@Zombie_Trotsky
 
Pudding head was a chancellor and Platinum was jut a Princess. They must have had ponies higher up in their governments than them.
 
I don’t know how we got here, must be the environment or whatever.
 
(Yeah, I got to do stuff as well)

I’m fairly certain they were all regarded as leaders. Even if it wasn’t authoritarianism, their people still had to go along with whatever their upper crust wanted.
 
Wait, why are we arguing about the morality of past leaders? I thought we were talking about the history of cake and its “connection” with your prophet.
 
(I got dinner to devour, so apologize if I don’t comment for a while)

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
All three of them, puddinghead, platinum and hurricane, were just emissaries, middle mares, they didn’t have the authority to do anything. So Princess Platinum’s opinion was irrelevant to whomever was in charge, maybe a queen or king.
 
And that was just a play that was seen on heart’s warming eve, so it may have been toned down a bit from the actual history. Hurricane could have threatened the other two nations with violence if they didn’t comply, and he may have been the only one with any authority in his nation, due to the military society of the pegasi.

Could have but from each of their perspectives the other sides seemed to be against them

Their only real threat were the militaristic legion led by Commander Hurricane. I doubt Princess Platinum would bother attacking “lowly earth ponies.” No offense.
 
Aside from the typical xenophobia though, no one really looked like they were in the invading mood. They could’ve had peace rather easily if they weren’t to stubborn.

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
Well, there are theories that they were using magic similar to the changelings, so they might have had a sort of hive mind. but regardless, the leaders of the nations were caught between a rock and a hard place, they were running low on food and the other nations were against them.
 
The chancellor could do nothing but hold his ground or risk having his people snuffed out by the other two nations.
 
Arguments are like parties with words, as long as it doesn’t get hurtful that is.

There’s no historical data of what the horde felt, so neither can accurately say if they were mostly hostile, looking for peace, or apathetic.
 
There’s not really an excuse for the very privileged leaders, though.
 
I have to say, for a party pony, you sure are pretty good at being argumentative.

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
How could he have known that the windigoes where causing that? It is the windigoes’ fault that there was such a long and harsh winter. And the snow was making the nations argue more, therefore giving the windigoes more power.

Giving your citizens amateurishly simple clothes in the unforgiving cold can only help your citizens survive for so long.
 
If he wasn’t an asshole, he was at least very short sighted.

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
They must have been his personal tailors then, they common folk must have had more cheap tailors that they could use, or they just made their own clothes.

@CottonTales
 
Exactly! That’s what I mean.
 
He was giving those ponies a job to do and money to get food with. He was a humanitarian (ponitarian?) and a socialite, he deserves a place in the history books along side the greatest of leaders.

Why would there need to be tailors for making fancy ass hats when they could be making more fine clothes for the poorer classes. It’s lose-lose for the citizens either way.

@Zombie  
are you suggesting the tailors were going to find a way to end the food shortage

I never said the others weren’t.
 
Okay. Say his hat wasn’t consisted of food. It was a pretty elaborate design for head-ware that must’ve took some time and effort. Time and effort that could’ve been used for finding ways to end the food shortage.
 
(this is definitely the oddest “argument” I’ve ever had. lol)

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
The other nations were to be blamed for the food shortage, the unicorns and pegasi couldn’t make food if their lives depended on it. They were the tyrants of that day and age, not Puddinghead.
 
And furthermore, that hat wasn’t made of food, that’s just idiotic to think that.

I’m not getting metaphysical.
 
He was a terrible leader because despite his people starving, he had the audacity to wear a freakin hat of various foods.
 
He should’ve been declared a tyrant for his rule.

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
Define reality, I say it’s an illusion that we each create to find security in the world.
 
Your illusion is wrong, mine is good. Chancellor Puddinghead was elected to his position by the citizens of the earth pony nation. He was a respected official of his time and led his nation to an era of prosperity.
 
How can you say that his knowledge is not to be trusted when he was such an influential leader of his time.

Cookies have existed far longer than cake.
 
Besides, Puddinghead was a borderline nutjob whose grip on reality was minimal at best.

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
Chancellor Puddinghead once said “Where there is cake, there is pie!”
 
There was cake back then, so there has been cake for many a millenia.
 
And what about your precious cookies? I’ve never read the chancellor talking about them in any manuscripts.

Open your eyes!
 
Cake has only been invented for so long.
 
Celestia has been much older than cake.
 
She was never that chubby until she had cake.
 
The proof is in the pudding!

@Zombie_Trotsky
 
That is just nonbeliever heretic lies.
 
All hail the pudgy one!

Pinkie, your religion is a sham.
 
Cakelestia is just Celestia during her annual depressions.

Sorry, but I follow the teachings of the great and pudgy cakelestia.

@Princess♠Molestia
 
Lol.

@Zombie
 
Yes. They are known as the Keebler elves.