Cirrus Light 
"[@MagnaLuna":](/1492058#comment_6345666
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Discord broke free a second time and got out in a very short time after that. And that thing BGP mentioned about betraying Equestria.
Also we now have the actual scene with Nightmare Moon's banishment, and Celestia didn't sit there and decide to punish her, she just used The Elements to fight her to try to defend Equestria. And she didn't come off the moon repentant, either. She was defeated after fighting after returning.
Of the villains here, it's a really interesting note that Discord and Starlight are unique in that they weren't overpowered and defeated, but willingly gave up/submitted themselves to the ponies.
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[@Mooncalf":](/1492058#comment_6345662
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I think that's monumentally better than our system of punishment and inflicting pain, in many ways. Our horrible, broken system really only leads people into a life of crime rather than genuine repentance, really mostly in combination with self-righteous judges and our culture of persecution ensuring that convicts will always struggle financially, leading them back to crime as an escape and a solution.
Some people, perhaps many, are just genuinely terrible and may deserve it, but others are people in pain who need help, but only get beat down more and more or less have their lives ruined.
Can you imagine how horrible it'd be to be falsely convicted and end up on the Sex Offenders registry? They can't even go on a long trip without reporting it to some officer. Then there's the housing and occupation stuff on top of the criminal background.
It's a wonder *anyone* ever moves on from that kind of thing, when their entire life constantly reminds them there's no, and will never be, forgiveness.
Sciencepone of Science!
Discord broke free a second time and got out in a very short time after that. And that thing BGP mentioned about betraying Equestria.
Also we now have the actual scene with Nightmare Moon's banishment, and Celestia didn't sit there and decide to punish her, she just used The Elements to fight her to try to defend Equestria. And she didn't come off the moon repentant, either. She was defeated after fighting after returning.
Of the villains here, it's a really interesting note that Discord and Starlight are unique in that they weren't overpowered and defeated, but willingly gave up/submitted themselves to the ponies.
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[@Mooncalf
I think that's monumentally better than our system of punishment and inflicting pain, in many ways. Our horrible, broken system really only leads people into a life of crime rather than genuine repentance, really mostly in combination with self-righteous judges and our culture of persecution ensuring that convicts will always struggle financially, leading them back to crime as an escape and a solution.
Some people, perhaps many, are just genuinely terrible and may deserve it, but others are people in pain who need help, but only get beat down more and more or less have their lives ruined.
Can you imagine how horrible it'd be to be falsely convicted and end up on the Sex Offenders registry? They can't even go on a long trip without reporting it to some officer. Then there's the housing and occupation stuff on top of the criminal background.
It's a wonder *anyone* ever moves on from that kind of thing, when their entire life constantly reminds them there's no, and will never be, forgiveness.