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Ciaran
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Normally, when there's a head canon debate I'm only there because it got reported, so I really only consider those from a "Are rules being broken, and if so how should I frame a response?" perspective. So, this is really the first time I've taken the risk of talking about what I think about Nightmare Moon on the site, and I'm glad to be having this conversation with you.


 
And, I agree with your thoughts about how Luna's own internal issues "arose as" Nightmare Moon. Luna's own unresolved inner drama was the origin; the source; the sole and singular inspiration of what became the being Nightmare Moon.


 
For me, it was very much an _*evocation_* on Luna's part, rather than an _*invocation_*.


 
I think that fits very, very well with the show's whole approach to magic. And, now that Nightmare Moon has been manifested once, that energy is more accessible, in the same way that whatever "magic" makes it possible for a pony to write a scroll, and for other ponies to read that scroll and access the same magic - yet if the physical object of the scroll is destroyed somehow the magic is also destroyed.


 
Personally, I find the "And the stars will aid in her escape" idea very, very delicious. It's one of those things that an author writes, only pointing toward what hopefully will become a greater truth.


 
Whatever the outcome in the show, I think it's one of the more clever things that Lauren did.


 
the whole Nightmare Moon myth remains some pretty high energy fantasy, and I'm glad that the series is continuing to leverage it, through things like the Tantabus and Luna's persistent inability to forgive herself, and the snapshot of the alternative timeline where Nightmare Moon ended up being a fairly effective leader - and one of the few beings in the entire series to be shown simply blasting things to pieces if they're in her way.

...

 
I may have strayed from the conversation ... sorry.


 
~
PS: I find it deeply ironic that I'm having my first actual conversation about this on the site on an image that frankly was nearly deleted for "Ugh. Why are you doing this."”~
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Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

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"@Vinyl Fluff":/1279392#comment_5551125
Normally, when there's a head canon debate I'm only there because it got reported, so I really only consider those from a "Are rules being broken, and if so how should I frame a response?" perspective. So, this is really the first time I've taken the risk of talking about what I think about Nightmare Moon on the site, and I'm glad to be having this conversation with you.

And, I agree with your thoughts about how Luna's own internal issues "arose as" Nightmare Moon. Luna's own unresolved inner drama was the origin; the source; the sole and singular inspiration of what became the being Nightmare Moon.

For me, it was very much an _evocation_ on Luna's part, rather than an _invocation_.

I think that fits very, very well with the show's whole approach to magic. And, now that Nightmare Moon has been manifested once, that energy is more accessible, in the same way that whatever "magic" makes it possible for a pony to write a scroll, and for other ponies to read that scroll and access the same magic - yet if the physical object of the scroll is destroyed somehow the magic is also destroyed.

Personally, I find the "And the stars will aid in her escape" idea very, very delicious. It's one of those things that an author writes, only pointing toward what hopefully will become a greater truth.

Whatever the outcome in the show, I think it's one of the more clever things that Lauren did.

the whole Nightmare Moon myth remains some pretty high energy fantasy, and I'm glad that the series is continuing to leverage it, through things like the Tantabus and Luna's persistent inability to forgive herself, and the snapshot of the alternative timeline where Nightmare Moon ended up being a fairly effective leader - and one of the few beings in the entire series to be shown simply blasting things to pieces if they're in her way.

... I may have strayed from the conversation ... sorry.

PS: I find it deeply ironic that I'm having my first actual conversation about this on the site on an image that frankly was nearly deleted for "Ugh. Why are you doing this."
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Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Cutest Little Devil - Celebrated the 14th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

Senior Moderator
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"@Vinyl Fluff":/1279392#comment_5551125
Normally, when there's a head canon debate I'm only there because it got reported, so I really only consider those from a "Are rules being broken, and if so how should I frame a response?" perspective. So, this is really the first time I've taken the risk of talking about what I think about Nightmare Moon on the site, and I'm glad to be having this conversation with you.

And, I agree with your thoughts about how Luna's own internal issues "arose as" Nightmare Moon. Luna's own unresolved inner drama was the origin; the source; the sole and singular inspiration of what became the being Nightmare Moon.

For me, it was very much an _evocation_ on Luna's part, rather than an _invocation_.

I think that fits very, very well with the show's whole approach to magic. And, now that Nightmare Moon has been manifested once, that energy is more accessible, in the same way that whatever "magic" makes it possible for a pony to write a scroll, and for other ponies to read that scroll and access the same magic - yet if the physical object of the scroll is destroyed somehow the magic is also destroyed.

Personally, I find the "And the stars will aid in her escape" idea very, very delicious. It's one of those things that an author writes, only pointing toward what hopefully will become a greater truth.

Whatever the outcome in the show, I think it's one of the more clever things that Lauren did.

the whole Nightmare Moon myth remains some pretty high energy fantasy, and I'm glad that the series is continuing to leverage it, through things like the Tantabus and Luna's persistent inability to forgive herself, and the snapshot of the alternative timeline where Nightmare Moon ended up being a fairly effective leader - and one of the few beings in the entire series to be shown simply blasting things to pieces if they're in her way.

... I may have strayed from the conversation ... sorry.
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Edited by Ciaran