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Dammit murrison.

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Man, I’m beginning to think Murrison just enjoys having a stick wedged up his ass.
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I’d love for Murrison to explain why he watches a show that, according to him, has abandoned almost everything he enjoyed about its early seasons and is written by people who regularly attack him (and other fans viewers like him) in the show. Granted, if someone asked him that, he’d just call them a Hasdrone and immediately block them…
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The main problem is that rather than ending with “Twilight accepts Pinkie Sense as a thing”, it went past that to “Twilight accepts that Pinkie Sense is impossible to understand.”
That’s a nail on the head right there; the lesson she should have learned is that no matter how smart she may be, she’ll never be able to know everything. Just because she can’t figure out how something works, that doesn’t mean it’s a trick or that it’s impossible to figure out; she should have just continued to study the phenomenon instead of trying to disprove it, because even if it did turn out to be a fake, that way she’d be able to see how it was done. Leaving off with a message of “full” rang pretty hollow for a lot of people.
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@TexasUberAlles  
That’s basically what I thought the first time I watched it. I saw the problem as less being with Twilight’s attempts to analyze the Pinkie sense and more with her motivation. Twilight wasn’t trying to determine whether the Pinkie sense existed and she honestly wasn’t that interested in how it worked. She decided ahead of time that it didn’t, and then tried to cobble together evidence for that position, ignoring the ever growing mountain of evidence that the Pinkie Sense is a real thing.
 
The main problem is that rather than ending with “Twilight accepts Pinkie Sense as a thing”, it went past that to “Twilight accepts that Pinkie Sense is impossible to understand.”
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You want to know what’s ironic, murrison is acting worse than the character who is supposedly a strawman, meaning he’s literally a real life strawman.
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@DanielTepesKraus  
Kinda odd, but I haven’t seen that be the case with Jim & Murrison. (If they interacted all the time, the “Murrison” tag would be much bigger.) In fact, Murrison has actually been kinda quiet lately, though I don’t really stalk him, or follow his Twitter, or anything to know what he’s been up too this year/season.
 
Heck, as I said below, I forgot this guy even existed.
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@ender1200  
if you don’t understand something stop trying
 
I can completely understand how it comes across that way, but I really didn’t see it like that at all; to me, the main problem was that Twilight was refusing to accept the reality of a phenomenon because she couldn’t understand the cause of it, not that she was being held up as a Bad Example because she insisted on being curious. It just seemed totally obvious that indignation was her primary motivation for questioning Pinkie Sense, not curiosity; she only made cursory attempts at understanding the phenomenon before setting out to actively disprove it, which isn’t the same thing.
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@DanielTepesKraus  
Beyond asking Jim if Silver Spoon lives at Diamond Tiara’s house, or if she even has her own family, I didn’t really bother him all that much. That’s pretty much what I decided to use my one and only question on.
 
I’m guessing maybe Jim Miller has some sort of mental quirk or habit where he feels like he has to deal with Murrison’s negativity.
 
I have a friend of a friend who makes my skin crawl, and I dislike him rather a lot. Even though I blocked 100s of people who were better than he was, I tolerate him every once in a while to prove to myself that I can I guess?
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@Beau Skunky  
maybe. but you watch some guys with their pet asshole and it’s like they actually give them favored treatment over and above the decent people.
 
case in point, i’ll bet jim’s spent more time chatting amiably with murrison than he has with any of the decent and polite people who have asked him shit in the past.
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@Beau Skunky  
I recall him also liking “Bloom and Gloom” and (I think) “Amending Fences”. Not having followed him closely, I don’t know if he’s liked any other episodes.
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Yep, and I won’t be surprised part of what inspired the episode was the feedback they got from “feeling the pinkie keen”.
 
I’ve heard Dave Polsky talking about what message he tried to convey in FtPK and he had a really good goal with it. It’s just that this is a very delicate message to convey, especially in a kids show, and either he didn’t quite manage to pass it along or it got garbled up in the rewriting process all MLP episodes go through.
 
In the end there is also a lot to love about this episode. It have the best slapstick in all of season 1. Twilight and pinkie are hilarious in it and it have this great MLP quality of portraying a character completely in the wrong and yet keeping her likable and relatable. And ultimately it have a good message buried down inside, if you can take it with the right caveats.
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@ender1200  
Yeah, that’s a very understandable issue with the episode. I never really got much religious subtext from it, but I can definitely understand why the “don’t bother trying to understand” thing annoys people.
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@ender1200  
Well, the ep’ “Leep of Faith” also kinda addressed the issue, but from the reverse angle, so it kinda addressed those issues, as well, and showed blind faith isn’t always a good thing either.
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@Beau Skunky  
The problem the way I see it is not religion, I’ve seen many show who placed far more blatant religious messages in them. And besides religion is stemning from far deeper places than the stuff talked about in this episode.  
The problem as I see it is stuff like Homeopathy, pyramid schemes “Mediums” who will let you “converse with your dead loved one.” for the low, low price of three hundred dollar per session, and other types of con artists.
 
The episode is so close to being very right in a very important way. We are all wrong about some things, and sometimes we get to see how wrong we are. In these situation it’s usually hard to admit to the evidence and accept that the world work in a way we don’t understand, and might never will. But a lot of fans myself included also saw two rather problematic messages from in episode.
 
The first (and honestly the smaller problem) is, if you don’t understand something stop trying. This is a problem, because it kills curiosity. If you don’t understand something it’s do try to understand it, and if you can’t manage to, still hold the hope that someday you might.
 
The second and more concerning one comes from the tone of the friendship lesson on the end. It almost sounds like the stated lesson is “if your friend believe in something, you should too”. Really? even if he just threw his whole fortune on becomimg a partner in herbalife and pressures me to get in as well?
 
Sorry for renting. I just had to get this off my chest.
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@Anon-a-Miss  
Actually, there are quite a few fans, and ex-fans like that. Also, Faust was involved in most of Season 2.
 
As for “Feeling Pinkie Keen” Lauren Faust herself already had a good explanation for it. (Surpringly, this image isn’t on the site.) The “controversy” over it died down quickly though.
 
I think atheists kinda overreacted honestly. Sometimes they tend to get just as touchy with their beliefs (or things they don’t believe in) as much as religious people do. In fact, Wil Wright said many atheists got on his case over his game “Spore” just ‘cause the creatures in it could make their own religions, and temples.  
I’ve been hassled by both atheists, and religious people alike, so I know how it is. One guy here even kept bugging me trying to convert me to atheism.  
(Though, I don’t want to start a debate on religion, or anything, and I’m not saying all atheists are like that. Just pointing out BOTH sides overreact.)
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Heck, some others are much more picky then him, and dislike every ep’ after Season 1.
 
This reminds me of a certain infamous fanfic writer who disliked (almost) every episode after “Return of Hermony” solely because Lauren Faust was no longer involved in the show.
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According to Polsky himself at a convention, Feeling Pinkie Keen was meant to be more of a “Newtonian physics vs. Einsteinian physics” kind of thing.