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Past Sins and Nyx (c)
MLPFIM (c) Hasbro,
Gosh, this page took forever! Mostly because I was out of motivation and some of those poses were impossible sometimes.Though I hope you like it as much as I do how it turned out.
Oh and pleeaaaase don’t say anything that they are not fit with each other a.i. a rapier is nothing against a two-hander. They’re MAGIC.
MLPFIM (c) Hasbro,
Gosh, this page took forever! Mostly because I was out of motivation and some of those poses were impossible sometimes.Though I hope you like it as much as I do how it turned out.
Oh and pleeaaaase don’t say anything that they are not fit with each other a.i. a rapier is nothing against a two-hander. They’re MAGIC.
your current filter.Alright.
I returned that tag, since it would technically be correct as an identifier for images with Nyx in a Nightmare form.
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Will keep that in mind!
That’s fine. While you may not be able to report tags directly, you can report the image, select “reason: other”, and type out the reason in the description field.
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Sorry about that, I didn’t notice yet that you can report tags. I’m still new to the uploading stuff to Derpi
Since the artist has stated that the character in the image is Nightmare Moon, then the Nightmare Moon tag applies.
Whether or not that is “fully accurate” to any official or fan canon outside of this comic is irrelevant.
@saturnstar14
@Pepsi_Al
And for both of you:
Please do not engage in a tag fight on an image. If another person is continuing to place tags you feel do not belong on an image, report it, do not just continue changing them back and forth.
And stop editing the tags, MY comic MY tags.
You were the one bringing Nightmarity up in the first place so you’re bringing up a point that’s useless in this discussion. Penstroke said he WOULD NOT rewrite the main story anymore after the last edit.
You don’t like it, you write the story. Stop discussing something that has been already been pointed out as useless.
your current filter.I’m definitely liking the purple streaks here.
And then there’s this.
your current filter.This is a humanized version of Nyx’s Nightmare from. Not Nightmare Rarity. It’s easy to see how one can mistake her for Nightmarity, though.
But as much as I like those redesigns of Nightmare Resurgence, I still feel like something’s missing. You know what I mean?
Come on dude, stop trying to discuss this. Nightmare Nyx looks the way she does because Penstroke said she would. The Nightmarity issue came out months later after the Crystal Empire premier so that’s the end of it.
Every fact you’re bringing up about Nightmarity and comparing it to Past Sins is useless. So just stop it.
your current filter.Notice those swirls of black smoke around Luna? That’s the same black smoke that ends up taking over Rarity.
If anything, if there’s any character in the comics that would show signs of being directly possessed by Nightmare Moon, it would be this guy.
your current filter.But unlike your insinuation suggested by bringing up the sentient apple, I have a scene from the comic King Anubis appears in to back up my insinuation that King Anubis is possessed by Nightmare Moon.
your current filter.And Sweetie Belle would be the most familiar with Nightmare Moon among the CMC. Since she, you know, saw that her sister was possessed by Nightmare Moon. She even tells Baast how to defeat King Anubis.
In the series’ second four-part story arc, Nightmare Moon is shown to be a completely separate entity from Princess Luna. It is revealed that Nightmare Moon is a creature of darkness born on the moon whose very presence corrupts the denizens of the moon. Through her power over nightmares, Nightmare Moon was able to feed off Luna’s insecurities of living in her sister’s shadow, thus allowing her to take over Luna’s mind, which ultimately lead to her being banished to the moon for a thousand years. Although the Elements of Harmony were able to restore Luna back to her original form, Nightmare Moon herself continued to live on. Eventually, she hatched a plot to take on physical form by using one of the Element bearers, thus making the other five Elements of Harmony useless.
@saturnstar14
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Nyx is the embodiment of the magic left in the shreds, which was partly magic of Luna that was left and the blood of Twilight. So she has Luna’s DNA in there.
Penstroke rewrote his story so that Past Sins now takes place AFTER the season 3 premiere which was on October 11 2010. The first IDW comic came out November 28 2010 and the Nightmarity issue was March 27 2013, THREE years later.
So there goes your whole theory that Past Sins doesn’t make sense, Penstroke said he would leave the edited version as that and didn’t rewrite it anymore after that.
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let me put it this way. is this the “true” nightmare moon?
your current filter.no? then why should nightmarity be any different?
anyway, even if somehow nightmarity actually was nyx possessing rarity, that still wouldn’t stop nyx from looking exactly like nightmare moon. what happened to nyx to make her look like nightmare moon was something entirely different from what happened to luna and rarity. we haven’t seen what nyx looks like when possessed by the nightmare yet, because the author never wrote a scene where nyx was possessed by the nightmare.
as for continuity errors, remember that a lot of stuff can be rationalized, and a lot of stuff that isn’t an error can be exaggerated to look like one. that’s how the “everything wrong with…” video series works. so when you say “there are 3 continuity errors” are you talking about literal paradoxes that can never be resolved, or the characters casually making a remark that they could just be wrong about, or are you talking about a single frame in the video that had something weird in it?
your current filter.See that black cloud-like entity? The one that has Rarity ensnared? I don’t know about you. But that doesn’t look like any of the moon creatures to me.
Also
your current filter.We see that same black smoke again going inside Rarity. And none of the moon creatures shown in that scene are even shown transforming into that black smoke. Which begs the question: If that black smoke isn’t one of those moon creatures, then what is it? Maybe Nightmare Rarity’s own words (which I posted earlier) might shed some light on what it is.
your current filter.She was defeated before by the Mane 6? The Nightmare Forces were thought to be destroyed when Luna was around? Gee oh gee, just what she could be referring to? I don’t know. Maybe a certain Dark Alicorn’s defeat at the hands of the Mane 6? Hint hint.
And there’s also this.
your current filter.The Mare in the Moon is supposed to signify Nightmare Moon’s presence on the moon itself. And all of a sudden, once Nightmare Rarity surfaces in front of Luna and the Mane 5, the Mare in the Moon appears on the moon’s surface, and it understandably causes Ponyville’s citizens to believe that Nightmare Moon has returned. But, as Celestia notes, the Mare in the Moon doesn’t look like Luna. So what is with its sudden appearance on the moon? And why doesn’t it look like Luna? Theanswers to both questions are outright self-explanatory, and are as follows: The fears of Ponyville’s citizens are true, Nightmare Moon has indeed returned. And it’s managed to find a different vessel besides Luna.
And for good measure.
your current filter.Building off of the 2nd comic page posted here, if Rarity is possessed by moon creatures in this scene, then why are the very same moon creatures seen when they were coercing Rarity into wanting to get possessed seen in this scene?
Heck, even when the moon creatures get purified, Rarity’s still possessed.
So yeah. Don’t try to tell me that what I’m saying isn’t true. Especially when I know for a fact that what I am saying is indeed true.
@redweasel: Except I’m not insulting the show’s writers. Only stating the facts. Facts that can be reflected with the episodes Winter Wrap-up, Family Appreciation Day, Mare in the Moon, Luna Eclipsed, May the Best Pet Win, Hearth’s Warming Eve, and Tanks for the Memories. All of which carry 3 continuity errors. And there’s another continuity error between The Crystalling and The Journal of the Two Sisters.
Also, none of the instances you mentioned even come close to being continuity errors.
oh now, no need to insult the show’s writers. they weren’t the ones who had the mane 6 defeated by cows, books, apples, and water.
seriously though I don’t care about continuity so much. I just like to make fun of how they fail at it.
we have friendship beams for no reason! now we don’t! now we do! now we don’t again!
wasn’t the “big reveal” in the end was that rarity’s thing was because the dream boogers living up on the moon had a cloud boner for nmm in the past, and they corrupted her to try and recreate the nightmare, but actually it was just their fan-creation knockoff version, since the original had abandoned them?
it was probably both the original nightmare and a copycat nightmare, depending on what’s plot convenient, since the comic book writers don’t give a flying fuck about continuity.
Look, I know Penstroke put some comic things into the sequel of Past Sins but when he first made the story he didn’t think of the comics. For him, Nyx is the embodiment of the magic that was left behind by the elements.
So it would make sense that Nyx as Nightmare Moon looks like Luna as Nightmare Moon. I mean, she has the same memories as Luna and || later even debates if they’re her own memories or ones that are Luna’s ||.
And the “concept behind Nightmare Rarity: Nightmare Moon as a separate entity from Luna.” isn’t true. In the comic it was the Nightmare creatures that posessed Rarity. There are tons of differences between Nightmare Moon and Nightmarity even down to the cloak that’s not black but a very dark purple.
Look man, if it really bothers you that much then you should note Penstrokepony on his DA (penstrokepony.deviantart.com) or his fimfiction account (https://www.fimfiction.net/user/Pen+Stroke). I’m sure he’ll answer your questions.
And considering that she refers to the defeat of the Nightmare Forces as a past event, and the intention behind such a mention, it’s pretty clear that she’s pretty much saying “Nightmare Moon is back! And there’s nothing you can do to stop me!” Trying to argue otherwise requires blatantly ignoring Nightmare Rarity’s own words and far more leaps in logic than what can be called reasonable.
And why does how Nyx was created matter so much as to how she looks when the cultists complete what they set out to do? Take a look at Rei Ayanami from Neon Genesis Evangelism, or the Katanas and Akatanas from the Namco X Capcom games. Each of those are clones of their source material, and they don’t look anything like their source material. So why should Nyx look like Luna’s Nightmare form when the cultists complete what they set out to do when some of her own DNA is different from Luna’s? It doesn’t make sense, no matter how the cultists made her.
Concept behind Nightmare Rarity: Nightmare Moon as a separate entity from Luna.
There’s really not much conceptual differences. In fact, the only difference between the two, besides the fact that one is canon and the other isn’t, and how the same concept is executed in 2 different ways, is that the latter also builds on what Lauren Faust said about how Luna became Nightmare Moon in the first place.
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“Quarrelsome” I wouldn’t call it, I’m just open for discussion. And either way, this isn’t originally my story so I don’t know what Penstroke’s first intentions were when he created this story. I’m only adapting it into comic form.
And “don’t take criticism too well”, I do take criticism if it’s well-adjusted and well-given and has a reasonable explanation behind it. Multiple people told me already the pose in Panel 10 is atrocious and I recognized that criticism, I just can’t do anything about it anymore.
Do keep it in check please so I don’t have to report you for breaking rule 0. I learned my lesson, you should do the same.
I’ll remember it for a next time, at this moment I can’t do anything about it anymore either way :3
nyx would have to get possessed by something other nightmare thingy, before you could complain that she doesn’t look original enough in her nightmare form. she doesn’t have a nightmare form. turning her into luna’s nightmare form was something else. the cultists made her that way deliberately.
@saturnstar14
eh, they could be in the same canon, but that’s proof that nyx and nightmarity are totally different concepts. if nyx was the “nightmare forces” she’s be stuck up on the moon, as the manchild fantasy of deluded moon creatures. since nyx is not, she was formed from something different than what corrupted rarity.
If she was meant to be jumping, you failed; her greaves look exactly the same as if they were standing up, they should be distorted by the angle of the cannon OR, if they are entirely rigid single pieces, you should instead see her cannons not touching the greaves like this as they would be bent away from them.