apposed to stolen love, on changelings. Leaving aside that, as far as I am aware see, there is no real evidence to suggest this, how would she know in the first place?
Additionally, if Chrysalis does know, why would she not do so herself? It is explicitly stated in “To Where and Back Again” that Chrysalis feels the same eternal hunger as all other changelings, multiple times in fact.
I believe I had another point to add to this reply but if I did, I cannot recall it at the moment, so I shall simply leave this here and hope it provides a sufficient summary of my argument.
Exactly, Starlight knows next to nothing about Chrysalis (Starlight fan myself by the way, before someone out there think’s i’m anti-glimmer because I said something negative about her.) so we can’t just say “Chrysalis is actually a tyrant because Starlight Glimmer said so.” When Glimmer knows next to nothing about Chrysalis.
Two quotes, great job. There’s still the fact she disregarded her species’ well-being in favor of clinging to power in the S6 finale. It didn’t matter to her if they were all constantly starving or not, as long as she was in charge. Why make progress? God forbid we have anything but a hunter gatherer dictatorship where I’m in power.
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That’s rather a stretch for “tyranny”, is it not?
@Background Pony #BEC7
Several points:
Nope, ‘hive’ is still used to refer to thier home and a conglomerate of thier populace that lives there. ‘Pack’ was only used in Triple Threat thus far. May have been that writer’s attempts to make them sound more friendly, or something.
I recall Thorax saying something about it being a pack now instead of a hive.
I didn’t always mind the mommy Chrysalis headcanon, but now that Thorax, a proven cinnamon roll, is leading the hive now instead, mommy Chrysalis seems really redundant and something that’s run it’s course to me.
That’s just me though.
But that’s boring.
Just a villain that straight is boring. It’s why we got tired of her in the comics and one of several reasons villains like say, Tirek aren’t popular as they could be.
We were never told either way, but the quotes we get paint her as a tyrant more than a caring mother, so that is what I go by, and what I wish more people would go by.
You know, after the transformation it was never mentioned that the Chrysalis forced them to something, they seem to accept the old ways just fine before thorax transform
The second I contest.
Starlight didn’t know Chrysalis back when she said something similar in Where and Back Again, and neither did we.
The whole thing might be a very strong use of ‘tell and don’t show’.
The first, I can’t really shoot down, but he could just as easily be talking about past enemies as well.
Yeah, that’s a pretty accurate account. Honestly though if you really, really pay attention to her lines in S2, every time she talks about feeding her subjects, she equates it to attaining power, not just feeding them so they’ll survive.
Tools of conquest more than cherished children, from day one.
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Background Changeling, S7 Premiere: ‘No one’s ever stood up to Chrysalis like that!’
Starlight, S7E17: ‘But remember back when you didn’t have a choice! When you forced to obey Chrysalis!
Just to give two third party, canon examples of ‘tyrant, not caring mother’.
Indeed, but what is lost can be found. I’ve always been a big fan of Chrysalis for being such a good villain, but after her second defeat I feel that time has passed. If they end up redeeming Chrysalis, I’ll be happy.
They made the crucial mistake of making her goal sound very un selfish.
And then letting that sit and fester on us for so many seasons, while showing other previously ‘bad’ characters come around.
I refuse to believe she is so one note. I feel in my heart that there is more to Chrysalis. Maybe she was rough around the edges but if she was so bad her changelings would have abandoned her long ago. She has been and always will be a loving mother who lost it all.
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None of them had a fanbase quite as loud or stubborn as Chrysalis’s. I’m just sick of people trying to paint her as a sympathetic villain when she’s done nothing but be a classic Disney-like villain from day one. Why is it so hard to like her for what she is? A really well done selfish villain?
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Neither do half the people we end up forgiving anyway.
She cares about being in power more than the well being of her own subjects, she deserves no sympathy.
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